Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

cjt156 · 05-06-2018 02:10PM

benjamin d wrote: »

No fault of the pedestrian there.

Are you sure about that?

You're right about the cyclist not indicating, but the phone numpty stepped out onto a roadway without looking.

Blanchy90 · 05-06-2018 02:13PM

I saw 4 cyclists nearly get left hooked by an audi turning off Dorset street today, the bikes were in a line going up the left when the filter light came on and the driver went without looking, luckily the bikes were going slowly and stopped in time.

The driver was completely oblivious

benjamin d · 05-06-2018 02:26PM

cjt156 wrote: »

Are you sure about that?

You're right about the cyclist not indicating, but the phone numpty stepped out onto a roadway without looking.

Yep, there was a woman right in front of him already crossing from the other side so vehicles already had no right to pass. Once he steps in the roadway he has absolute right of way as well. You may rightly use the argument that there's no point being right and dead but it doesn't change the fact that the onus was on the cyclist to anticipate pedestrian movements and plan accordingly.

RebelButtMunch · 05-06-2018 02:41PM

p15574 wrote: »

I tried the commuter route outbound through Rathmines the other evening - never again, too full (though good to see the popularity of cycling) and too many 'leisurely' cyclists. Not helped, though, when one of them decides to just jam on the brakes without any warning in the middle of the cycle lane because they've changed their mind about the route to take...

Just like driving a car
1. You're too close if you run into the back of someone
2. I'd rather 'sunday drivers' drove slowly, what's the alternative? They drive fast?

As daily cyclists we can't have it both ways, we can't be encouraging people to cycle but only if they do it as fast as us.

xckjoo · 05-06-2018 04:06PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FamilyByCycle/status/1003394102543732736

In a similar vain, I'd like to thank the guy in the dump truck who gave me ample space this morning. Could hear him behind while still a few hundred metres from the junction but he just chilled out and matched my speed. I went right, he went straight on and all was well with the world. He even made the green light at the junction

site_owner · 05-06-2018 06:07PM

sy_flembeck wrote: »

Just north of Ashford this morning in what was an otherwise enjoyable spin. Clown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmFI-opbQw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57oKowkTt8

The videos aren't working for me

RobertFoster · 05-06-2018 06:26PM

I was nearly involved in two* head-on collisions today. The first as I was climbing past Massy's Estate / Hell Fire Club. A car was parked on the other side of the road, and a cyclist had just overtaken it. Another car coming downhill decided to overtake the parked car and squeeze between me and the cyclist to overtake him too. Straddling a solid white line and close passing two cyclists heading in opposite directions at the one time is some feat. Gave the driver a friendly wave, though we could have shook hands we were so close.

The second was leaving Lucan, just before reaching St. Catherine's Park. Three or four cars travelling close together towards Lucan weren't moving fast enough for a guy on a motorbike who decided to overtake them all before the roundabout. He was close enough for me to see his eyes widen when he realised I was there, changing his line at the last second. I let a roar at him as he scared the **** out of me.

* Just remembered a third incident, though not as close as the other two. A car decided to overtake a number of vehicles heading north on the R135 between Ward Cross and Coolquay. I was heading south, though luckily in the hard shoulder. Still gave him a friendly wave to let him know I exist.

Rechuchote · 05-06-2018 09:44PM

The shorts man and the cyclist - this is a time when a tinkle on the bell is useful, as is entering a junction at a speed where you don't have to screech to a halt.

P_1 · 05-06-2018 11:59PM

Ok after a stiff whiskey I've just about calmed down from this.

Out for dinner with friends this evening. Cycling home and on West Road and I see a car suddenly overtake the car ahead of it and speed up and literally bomb down the wrong side of the road. I literally jump up on the kerb and give a wtf expression. Next thing he slammes on the brakes and flings the door open and starts roaring abuse at me. He was coked off his head. I'm convinced he was speeding from some failed gangland hit.

Lesson learned I guess is to calm down my wtf reactions. I just froze on the spot. I'm sure if I had of reacted at that point he would have pulled a gun on me.

This city is fúcked up

magicbastarder · 06-06-2018 01:55AM

i know it's against the gist of the thread, but while driving and entering a roundabout in the left lane (to proceed straight on), it's rather *ahem* bracing when you realise the guy in the artic on your right has decided to take the exit on your left.

