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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    The way the right wing mind works is fascinating.

    With this guy! when someone says something about islam there right and ignorant. Someone is ignorant for saying women should have more rights in Islam along with gays,transgender and jews. But we should all keep our mouths shut because we are attacking there culture. Did anyone know this case was happening until Tommy brought it to light everyone does now. Cliff Richard had the BBC filming while police raided his house. But lets keep rotterdam grooming trial all hush hush because we wouldn't want to offend. Maybe he was sick and tired of all the secrecy and non reporting of this case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Someone is ignorant for saying women should have more rights in Islam along with gays,transgender and jews.


    Where has anyone on this forum said anything remotely similar to that. Post your source there lad.

    But we should all keep our mouths shut because we are attacking there culture.


    Same as above. Post your source for that.


    Did anyone know this case was happening until Tommy brought it to light everyone does now.


    And what benefit is that? Sure the trial could be wrecked but at least everyone knows it was on. Why not just wait til it was over and then report on it? Or simply stick to facts about it?


    Cliff Richard had the BBC filming while police raided his house.


    Are you saying that was right?

    But lets keep rotterdam grooming trial all hush hush because we wouldn't want to offend.


    Because we want to ensure the trial is conducted properly and without interference. ****, how hard is this to comprehend?


    Maybe he was sick and tired of all the secrecy and non reporting of this case.


    Well that's just tough ****. You don't get to break the law because you are sick and tired of it's limitations. If you do you deal with the consequences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    Good enough for the kunt. Tommy Robinson is a fukking cockroache and can't wait till antifa get their paws on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Good enough for the kunt. Tommy Robinson is a fukking cockroache and can't wait till antifa get their paws on him.


    Antifa, the opposite side of the Robinson coin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    My issue is with judging people based on their ethnic or cultural background. That's the part I find ignorant.

    In the UK muslims who are 5% of the general population comprise 30% of the prison population. Most are in for acid attacks, domestic violence and sexual assault.

    In Ireland, Travellers who comprise 2% of the population are about 15% of the general prison population and 80% of males over 20 have a criminal record.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    He really did not deserve to be jailed this time. He talks a lot of sense, it is just a pity that he does not sound articulate or well educated and his followers and those who protested his arrest were common thugs displaying hooligan behaviour. The actions of the people who follow him discredit anything he says, which is a pity.
    The police are definitely bullying him to the point of menace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,180 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    In the UK muslims who are 5% of the general population comprise 30% of the prison population. Most are in for acid attacks, domestic violence and sexual assault.

    Got figures for that? I can't find anything that says they account for 30% of the prison population or what they're in for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,180 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    annascott wrote: »
    He really did not deserve to be jailed this time. He talks a lot of sense, it is just a pity that he does not sound articulate or well educated and his followers and those who protested his arrest were common thugs displaying hooligan behaviour. The actions of the people who follow him discredit anything he says, which is a pity.
    The police are definitely bullying him to the point of menace.

    He did the same thing last year and was given a suspended sentence. He was specifically warned that if he did it again he'd go to jail. He knowingly broke the law, whilst streaming himself live on the internet, outside a fecking courthouse.

    He deserved to go to jail.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Good enough for the kunt. Tommy Robinson is a fukking cockroache and can't wait till antifa get their paws on him.



    Its been done already, shameful performance really. antifa are a bunch of bums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    At the end of the day he’s in Contempt of Court having knowingly disobeyed a press embargo which could have seriously impacted the trial and not in a good way. What did he expect?

    Even if your motivations are good and right you can’t expect to break the law and be rewarded.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    In the UK muslims who are 5% of the general population comprise 30% of the prison population. Most are in for acid attacks, domestic violence and sexual assault.

    In Ireland, Travellers who comprise 2% of the population are about 15% of the general prison population and 80% of males over 20 have a criminal record.


    And?


    annascott wrote: »
    He really did not deserve to be jailed this time.


    He was given a chance the last time. Why should he have been given another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭AfterLife


    thebull85 wrote: »


    Its been done already, shameful performance really. antifa are a bunch of bums.

