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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »Great then if you understand he situation faced by millennials compared to how relatively easy house buying, job stability and retirement prospects were for previous generations. Is it any wonder that some young people enjoy a message that included dealing with young people's issues?
Most ole lads I know were in the building game, were dockers or were taxi drivers. They didn't enjoy job stabiility, many of them spent the 80s in England and retirement was going on job seekers, disability or the widowers pension until they got the actual state pension.
they reckon we have it easy in comparison
I reckon you don't really understand the situation tbh but you swallow the populist horsesh1t happily enough
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »Great then if you understand he situation faced by millennials compared to how relatively easy house buying, job stability and retirement prospects were for previous generations. Is it any wonder that some young people enjoy a message that included dealing with young people's issues?
Most ole lads I know were in the building game, were dockers or were taxi drivers. They didn't enjoy job stabiility, many of them spent the 80s in England and retirement was going on job seekers, disability or the widowers pension until they got the actual state pension.
they reckon we have it easy in comparison
I reckon you don't really understand the situation tbh but you swallow the populist horsesh1t happily enough
One minute you're a self employed in pensions and know all about the stats re likelihood of home ownership, job stability and retirement prospects for millennials Vs older generations. Then the only old people you know are dockers and hod carriers and the stats are gone out the window. Lol. I can't make you be honest about young people's chances of one ownership etc Vs older generations.0 -
El_Duderino 09 wrote: »One minute you're a self employed in pensions and know all about the stats re likelihood of home ownership, job stability and retirement prospects for millennials Vs older generations. Then the only old people you know are dockers and hod carriers and the stats are gone out the window. Lol. I can't make you be honest about young people's chances of one ownership etc Vs older generations.
What stats, lash them down for us all to see
I never said I was self employed in pensions btw.
Referring to builders and taxi drivers as "hod carriers " is rather derogatory don't you think?
I also said most, not only, as 3rd level education wasn't really common back in the 60s and 70s one is bound to know way more folk who worked as tradesmen or in unskilled manual labour than professionals in the 60/70 year old category nowadays.
Fairly poor comeback there to be honest, I didn't expect better though. Scratch the surface with any BB fanboys and there's very little there usually.0 -
El_Duderino 09 wrote: »One minute you're a self employed in pensions and know all about the stats re likelihood of home ownership, job stability and retirement prospects for millennials Vs older generations. Then the only old people you know are dockers and hod carriers and the stats are gone out the window. Lol. I can't make you be honest about young people's chances of one ownership etc Vs older generations.
What stats, lash them down for us all to see
I never said I was self employed in pensions btw.
Referring to builders and taxi drivers as "hod carriers " is rather derogatory don't you think?
I also said most, not only, as 3rd level education wasn't really common back in the 60s and 70s one is bound to know way more folk who worked as tradesmen or in unskilled manual labour than professionals in the 60/70 year old category nowadays.
Fairly poor comeback there to be honest, I didn't expect better though. Scratch the surface with any BB fanboys and there's very little there usually.
Grand. You said you were self employed and know. Bout pensions. In which case you must know about the differences between now and previous generations prospects.
So here’s a very recent research by the. UK IFC which outlines some of the differences between old folks likelihood of home ownership compared to older generations. Given the eve increasing lifespan and growing costs of end of life care, I think it’s high time we have a national discussion about this topic.
The healthcare system is under fierce financial pressure and if can’t continue to exist if costs keep escalating.
If someone says they want to live as long as possible, no matter how painful their end of life, then I think we should honour that wish. I’ll happily pay tax to help pay for that if that’s what they want. But I think people should have the choice to slip away before their quality of life deteriorates
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/10505
It compares young people under 27 with middle incomes adjusted for inflation etc.
Houses were 150% higher in 2016 than 1996. While incomes for those people have grown only 22% in the same time.
Regional house price to income ratio is much higher for young people than it was 20 years ago making house ownership much less likely.
Home ownership is 33% now compared to 43% 15 years earlier.
Have a read yourself. The numbers are from the uk but the same phenomenon is happening in Ireland.0 -
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »One minute you're a self employed in pensions and know all about the stats re likelihood of home ownership, job stability and retirement prospects for millennials Vs older generations. Then the only old people you know are dockers and hod carriers and the stats are gone out the window. Lol. I can't make you be honest about young people's chances of one ownership etc Vs older generations.
What stats, lash them down for us all to see
I never said I was self employed in pensions btw.
Referring to builders and taxi drivers as "hod carriers " is rather derogatory don't you think?
I also said most, not only, as 3rd level education wasn't really common back in the 60s and 70s one is bound to know way more folk who worked as tradesmen or in unskilled manual labour than professionals in the 60/70 year old category nowadays.
Fairly poor comeback there to be honest, I didn't expect better though. Scratch the surface with any BB fanboys and there's very little there usually.
