The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

rockatansky · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

Faugheen wrote: »

You talk about 800 years of British oppression.

Yet you're happy for British doctors to carry out abortions on Irish women who need them?

Right so.

Or the fact that it was a leftist agenda that he bangs on about that finally defeated the British.

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You think it is wrong..so vote No.

What point are you trying to make. You are rambling on since last night about old peoples homes. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Good stab at pretending an incredibly simple point is beyond. Or maybe it really is?
Why can't all other things that are currently crimes be made "personal choice" and "none of your business"? You haven't answered. You won't answer.
Bring on the deflection and distraction.

Stonedpilot · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

DOS wrote: »

The same bookies that had us in the top 3 to win the Eurovision due to hype?

A No victory seems to be be good odds there.

Gonna Make a prediction.

52% No Vote victory come Saturday.

23-05-2018 10:44PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Bad news for English born estate owner Declan Ganley so

we can hope!

storker · 23-05-2018 10:45PM

Overheal wrote: »

No thank you.

It's not that bad...it's good for the odd laugh.

vicwatson · 23-05-2018 10:45PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

I believe there is some family connection between Maria Steen and Teresa Lowe.
There is a certain facial resemblance, I think. And they are both lawyers!

Steen is an ex lawyer parading herself as a practicing lawyer, in fact she hasn't practiced in years.

railer201 · 23-05-2018 10:45PM

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

She's her aunt

And Theresa's husband Frank was playing the piano and also spouting off for the NO side on the Pat Kenny TV3 debate an hour ago. The family that says NO together stays together.

FrancieBrady · 23-05-2018 10:45PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Good stab at pretending an incredibly simple point is beyond. Or maybe it really is?
Why can't all other things that are currently crimes be made "personal choice" and "none of your business"? You haven't answered. You won't answer.
Bring on the deflection and distraction.

Abortion for no reason or just personal choice will STILL be a crime. Geddit?

DOS · 23-05-2018 10:46PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do you understand betting? If you bet on the above the BOOKIE wins.

I do Mr. Brady. The staunch defender of the Ulster rugby players and critic of feminists for their downfall, who now seems to have become a feminist? Very strange..

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 10:46PM

Lowe is some dope. The reason the bill to reduce the penalty for abortion to €1 was opposed by the government was because it would be unconstitutional. Because of the 8th.

vicwatson · 23-05-2018 10:47PM

Theresa Lowe and Frank McNamara, lol

bauderline · 23-05-2018 10:47PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

Someone send this to Ronan and ask him if he still thinks mental health isn't a thing....

Lustrum · 23-05-2018 10:47PM

manual_man wrote: »

On Friday, we vote for the abandonment in this country of protections for the unborn.

No we don't. On Friday we vote to give parents the personal responsibility for the protection of their unborn, and allow them to make their own choice for what they feel is best for them, their children, and their future as a family, rather than the current situation where the constitution does not allow for that choice, whatever it may be.

dark crystal · 23-05-2018 10:47PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes side wiping the floor with the No side.

Just come on to the thread now...is there another televised debate on tonight?

munsterlegend · 23-05-2018 10:47PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I'd say the days of massive overall majorities are over for not just FF but FG(I don't think FG have ever had a majority on their own)

I meant to get back as the largest party so as to actually lead a government. They need the floating voters.

Mrsmum · 23-05-2018 10:48PM

railer201 wrote: »

And Theresa's husband Frank was playing the piano and also spouting off for the YES side on the Pat Kenny TV3 debate an hour ago. The family that says YES together stays together.

No he wasn't. He was on the No side.

FrancieBrady · 23-05-2018 10:48PM

DOS wrote: »

I do Mr. Brady. The staunch defender of the Ulster rugby players and critic of feminists for their downfall, who now seems to have become a feminist? Very strange..

;);) That all you got? That I am a 'feminist' because I vote to give people choice?

Is a wee anti woman mask slipping there DOS?

Zonda999 · 23-05-2018 10:48PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

A No victory seems to be be good odds there.

Gonna Make a prediction.

52% No Vote victory come Saturday.

Coral and Ladbrokes still taking bets, currently 1/7 Yes and 4/1 No. Thats good value on a No vote, threw down a tenner on No earlier. Remember these guys were offering 8/1 on Brexit the day before and Paddy power even paid out on Hillary beating Trump.

Yes voter by the way but being rural based many fairly reasonable people I know are voting No. This has me slightly spooked and I just can;t see the gap being the 15%+ some polls indicate. I'd be surprised if theres more than 5% in it come Saturday

manual_man · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

And if you love your wife and other female relations vote yes

As i've stated before, i believe it is absolutely horrible to pit an entire gender against humanity itself. Do you not value that you were afforded a safe passage into this life? I am immensely grateful that i was afforded that passage and that i was nurtured and cared for so that i enjoy the freedoms i enjoy today and the liberation to smile (and suffer!) and feel the entire spectrum of human emotions and human being. I was ALLOWED all of this. You were allowed all of this too. Every single person reading and participating in this thread was allowed this... Now some people may argue that this is not very important, that it is simply 'consequential', but i believe in consequence, i believe in what in we know. I believe in the sanctity of life. I don't subscribe to fatalism. I hope. I don't use fear as a horrible weapon. I live. It is fúcking beautiful. All of us are fúcking beautiful. Anyone who is reading this, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. Let your individuality shine. There is no one like you. You are absolutely unique. Live, and, let, live

brendanwalsh · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

Can't trust a word Mary lou or Martin say.

The_Kew_Tour · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

Mary Lou popularity will be at its highest after this.

And I'm not been fan of her or her party, but she just winnng this.

Larbre34 · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

A No victory seems to be be good odds there.

Gonna Make a prediction.

52% No Vote victory come Saturday.

Much talk that the chaos and internal conflict within 'No' this week (debate personnel, strategy on hard case row-back etc) are due to internal polling which they have carried out themselves and the data of which puts them on the crappy side of 63-37 outcome.

Keep your money in your pocket chief.

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

dark crystal wrote: »

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes side wiping the floor with the No side.

Just come on to the thread now...is there another televised debate on tonight?

No, this is the last televised debate of the campaign. The moritorium comes into place at 2pm tomorrow.

namloc1980 · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Lowe is some dope. The reason the bill to reduce the penalty for abortion to €1 was opposed by the government was because it would be unconstitutional. Because of the 8th.

Unreal. And she's a barrister?! :eek:

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

Anybody speaking in favour of yes just come across as more mature, compassionate, understanding and fair than any No campaigner I've seen.

FrancieBrady · 23-05-2018 10:49PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Just come on to the thread now...is there another televised debate on tonight?

One just finishing up on TV3 now.

Ulysses Gaze · 23-05-2018 10:50PM

joe40 wrote: »

Future taoiseach and tanaiste?

They're working well together.

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 10:50PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Steen is an ex lawyer parading herself as a practicing lawyer, in fact she hasn't practiced in years.

Arulkumaran isn't a practicing doctor either.

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 10:50PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

A No victory seems to be be good odds there.

Gonna Make a prediction.

52% No Vote victory come Saturday.

I can't see it happening. It will be a yes win, the question is the margin.

It would be a bigger electoral upset than Brexit if it happens, given the polls. The seeming discord and crisis that has overcome the No campaign in the last two days indicates to me that private polling is showing them that Yes will prevail.

nullzero · 23-05-2018 10:50PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Can't trust a word Mary lou or Martin say.

Any politician really. Abortion is hip, people want, people who vote, they need them votes even if they don't agree with abortion.

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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