    What's good for the for the goose...


  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AfterLife wrote:
    What's good for the for the goose...

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »


    Its been done already, shameful performance really. antifa are a bunch of bums.


    They are not much different to Robinson and his ilk. They just have a different cause. They should be in jail beside him.



    It is interesting you post that video because it demonstrates the complete liar he is. He states in his commentary that the police refused to take it any further but in the video he says clearly "No, there's been no allegation. That's not how I handle things." Complete contradiction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    And?

    Dont you think that is an unusually high rate of incidence? These are a criminal class where the muslim society and traveller society share many similarities. You have males with low IQs, Intermarrying of cousins and are prone to violence.

    When they arrive, they bring their culture and feuds with them. Why do we have to put up with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Dont you think that is an unusually high rate of incidence? These are a criminal class where the muslim society and traveller society share many similarities. You have males with low IQs, Intermarrying of cousins and are prone to violence.

    When they arrive, they bring their culture and feuds with them. Why do we have to put up with them?


    I do think it's high but I don't think it justifies a universal ban on Muslims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Do you think it is a "little" high or "very" high? Do you work in insurance ...... ? Guess not. That is an astronomic number as a percentage. Just you wait until they get to the second generation. Once they work out they have problems fitting in they become very aggressive.

    Before you counter it with the old chestnut about all the Irish in Britain, My father was in England from '58 to '73 and It would have motivated the Irish government to find a solution to Northern Ireland much faster if there had been a travel ban on Irish citizens. The difference between Post WW2 Britain and Post Celtic Tiger Ireland is we dont migrant workers or migrant that will never be financially independent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Do you think it is a "little" high or "very" high? Do you work in insurance ...... ? Guess not. That is an astronomic number as a percentage. Just you wait until they get to the second generation. Once they work out they have problems fitting in they become very aggressive.

    Before you counter it with the old chestnut about all the Irish in Britain, My father was in England from '58 to '73 and It would have motivated the Irish government to find a solution to Northern Ireland much faster if there had been a travel ban on Irish citizens. The difference between Post WW2 Britain and Post Celtic Tiger Ireland is we dont migrant workers or migrant that will never be financially independent


    I fully understand your logic, I just find it abhorrent. Not sure if you are getting that distinction.

    Edit: This might help you understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,135 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Do you think it is a "little" high or "very" high? Do you work in insurance ...... ? Guess not. That is an astronomic number as a percentage. Just you wait until they get to the second generation. Once they work out they have problems fitting in they become very aggressive.

    Before you counter it with the old chestnut about all the Irish in Britain, My father was in England from '58 to '73 and It would have motivated the Irish government to find a solution to Northern Ireland much faster if there had been a travel ban on Irish citizens. The difference between Post WW2 Britain and Post Celtic Tiger Ireland is we dont migrant workers or migrant that will never be financially independent


    Did you ever reveal the source of your figures? You claim they make up 30% of the prison population yet this article (based on figures produced for parliament) says 15%.



    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lammy-review-muslim-prisoners_uk_59afcaa0e4b0b5e531022f26?guccounter=1


    From your "fitting in" comment you seem to think the majority are migrants. Do you have anything to support that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    I fully understand your logic, I just find it abhorrent. Not sure if you are getting that distinction.

    Edit: This might help you understand.

    You find it abhorrent that I wish to protect my own nation and country from a crowd that will want to destroy it because they are under the illusion that our grandads invaded their grandads back and took them to America a few hundred years back?.

    I never said "Kill the Poor" its usually the poor working class natives that have to suffer in working class towns like Stafford, Telford and Rotherham. There are 55 no go zones in Sweden.

    I find it abhorrent but they bring no benefits to our society, they have no skills demand reparation (ie white privilege and diversity quotas) and the long term benefits seem to be them to be more likely to end up in the prison system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    You find it abhorrent that I wish to protect my own nation and country from a crowd that will want to destroy it because they are under the illusion that our grandads invaded their grandads back and took them to America a few hundred years back?.

