The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

23-05-2018 10:01PM

I hate that I am on the same side as Mary Lou!!!

gmisk · 23-05-2018 10:02PM

Ronan mullen - mental health doesn't exist

Maria steen - we need to help and support woman with mental health issues....

These two showing there true colours tonight the masks have well and truly slipped.

Ronan Mullen is a vile person that attack on that brave woman who shared her story... Disgusting

Cypher_sounds · 23-05-2018 10:02PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

Pat definitely a yes voter. His mission tonight was to neutralise Maria Steen. They have previous.

Well someone had to neuter her.

Calina · 23-05-2018 10:03PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

brooke 2 wrote: »

She is arrogance personified. :mad:

Is she not a woman you'd trust then ?

Well I don't personally see the need to make a decision for her about whether she continues her own crisis pregnancy or not if she is unlucky enough to have one - I trust her to make the decision in her and her family's best interest.

Whether I would entrust 15 minutes time to her to have a coffee with her is a diffetent matter.

Larbre34 · 23-05-2018 10:03PM

manual_man wrote: »

I have lost all respect for Pat Kenny. His duty is to be an unbiased facilitator of this debate but he is utterly ABUSING his platform to express his own personal pro choice agenda. PAT YOU ARE A DISGRACE!

Can I suggest he called certain folk out on their bullsh1t (scaremongering scenarios that are NOT in the proposed legislation

In fairness to PK, he knew the material

Stonedpilot · 23-05-2018 10:03PM

nullzero wrote: »

A lot of emotion and not much context.

Very true. "I cant get the words out" despite doing so as she knew her time was limited.

All this talk of Ronan being a failed Priest.

Erm how petty can you get?. We all fail at something in life, everyone.

The irony is the people saying Ronan was insensitive are the same folk insulting the balls of him!.

Everyone fails at something though. I mean Varadkar the Taoiseach is a failed Doctor.

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 10:03PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

How is your life going to be negatively affected if you don’t get to bomb an old folks home?

Oh they need a reason now? They want to. They'll be upset if they don't.
(kinda creepy the way you switched for hypothetical to talking about me there...)

basillarkin · 23-05-2018 10:04PM

lowe on tv3 now

amdublin · 23-05-2018 10:04PM

I thought Pat controlled the melee as good as possible.

I thought Regina was stand out.
I thought Colm was more co.passuonate in the marriage equality.

I thought Maria was on the ropes. She forgot to do her smiling.
Ronan. No comment.

I don't like Frank McNamara anymore. Or Teresa Lowe.
Michael Harding was so compassionate

gmisk · 23-05-2018 10:04PM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Well someone had to neuter her.

Regina Doherty did very well tonight and she really bit back at Maria steen... Long overdue!

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:04PM

Has someone came into the studio.

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 10:04PM

Declan Ganley?

Why? He's against everything.

Would not have us in the Euro, or Lisbon treaty. Gay marraige and now abortion.

Why does he get to go on national TV and air his opinions?

RabbleRouser2k · 23-05-2018 10:05PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Where's this guy when you need him?

He's dead-ended his own life about a year or two after that incident.

The Talking Bread · 23-05-2018 10:05PM

A lovely touch by Mullen to forgive Saoirse for her "sins". Class act.

Twisted man.

brendanwalsh · 23-05-2018 10:05PM

No baby with down syndrome born in Iceland for 5 years. 90% of country would be happy with legislation for rape and incest. It will lead to a slippery slope imo. Eventually genetic testing will be available for every sort of anomaly. Cystic fibrosis. Cerebral palsy.
Heart disease. Ginger hair. Small. Tall.

It will just lead to eugenics. We saw what happened in nazi Germany with that.

AllForIt · 23-05-2018 10:06PM

Specialun wrote: »

pat is defo a yes voter. in my opinion he was biased in how he handled the debate. that guy on tne panel for the no side is a bell.end

Explain. I recall him responding to factual errors of Steens on 1 or 2 of her points and that's about it. She was deliberately rabbiting on, even Ronan couldn't get a word in edgeways.

