Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

'No' have only themselves to blame here, many of their figureheads were, in their conduct, the biggest assets 'Yes' could have asked for.

The failure of 'No' to engage in any realistic and pragmatic way with the societal realities in which they existed and operated for the last 3 decades made them less relevant with each passing day.

I said early in the week that I had become aware of 'No' side private internal polling that was giving Yes 68%, which I was dismissed for here and which I had a hard time believing myself, but which has borne out. The internal rancour and split in No, and scramble to propose an 11th hour compromise for 'hard cases' to try and regain some ground was as pathetic as it was disingenuous, and it finished off the campaign in the eyes of a very well informed and engaged electorate.

'No' will paint today as a 'sad state of affairs', but really they need to look at their own conduct, their own inflexibility, dogmatism and lack of political savvy. In many way, they were their own ondoing.

Annabella1 wrote: »

GP's have not been consulted on this
I suspect many won't touch this - Prescribing a medication to abort a healthy baby will be tdifficult
They are perfectly within their rights to insist on a UK type system which has a dating scan and is done in Specialist Clinics.
The Government want this done cheaply and out of sight

Don't they already prescribe the morning after pill? Not much difference really

McGuirk still mentioned, abortion at 24 weeks, this morning. This was never proposed. Still dealing in porkies. That would be, early delivery.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Over half of No voters (according to RTE’s exit poll) strongly disagreed with abortion between 12-24 weeks when there was a serious risk to the mother’s life.

That is just so depressing.
How can people feel like that about those they live among? I am, us women are, more than the contents of our wombs. We should be entitled to protection of our heath and best medical practice just like any man, child or pensioner is in this country.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Over half of No voters (according to RTE’s exit poll) strongly disagreed with abortion between 12-24 weeks when there was a serious risk to the mother’s life.

It'd be interesting to see the demographics of that crowd, but I would imagine they're predominately some combination of elderly, rural and/or Catholic.

Sure what does it matter if the woman dies? She's going to go to heaven anyway?

It's probably 150,000 odd people and most of them won't be here in 20 years time, so while it doesn't sound great, in absolute terms it's a dwindling number and not something we need to be overly concerned about.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Over half of No voters (according to RTE’s exit poll) strongly disagreed with abortion between 12-24 weeks when there was a serious risk to the mother’s life.

Despressing to think people like this walk among us.

Serious question, despite no legislation yet in place will the vote in the meantime give any more leeway to doctors in terms of being less afraid of being prosecuted for a marginal decision in a situation where the woman's life is potentially in danger?

Or is prosecution for getting it wrong and moving too early just as likely now?

And what impact will the new legislation have on the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act? Are they to live alongside each other or will the earlier act be incorporated in the new one and phase out?

Sorry for the dumb questions!

Is anyone else happy not only about the result, but because we won't have to endure any more abortion referendum campaigns?

Chatting about it with my wife after the polls closed, she was concerned that a No result could still happen. I reassured her that even if that was the case, and despite what was said about this being a once-in-a-generation poll, the momentum for change was too great, and there would be another chance to argue the case and vote on it...and shuddering at the prospect event as I said it.



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Katie Ascough on RTE saying the Yes side should be held accountable for what they said during the referendum.

Does she really think she'd come out of it well if both sides had to back up claims Made? Its a wonder her face doesn't turn inside out trying to keep it straight.

8-10 wrote: »

Serious question, despite no legislation yet in place will the vote in the meantime give any more leeway to doctors in terms of being less afraid of being prosecuted for a marginal decision in a situation where the woman's life is potentially in danger?

Or is prosecution for getting it wrong and moving too early just as likely now?

And what impact will the new legislation have on the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act? Are they to live alongside each other or will the earlier act be incorporated in the new one and phase out?

Sorry for the dumb questions!

My understanding is no it doesn't. There is kind of limbo period where the 8th amendment is gone but no legislation to allow terminations.

I was just in the local post office, and overheard some older women, one in her 60's and one late 50's talking. It's a small post office, I didn't have my headphones, so wasn't intentionally ear wigging.

They were mortified that the local priest at Mass last night told people,from the pulpit, that anyone who voted Yes were unwelcome for communion, and when it came time for communion, he asked them individually what way they voted, and refused them if they said Yes.

So Love Both, except if I disagree with you, then it's Damn Your Eternal Soul.