    I never said "Kill the Poor" its usually the poor working class natives that have to suffer in working class towns like Stafford, Telford and Rotherham. There are 55 no go zones in Sweden.

    I find it abhorrent but they bring no benefits to our society, they have no skills demand reparation (ie white privilege and diversity quotas) and the long term benefits seem to be them to be more likely to end up in the prison system.


    No I find it abhorrent that you have no issue punishing or removing rights from people for the actions of others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    There are 55 no go zones in Sweden.

    This is a wind-up, isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Did you ever reveal the source of your figures? You claim they make up 30% of the prison population yet this article (based on figures produced for parliament) says 15%.

    From your "fitting in" comment you seem to think the majority are migrants. Do you have anything to support that?

    Actually it was Irish travellers that were 30% of the Irish prison Population (Prime time 15 years ago). I stand corrected, but it is still a staggering 300% more likely to end up in prison if you are more muslim.

    Well as for the "migrants", well most muslims are claiming to fleeing from muslim oppression and when they arrive where is the first place they head? Down to the mosque. I am not opposed to any man practicing his religion but if it is a security risk then we dont need it here. Notice all the countries that dont have muslim violence have a ban on these migrants? Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Poland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    This is a wind-up, isn't it?

    What do you think in the rape capital of Europe?


    What do you think Parallel Legal Structure means?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    No I find it abhorrent that you have no issue punishing or removing rights from people for the actions of others.

    whaooooo !!! I am not intent on removing those rights. IT is NOT a right to enter a country without declaring your intent or business and being able to support yourself and you will conform to our legal system other wise it is a takeover.

    Remember that time Jude Law and his buddies went to the Calais camp and they got a hiding, robbed and their mobile phones were taken off them? I am not intent on taking anyones rights away but defending Irish citizens rights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12f7NZeb6eY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,180 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    What do you think in the rape capital of Europe?


    What do you think Parallel Legal Structure means?

    There aren't no go zones in Sweden. This had been disproved so many times I'm getting sick of having to address it. The police there mentioned areas of heightened criminality or what the swedish police called "vunerable areas". Think Sheriff St or Corduff. It's areas where they need to have a greater presence. If you google it you'll even find some of the right wing guys who were talking about no go zones in europe heading to visit them and saying that they're actually ok.

    There are no no-go zones. ok. Just google it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,135 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Actually it was Irish travellers that were 30% of the Irish prison Population (Prime time 15 years ago). I stand corrected, but it is still a staggering 300% more likely to end up in prison if you are more muslim.


    So your number was both wrong, about a completely different group, and wildly out of date. That is impressive


    Well as for the "migrants", well most muslims are claiming to fleeing from muslim oppression and when they arrive where is the first place they head? Down to the mosque. I am not opposed to any man practicing his religion but if it is a security risk then we dont need it here. Notice all the countries that dont have muslim violence have a ban on these migrants? Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Poland?


    Most of those countries dont have colonial ties to muslim majority countries like india and pakistan so this is not in the least surprising. what percentage of the muslim prison population are comprised of migrants? Please note that somebody born in britain is not a migrant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Most of those countries dont have colonial ties to muslim majority countries like india and pakistan so this is not in the least surprising. what percentage of the muslim prison population are comprised of migrants? Please note that somebody born in britain is not a migrant.

    Its not the first generation that you need to worry about its the second generation. This is not something new some of the most vicious members of the INLA were 2nd Generation Irish born in the UK. The same thing is happening in both German and French Islamic Terrorist attacks.

    Nip it in the bud when it is young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,135 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Its not the first generation that you need to worry about its the second generation. This is not something new some of the most vicious members of the INLA were 2nd Generation Irish born in the UK. The same thing is happening in both German and French Islamic Terrorist attacks.

    Nip it in the bud when it is young.


    so why are you so worried about migrants?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious



    Nip it in the bud when it is young.


    So what is your plan for dealing with the travelers in Ireland and Muslims in the UK?


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