What Username Guidelines · 06-06-2018 07:24AM

Got a reply by post today from Dublin bus about the near miss I posted a video of last week. It follows the usual template but my favourite part was:

“Let me apologise to you on behalf of Dublin bus for the poor customer service you experienced whilst using our service”

Lambay island · 06-06-2018 08:48AM

On my way home yesterday evening minding my own business. I think i may have mentioned on this thread before but Ive almost become indifferent to all sorts on the road now as in I try hard not to get worked up as it was doing me no good.

Anyway not a near miss, but I spotted bout 50 yards ahead a car parked on path and door opening right into cycle lane. There was 2 lanes of traffic outside of this with cars moving in both. As I got closer she was still getting out of car with door wide open so i was doing constant shoulder checks to get out to nearest lane. Fair play to one driver who had spotted this and held back and let me out to get past. As i was tucking back in, the young woman shouts at me " I have to able to get out of my car Like FFS" in a lovely d4 accent. I had not said anything to her and didnt even glance at her but she was instantly in defence mode. I simply looked at her and gave a wry smile as didn't want to waste energy on her, as felt she purposely left door open longer to try and instigate confrontation.

Ray Bloody Purchase · 06-06-2018 08:54AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Got a reply by post today from Dublin bus about the near miss I posted a video of last week. It follows the usual template but my favourite part was:

“Let me apologise to you on behalf of Dublin bus for the poor customer service you experienced whilst using our service”

I didn't know being plastered up against the side of a bus was known as 'using our service.'

I better start paying fares now. :mad:

sy_flembeck · 06-06-2018 09:01AM

Tried yesterday but the videos wouldn't work.

Yesterday morning the only blot on a very enjoyable spin in north wicklow. Encountered this beaut as I entered as one lane roundabout just north of Ashford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57oKowkTt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmFI-opbQw

check_six · 06-06-2018 09:02AM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

I didn't know being plastered up against the side of a bus was known as 'using our service.'

I better start paying fares now. :mad:

The bus may have passed close enough to tag on the Leap card!

amcalester · 07-06-2018 08:41AM

I love roundabouts.

Approached a roundabout this morning to take third exit. Arm out as I entered the roundabout, cars at first exit stopped and just as I was about to signal (after I had passed the second exit) to take my exit the car that had been stopped waiting to enter at the second entrance decided that was his moment to go and pulled out very very slowly in front of me, he seemed to stop and start twice before finally stopping half in and half off the roundabout.

Internet Friend · 07-06-2018 09:27AM

Travelling along here this morning, there's no way anyone can see around the bend cause of the ditch so no way of telling if there's approaching traffic. I hear a jeep gun it from a good distance back and knew he was going for it. Next thing a car comes around the corner heading the opposite way, just as I'm in the bend and just as the jeep meets me. Talking cm's here, he was doing about 80km/h and turns out they had a wide flat bed trailer too. Didn't scare me as I'd anticipated it but if I'd a chance to confront him I would have lost the plot completely.

Looking up cameras now...sick of this sh!t.

Vel · 07-06-2018 09:48AM

This bloody junction at the top of Camden Street, opposite the Bleeding Horse. Well I don't blame the junction, I blame the drivers.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/24+Camden+Street+Upper,+Saint+Kevin's,+Dublin/@53.3337284,-6.2650266,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO4hwdvVeBRPB4GLvVR7ZhQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48670ea00e48ea43:0x18f4b338b48a49ab!8m2!3d53.3335335!4d-6.2648479

Once you go through this junction it splits into 4 lanes, two going left towards Harcourt Street and two going right, around by the Odeon beside the luas tracks. I take the outside right lane as once I continue on past the Odeon I am going left up towards Charlemont.

Usually the lights are red when I approach them so I get myself in front of the traffic and indicate that I am going right as I take off. I pop myself in the lane and pretty much 9 times out of 10 the car behind me, instead of waiting behind me (and generally we are just heading up to a set of red lights) will undertake me at speed and closely. I've lost count of the amount of times it happens.

I generally ignore now as any time I've tried to engage it's been pointless. I had one woman just drift in towards me slowly one day, on purpose as I was 'in the wrong lane' apparently. The car behind her beeped as she was so close to hitting me and checked I was ok after. I can't lie, she had her window down and I stuck my head in and roared at her, froathing at the mouth I was so shook!

Oh and of the cars that do this, a big proportion have been our 'professional' taxi drivers!

accensi0n · 07-06-2018 10:41AM

It would probably improve things if the lane markings started further back.

check_six · 07-06-2018 11:40AM

amcalester wrote: »

I love roundabouts.

Approached a roundabout this morning to take third exit. Arm out as I entered the roundabout, cars at first exit stopped and just as I was about to signal (after I had passed the second exit) to take my exit the car that had been stopped waiting to enter at the second entrance decided that was his moment to go and pulled out very very slowly in front of me, he seemed to stop and start twice before finally stopping half in and half off the roundabout.

