Cash in hand? Social welfare

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:03PM #1

So I've been working a cash in hand job since late last year (silly I know)
I'm leaving next week for personal reasons.
How do I go about claiming job seekers allowance until I find a new job?
I don't want to hang my employer by them not paying tax for me as it's only a few hours a week I do for a low income.
I last paid tax, last September 2017.
Any help would be great!
Thanks in advance

colm_mcm · 18-06-2018 10:05PM

Are you on benefits as it stands?

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:07PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Are you on benefits as it stands?

No I have not claimed social welfare in a number of years.
The only income I have is my cash in hand job since last year

Hitman3000 · 18-06-2018 10:19PM

Sconkjs wrote:

No I have not claimed social welfare in a number of years. The only income I have is my cash in hand job since last year

You might have to answer some very awkward questions to both SW and Revenue.

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:24PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You might have to answer some very awkward questions to both SW and Revenue.

That's what in trying to avoid!
At the time I didn't think about it but now I regret taking the cash in hand job!
I do only earn €200 per week so it's not that I'm avoiding massive tax or anything like that.

whippet · 18-06-2018 10:26PM

Sconkjs wrote: »

That's what in trying to avoid!
At the time I didn't think about it but now I regret taking the cash in hand job!
I do only earn €200 per week so it's not that I'm avoiding massive tax or anything like that.

Your employer is ..

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:29PM

whippet wrote: »

Your employer is ..

I know.. it's just part time child minding that I am doing.
But I'm leaving next week and don't want to mess up things for the family, as we do get on great and don't want any bitterness

Conservatory · 18-06-2018 10:33PM

Tell them you had a few quid saved under your mattress so didn’t need social welfare. They will try say they are refusing you but won’t in the end.

In the building trade I’ve known loads of ****es who have left lads in trouble by not even telling them they weren’t paying their tax or telling them they can have a job if they claim there Labour and work for 200 euro a week cheaper.

Some people have no other option but to accept this and end up the ones in trouble. There is no appetite for the government to stop this though.

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:36PM

Conservatory wrote: »

Tell them you had a few quid saved under your mattress so didn’t need social welfare. They will try say they are refusing you but won’t in the end.

In the building trade I’ve known loads of ****es who have left lads in trouble by not even telling them they weren’t paying their tax or telling them they can have a job if they claim there Kanpur and work for 200 euro a week cheaper.

Some people have no other option but to accept this and end up the ones in trouble. There is no appetite for the government to stop this though.

That's actually something I never even thought of!
Thanks very much for that. Will defo try it!

mickuhaha · 18-06-2018 10:37PM

Employee is responsible for making sure they register there employment. Also responsible for making sure there employers are paying correct amounts of tax for employees. Found this out the hard way.

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:39PM

mickuhaha wrote: »

Employee is responsible for making sure they register there employment. Also responsible for making sure there employers are paying correct amounts of tax for employees. Found this out the hard way.

How did you find this out or how did you go about fixing it if you were in a similar situation to me? If you don't mind me asking

BorneTobyWilde · 18-06-2018 10:46PM

I thought you could earn so much tax free

Sconkjs · 18-06-2018 10:49PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought you could earn so much tax free

I think so too? But I'm not 100% sure?
I work 18 hours and earn €200 a week

Tigger · 18-06-2018 10:52PM

Op go to the citizens information office

beechwood55 · 18-06-2018 10:52PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought you could earn so much tax free

You can. But you need to have told Revenue about it.

mickuhaha · 18-06-2018 10:52PM

Sconkjs wrote: »

How did you find this out or how did you go about fixing it if you were in a similar situation to me? If you don't mind me asking[/quote

Was trying to get stuff sorted for new job. Went into revenue to find the problem. Revenue said I was not registered as working. Gave out to me a bit . Told me i am responsible. Got me to get my former employers details. Went back to my employer got his details. Gave them to revenue. He gave me false pay details ( never matched my pay) . Gave them to revenue. Revenue got a copy off him. All sorted. I went back in to submit The p45 for new employer and they said if I thought the figures were wrong I could open a case and they would contact my former employer. Never changed anything. Great system. Just remember keep your payslips for ever and make sure they match your p60 every year.

mickuhaha · 18-06-2018 11:00PM

Sole trader can earn a small amount without any vat number but still must do books and tell revenue. It would also affect your pay as an employee . If you do both together.

dartboardio · 18-06-2018 11:03PM

Used to do a good bit of cash in hand work myself. Caught up with me in the end, not in terms of the social welfare but worked for a small business for 2 years, thought ah great cash in hand handy out, until I left and realised I was due no holiday pay, sick leave etc. boss started going on the books about a year in and then when I left tried to claim I was only working for him for 3 months legally, so got €50 holiday pay after 2 years!

Safe to say I’ll be sticking with legit through the book companies from now on

CobraClan · 18-06-2018 11:22PM

If I was in your shoes Id try and get a job before I finish the one your in, there is loads of work out there these days you just have to put in a real effort into getting one! The social welfare is going to want to know what you've being doing all along, their going to want to know what you have being living off, they will want documents like your p45 even if you haven't being paying tax! If you live with your parents you can say you've been living off them in which they'll want to know your parents means as well.

Fann Linn · 18-06-2018 11:24PM

Juat say you're back from the US or Canada.

Squatter · 19-06-2018 04:52PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Juat say you're back from the US or Canada.

And then you'll have to satisfy the Habitual Residence Condition!

SW aren't stupid you know!

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