The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

gmisk · 23-05-2018 09:15PM

passremarkable wrote: »

Mullen reminds of quagmire

Giggity

FingerDeKat · 23-05-2018 09:15PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What will the No camp do if it goes through on Friday? Will they take to the streets and bring down the economy?

they might realise they were wrong and it was gods will that the amendment passed and then go and pray for hours till they receive an update from the bearded sky fairy.

Nettle Soup · 23-05-2018 09:16PM

Every time Ronan talks, a No voter changes his/her mind

Ave Sodalis · 23-05-2018 09:16PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Most people would like to know what they're voting for more than anything else. Not happening with that laughable "draft" legislation.

We are voting to repeal the 8th.

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 09:16PM

I really find the majority of people advocating "No" to be very dislikeable characters as shown on this panel tonight.

23-05-2018 09:16PM

Looks like Maria Steen is even embarrassed by Ronan Mullen.

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 09:16PM

Mushy wrote: »

Divorces and gay marriages started from a baseline of 0 though. Abortions still happen here, so won't rise exponentially like the other two.

There's 25 a year so you only have to get to 250 for it to rise exponentially.

23-05-2018 09:16PM

I often criticise Kenny for talking over guests and finishing their point but he's taking no **** here literally turned his back on Steen

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 09:17PM

Grayditch wrote: »

He's doing brilliantly for the Yes side.

Colm o Gorman ? I don't like him that much either.

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 09:17PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Already seems to be a better debate than last night.

Maria doing the NO side proud.

Pat being very antagonistic.

How, by lying? People can see through her stuff.

No campaign seem to forget that we all have the internet to look things up.

mugsymugsy · 23-05-2018 09:17PM

The yes vote will allow you to choose whether if you want to carry or not....

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 09:18PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

We are voting to repeal the 8th.

Thanks for telling us nothing. Yawn.
We are voting against the 8th. What are we voting for to replace it?

gctest50 · 23-05-2018 09:19PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Why are the "no" side arguing that abortions that abortions will increase.

Of course it will, what do they expect?

Gay marriage rates sky rocketed after the last referendum.

Divorces increased hugely in the 90s.

Stupid argument.

It's a bit odd really :

Countries where abortion is illegal have slightly higher abortion rates than countries where the procedures are legal, the research found

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)30380-4/abstract

RacoonQueen · 23-05-2018 09:19PM

All the stories of FFA are dreadfully sad. But what gets me with the No side who are talking about their babies is that even if you repeal the 8th, you can still carry that baby to term. People can still choose to carry the sick baby to term, or, they can choose to induce early or abort. Repealing the 8th does not mean that they are going to force you to have an abortion if your baby is diagnosed with a FFA.

mzungu · 23-05-2018 09:19PM

Pat Kenny taking no prisoners tonight.

One More Toy · 23-05-2018 09:20PM

Oh Ronan

Oh dear oh dear oh dear (in my best gay Byrne voice)

gmisk · 23-05-2018 09:20PM

Ronan mullen is having a nightmare... Deeply unlikeable character

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 09:20PM

Mushy wrote: »

Divorces and gay marriages started from a baseline of 0 though. Abortions still happen here, so won't rise exponentially like the other two.

It's still logical that abortion rates here will increase as people who travel abroad will have their abortion here.

Today, abortions are highly restricted and low. The numbers are bound to increase when made legal.

Ave Sodalis · 23-05-2018 09:20PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Thanks for telling us nothing. Yawn.
We are voting against the 8th. What are we voting for to replace it?

“Provision may be made by law for the regulation of termination of pregnancies.”

Atlantic Dawn · 23-05-2018 09:20PM

We should have had a referendum when condoms were made illegal in 1935 to allow them to be used, would have prevented a lot of unwanted children being born.

brendanwalsh · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

Kenny is a cuunt.

The two wallys on the yes side are a pack of salty cuunts too.

Nettle Soup · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

More Ronan please!!

Mushy · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Divorces and gay marriages started from a baseline of 0 though. Abortions still happen here, so won't rise exponentially like the other two.

There's 25 a year so you only have to get to 250 for it to rise exponentially.

25 abortions a year? Good one!

Nice bit of late night maths though

Digital_Guy · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

Pat is a great broadcaster but who really doesn't envy him right now?

namloc1980 · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Thanks for telling us nothing. Yawn.
We are voting against the 8th. What are we voting for to replace it?

This:

Provision may be made by law for the regulation of termination of pregnancy.

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 09:21PM

Why the hell are any side clapping ? FFS Stop clapping. I mean that for both sides btw. They could have had more people on the podiums to have a better representatives of all sides.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 09:22PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

I'm after spotting someone on Facebook who had their cover photo as "Don't give your constitutional power to politicians". I think someone better call the newspapers because here we were thinking we were voting on the 8th, but this person has sussed out that we are actually voting to give politicians the power to change the constitution without referendum.

Jeff Rudd? There's a whole thread about him on boards.

DarkScar · 23-05-2018 09:22PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

All the stories of FFA are dreadfully sad. But what gets me with the No side who are talking about their babies is that even if you repeal the 8th, you can still carry that baby to term. People can still choose to carry the sick baby to term, or, they can choose to induce early or abort. Repealing the 8th does not mean that they are going to force you to have an abortion if your baby is diagnosed with a FFA.

This argument has been killed a million times now. Why should you vote for people to be allowed to choose to do things you think are wrong? It makes no logical sense.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-05-2018 09:22PM

No camp using up all their credits early, Pat is letting them have all the rope they want to hang themselves.

murpho999 · 23-05-2018 09:22PM

DarkScar wrote: »

Thanks for telling us nothing. Yawn.
We are voting against the 8th. What are we voting for to replace it?

You are not voting for that.

You are voting to repeal it or not.

It will not be replaced.

When repealed then the way will be cleared for the Oireachtas to legislate on abortion.

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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