Hate this kind of thing. You're incredibly vulnerable when you are circulating past the entrances to a roundabout. If the motorist at the next entrance is not stopped you have to slow to make sure that they are going to stop. If they start to creep forward you have to slow even more and eventually you end up nearly at a standstill staring in at these eejits to see if they have worked out what their mistake is.

Had a dude yesterday who was stopped but started accelerating onto the roundabout before I had cleared his entrance. Very unnerving as you can't tell if they are able to judge it "just right", or haven't a clue what they are doing.

hesker · 07-06-2018 01:13PM

check_six wrote: »

Hate this kind of thing. You're incredibly vulnerable when you are circulating past the entrances to a roundabout. If the motorist at the next entrance is not stopped you have to slow to make sure that they are going to stop. If they start to creep forward you have to slow even more and eventually you end up nearly at a standstill staring in at these eejits to see if they have worked out what their mistake is.

Had a dude yesterday who was stopped but started accelerating onto the roundabout before I had cleared his entrance. Very unnerving as you can't tell if they are able to judge it "just right", or haven't a clue what they are doing.

+1

Do you recall the thread last year by the female driver complaining about a cyclist on a roundabout intimidating her by staring at her as she continued to not stop on approaching and entering across him. The mind boggles

PaulieC · 07-06-2018 01:21PM

I was driving north across the east-link at the weekend, a woman on a bike in front of us. There was an artic truck coming in the opposite direction, from the port, and he entered the roundabout indicating to turn on the quay. The woman in front of us proceeded onto the roundabout, heading northwards. She held her arm out to the truck to stop him, even though she was completely in the wrong when she entered the roundabout. I was full sure he was going to hit her, but he slammed on and stopped just in time. Lucky woman.

average_runner · 07-06-2018 01:59PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

i know it's against the gist of the thread, but while driving and entering a roundabout in the left lane (to proceed straight on), it's rather *ahem* bracing when you realise the guy in the artic on your right has decided to take the exit on your left.

This is all too common. Its amazing the number of people that use roundabouts don't know how to use them, indicate(car) or even signal when on a bike!!

check_six · 07-06-2018 02:23PM

hesker wrote: »

+1

Do you recall the thread last year by the female driver complaining about a cyclist on a roundabout intimidating her by staring at her as she continued to not stop on approaching and entering across him. The mind boggles

Sounds bonkers. I've prepared a stunned look of incomprehension just in case someone is able to send me a link to this thread.

average_runner wrote: »

This is all too common. Its amazing the number of people that use roundabouts don't know how to use them, indicate(car) or even signal when on a bike!!

Have a look at the roundabout threads that appear from time to time on boards. They're kind of disturbing in that there is no kind of consensus on the correct way to navigate a roundabout.
It's all about individual interpretation!

Slightly unpredictable road design doesn't help either it has to be said.

magicbastarder · 07-06-2018 02:26PM

i think it came up on the commuting and transport forum that the legislation governing roundabouts is rather thin - i think they're mentioned twice in the road traffic acts?

Rechuchote · 07-06-2018 07:57PM

Cycling through Cork and Tipp yesterday I was amazed by two things - the beeyoootiful roads - perfect surfaces, not a bump or a pothole to be seen - and the courtesy of ordinary drivers.

The same, unfortunately, wasn't true of truckers, either in artics or in builders' lorries, who went booting along through the countryside as if they were alone on the roads, and gave perhaps two metres space to pass, which sounds like a lot but is not a lot when the vehicle is so big.

Same with the tractors towing slurry tanks - the speed of the things - utterly terrifying. Both on main roads and on little country lanes.

Type 17 · 07-06-2018 08:16PM

PaulieC wrote: »

...The woman in front of us proceeded onto the roundabout, heading northwards. She held her arm out to the truck to stop him, even though she was completely in the wrong when she entered the roundabout. I was full sure he was going to hit her, but he slammed on and stopped just in time. Lucky woman.

The "magic wand" theory* in action :pac:

*"My arm is a magic wand that suspends the laws of physics and gives me right of way over all other traffic".

sy_flembeck · 09-06-2018 03:12PM

Always expect the unexpected. It did give me 1.5m I suppose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VMRgRSFwQ0

site_owner · 09-06-2018 09:45PM

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10211768370027592&id=1319113564

site_owner · 09-06-2018 09:47PM

Hope the Facebook link is ok, it's public and on most of the cycling groups now

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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