Fred Swanson · 23-05-2018 10:06PM

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Yer Da sells Avon · 23-05-2018 10:06PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I hate that I am on the same side as Mary Lou!!!

It'll be difficult for Micheal Martin to go a whole hour without saying "but what about Jean McConville?"

It wasnt me123 · 23-05-2018 10:07PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I hate that I am on the same side as Mary Lou!!!

Not as much as Michael Martin

Simi · 23-05-2018 10:07PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

No baby with down syndrome born in Iceland for 5 years. 90% of country would be happy with legislation for rape and incest. It will lead to a slippery slope imo. Eventually genetic testing will be available for every sort of anomaly. Cystic fibrosis. Cerebral palsy.
Heart disease. Ginger hair. Small. Tall.

It will just lead to eugenics. We saw what happened in nazi Germany with that.

Sheer. Utter. Nonsense.

Calina · 23-05-2018 10:08PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Martina1991 wrote: »

It. Is. None. Of. Your. Business.

I don't care what you think is wrong.

The women carrying dying children could give two sh!ts what you think is wrong.

Somebody wants to bomb an old folk's home.
It. Is. None. Of. Your. Business.
That's exactly how little sense your argument makes.

The old folks home is next door and I volunteer time to play scrabble with the old dears. They usually win. Damn right it is my business.

Plus, they were born, and some of them lived through ww2. Amazing stories. As for the ones who went to England in the 50s, jesus they are amazing people.

Way more scintillating conversation than with a miscarrying foetus.

Or, in other words, abortion is not the same as or even equivalent to torching an old folks home or a school.

manual_man · 23-05-2018 10:08PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He fact checked the rubbish live on air. Pretty remarkable if you ask me. I thought he did the best of any of the debate moderators.

He has not being fact checking the FUNDAMENTAL fact that what we are being asked to vote on is the removal of all and any protections of the unborn, and passing over the responsibility of (and GOD KNOWS what that will be) LIFE ITSELF to a handful of elected officials, whatever their whim might be!! this is a serious issue! and pitting women against the unborn is the saddest thing. Every person alive today was once a bunch of cells, was once a foetus. It's fúcking beautiful. I believe in that beauty.I believe in defending life itself. And i'm absolutely voting no

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 10:09PM

Can't say I was impressed by the quality of the debate tonight. That said Mullen did not come out well out of that.

Dude89 · 23-05-2018 10:09PM

The look of disgust on Mary Lou's face when Declan was given a personal heart felt plea.

Sheeps · 23-05-2018 10:10PM

Trasna1 wrote: »

Can't say I was impressed by the quality of the debate tonight. That said Mullen did not come out well out of that.

Agreed, he's toxic to any cause he gets behind. The debate that's on now is of higher calibre.

Uncharted · 23-05-2018 10:10PM

Pat Kenny really ran the show firmly tonight.
This set the tone for a more in depth and worthy debate.
Also,he really showed other presenters why he is still top dog when it comes to chairing a lively debate....

Im looking at you Claire Byrne!

And completely off topic... Michael Harding for President.

Specialun · 23-05-2018 10:10PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Explain. I recall him responding to factual errors of Steens on 1 or 2 of her points and that's about it. She was deliberately rabbiting on, even Ronan couldn't get a word in edgeways.

the lady on the yes side interupted maria steen numerous times too. i felt that kenny pulled the no side up alot while not applying the same rules to yes side. he clearly doesnt like maria steen.

storker · 23-05-2018 10:10PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I hate that I am on the same side as Mary Lou!!!

Console yourself with the knowledge that you have considered the issue on its own merits without being hung up about who might agree with you.

(The only sensible way to proceed when assessing anything, really.)

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:11PM

It's a first option but you had a choice to have an abortion and you and your wife made a choice which was your right.

CPTM · 23-05-2018 10:11PM

Regina Doherty was very calm and collected tonight which was refreshing.

I had the telly on mute there as I read through all the latest comments. That lad's voice is not what I was expecting!

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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