Grand. You said you were self employed and know know about pensions. In which case you must know about the differences between now and previous generations prospects.
So here’s a very recent research by the UK IFC which outlines some of the differences between young people’s likelihood of home ownership compared to older generations.
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/10505
It compares young people under 27 with middle incomes adjusted for inflation etc.
Houses were 150% higher in 2016 than 1996. While incomes for those people have grown only 22% in the same time.
Regional house price to income ratio is much higher for young people than it was 20 years ago making house ownership much less likely.
Home ownership is 33% now compared to 43% 15 years earlier.
Have a read yourself. The numbers are from the uk but the same phenomenon is happening in Ireland.
So now that you know, what was your point anyway?1 -
El_Duderino 09 wrote: ».................
So now that you know, what was your point anyway?
My point was...........................
He went on a rant once on the Late Late iirc it was on how NONE of his peers or friends in his age group could ever hope to buy a house or have bought a house. Like, FFS, that's complete and utter crap. But loads of folk lapp it up, hence he comes out with it.
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He was talking about the lads in Limerick, as he's a well educated chap I reckon lots of his peers did the ole LC etc and have bought property but that woildn't suit the populist horsesh1t lapper uppers so he tells fibs to get likes 0 -
El_Duderino 09 wrote: ».................
So now that you know, what was your point anyway?
My point was...........................
He went on a rant once on the Late Late iirc it was on how NONE of his peers or friends in his age group could ever hope to buy a house or have bought a house. Like, FFS, that's complete and utter crap. But loads of folk lapp it up, hence he comes out with it.
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He was talking about the lads in Limerick, as he's a well educated chap I reckon lots of his peers did the ole LC etc and have bought property but that woildn't suit the populist horsesh1t lapper uppers so he tells fibs to get likes
So he exaggerated the fact that young people today are less likely to be able to buy a house than older generations. The fact that wages are falling relative to house prices and young people today will expect to be less wealthy, work less secure jobs, work later into life before retiring and have a much reduced pension. You’d be waiting for the older generations to bring it up. You also be waiting for the politicians to address it - even if those politicians are wearing suits which are oh so impressive to some.
He exaggerated the point but at least he talked about it. Old folk don’t care about that type of thing because it doesn’t affect them.1 -
My point was...........................
He went on a rant once on the Late Late iirc it was on how NONE of his peers or friends in his age group could ever hope to buy a house or have bought a house. Like, FFS, that's complete and utter crap. But loads of folk lapp it up, hence he comes out with it.
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He was talking about the lads in Limerick, as he's a well educated chap I reckon lots of his peers did the ole LC etc and have bought property but that woildn't suit the populist horsesh1t lapper uppers so he tells fibs to get likes
I looked up the ll show to see what he actually said. You didn’t recall correctly. He didn’t say all his friends can’t afford houses. He was asked which generation he’s from and he described his generation. He said he’s from the generation who can’t afford to buy houses. Can’t afford to have children. The generation who’s either leaving the country or jumping in rivers.
Look it up. Given that it’s describing a generation, it’s actually a fair description. I haven’t thrown myself into a river but the other 3 apply to me.
So you call it populist horsesh1te, but it’s actually a fair description of me. So if he stands or falls by the accuracy of his speech, then he’s on the money with that particle statement.
You brought it up as an example of the populist horsesh1t BB talks. And it turned out you misquoted him and he was actually right in what he said. Poor example for you to use, eh?0 -
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »I looked up the ll show to see what he actually said. You didn’t recall correctly. He didn’t say all his friends can’t afford houses. He was asked which generation he’s from and he described his generation. He said he’s from the generation who can’t afford to buy houses. Can’t afford to have children. The generation who’s either leaving the country or jumping in rivers.
Look it up. Given that it’s describing a generation, it’s actually a fair description. I haven’t thrown myself into a river but the other 3 apply to me.
So you call it populist horsesh1te, but it’s actually a fair description of me. So if he stands or falls by the accuracy of his speech, then he’s on the money with that particle statement.
You brought it up as an example of the populist horsesh1t BB talks. And it turned out you misquoted him and he was actually right in what he said. Poor example for you to use, eh?
He specifically said none of his friends or peers have or can buy. If you went to the trouble if looking it up you could at least watch the fncking thing properly.
I looked at this clip.
https://youtu.be/2v1kuaWCj1U
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
You reckon he only spoke for two minutes? The personal speel on his friends & peers struggles was before the infamous / load of w@nk "my generation" speel.
To be fair there's another of his die hard fans about who claims to know him & he alleged that none of his friends/peers could but a house. Horsesh1t but at least not refuting he said it
In that segment he couldn't or wouldn't actually say what generation he was on about...just fookers with limited cash
I'm in his generation.... worked through the recession, paid my bills.... the fooker thinks the likes of me (the majority) don't exist.0 -
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