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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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  • #4292
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    FR appears to have recognised the 5 flights from IAD-DUB on GEY but none of the 5 flights DUB-IAD. Strange one.

    FR has similar issues with flights operated by EI-CJX


  • #4293
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    IAD
    Dep - Scheduled 12.30, Actual 12.56
    Arr - Scheduled 15.30, Actual 16.00


  • #4294
    joeysoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    FR have the departure as 13.27 so obviously they dropped the ball on this one.

    My friend arrived safe, and said they were about 30mins late alright.


  • #4295
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    joeysoap wrote: »
    FR have the departure as 13.27 so obviously they dropped the ball on this one.

    My friend arrived safe, and said they were about 30mins late alright.

    Around 30 mins taxi from stand to actual takeoff is about right.


  • #4296
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Around 30 mins taxi from stand to actual takeoff is about right.

    Normal day at Dublin so!!


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  • #4297
    kona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    joeysoap wrote: »
    FR have the departure as 13.27 so obviously they dropped the ball on this one.

    My friend arrived safe, and said they were about 30mins late alright.

    Their 13.27 gmt probably means 12.27 z


  • #4298
    Trampas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Had a brush with a building in sfo

    https://twitter.com/ivan_drawgo/status/999415491675357184?s=21


  • #4299
    alancostello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭alancostello


    http://abc7news.com/travel/plane-wing-hits-concrete-post-at-sfo-while-being-towed-to-gate/3513867/


    Local news article about it here. EI146, the return, still hasn't left. It was EI-GAJ, the second to newest A330-300 in the fleet.


  • #4300
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    joeysoap wrote: »
    FR have the departure as 13.27 so obviously they dropped the ball on this one.

    My friend arrived safe, and said they were about 30mins late alright.

    Bear in mind that airline timetables quote push back times on stand and arrival times on stand, while FR quotes take off times and landing times.

    They will never match as one includes taxi time at the two airports and the other doesn’t.


  • #4301
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    alancostello wrote: »
    Local news article about it here. EI146, the return, still hasn't left. It was EI-GAJ, the second to newest A330-300 in the fleet.
    EI146 was subsequently cancelled.

    http://thelingussource.com/


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  • #4302
    Bussywussy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Wasn't on pushback...


  • #4303
    kona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Thats a horrendous stand for a widebody.


  • #4304
    joeysoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Didn’t a baggage trailer cause damage to an AL plane at SFO last year?


  • #4305
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,692 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    So under the EU regulations, do EI now become responsible for paying every passenger that is impacted by this incident over the next couple days?


  • #4306
    basill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭basill


    Can't see why not. Then give the bill to the accountants who will send it to the SFO handling agents who in turn can claim from their insurance company. Then it becomes one big blame game between all the parties involved.


  • #4307
    joeysoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    basill wrote: »
    Can't see why not. Then give the bill to the accountants who will send it to the SFO handling agents who in turn can claim from their insurance company. Then it becomes one big blame game between all the parties involved.

    If the tractor driver is employed by SFO I imagine their insurance picks up, and any consequential costs ( hiring in etc) are also theirs. Does look very tight for an 330 aircraft. Those KLM guys carrying out the repairs didn’t look too happy, I’d guess the connections at the wing-tip are well off line.


  • #4308
    A319er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    EI have a spare 330 on tue thurs and sat , down time for scheduled checks in hangar or schedule recovery so no issue today


  • #4309
    kona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    A319er wrote: »
    EI have a spare 330 on tue thurs and sat , down time for scheduled checks in hangar or schedule recovery so no issue today

    Tomorrow is another day!


  • #4310
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Back in service overnight I am hearing so should fly ex DUB with a slight delay to a service tomorrow afternoon.

    Anyone confirm?


  • #4311
    billy few mates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    smurfjed wrote: »
    So under the EU regulations, do EI now become responsible for paying every passenger that is impacted by this incident over the next couple days?
    Do EU regulations even apply on a flight from the USA...?


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  • #4312
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    billy few mates wrote: »
    Do EU regulations even apply on a flight from the USA...?

    They apply to all flights operated from within the EU; and also to those to the EU operated by an EU based airline.


  • #4313
    billy few mates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    Didn't realise that...


  • #4314
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    I would think exceptional circumstances comes into play here in terms of compensation payouts - "unexpected flight safety shortcomings"

    Passengers will likely be given full refunds, 200 EI voucher and hotel/meals etc.


  • #4315
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I would think exceptional circumstances comes into play here in terms of compensation payouts - "unexpected flight safety shortcomings"

    Passengers will likely be given full refunds, 200 EI voucher and hotel/meals etc.

    Really? Could that not be used in all cases of mechanical issues with an aircraft then?


  • #4316
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Really? Could that not be used in all cases of mechanical issues with an aircraft then?

    Nope, I strongly suspect this incident will not require payout. They will even have certification from Airbus to back up an exceptional event. Crashing an aircraft is not an everyday thing.

    Last year bird strikes have also been ruled as extraordinary circumstances.


  • #4317
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Nope, I strongly suspect this incident will not require payout. They will even have certification from Airbus to back up an exceptional event. Crashing an aircraft is an everyday thing.

    If they take that view that'll probably be the way. They'd need some passenger to push very hard to give a payout.

    Better defined extraordinary circumstances are needed from the EU tbh, leaving an EU directive so open to interpretation won't help the consumers it hopes to protect.


  • #4318
    joeysoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    As a goodwill gesture I would passengers as much as I could, with somebody else footing the bill, even better.


  • #4319
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    joeysoap wrote: »
    As a goodwill gesture I would passengers as much as I could, with somebody else footing the bill, even better.

    They will, full refund and 200-250 future EI flight voucher as the goodwill gesture. You will still be 600-800 quid better off depending on how much you paid for flight. This is what usually happens for US flight issues in such events.


  • #4320
    Trampas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭Trampas


    It’s on its way back from sfo. I guess a ta will be a few minutes late this evening


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  • #4321
    Bussywussy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Trampas wrote: »
    It’s on its way back from sfo. I guess a ta will be a few minutes late this evening

    Back out to JFK on 109.


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