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anthonyjmaher · 22-05-2018 07:07AM

I listened to the Sunday Paper Review. Gary O'Toole was insightful and usual. Sinead O'Carroll was painful as usual.
The point that O'Toole made about the negative coverage of the GAA was very interesting, something I'd never thought about before, but it is a very interesting point. It seems the only purpose of the media coverage of Gaelic Football is to mock the whole thing. Particularly since Brolly and Spillane have become so prominent as pundits.

OldMrBrennan83 · 22-05-2018 07:38AM

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elefant · 22-05-2018 08:13AM

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I got it on my podcast app under 'The Panel on Off the Ball'.

Ol' Donie · 23-05-2018 06:33PM

How come it seems like at least every second time I put on OTB, they're doing a rugby roadshow/circle jerk?

Thank God for podcasts.

Tell me how · 23-05-2018 07:19PM

Ol' Donie wrote:

How come it seems like at least every second time I put on OTB, they're doing a rugby roadshow/circle jerk?

I'm not a fan of them either. Lot of poor jokes, fake laughs and not much else.

sightband · 23-05-2018 07:32PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

How come it seems like at least every second time I put on OTB, they're doing a rugby roadshow/circle jerk?

Thank God for podcasts.

awful stuff, farming calves and heffers gags and kiddie tales from yer one. like sitting at worst table at a wedding. horrific.

Jayesdiem · 23-05-2018 07:54PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

How come it seems like at least every second time I put on OTB, they're doing a rugby roadshow/circle jerk?

Thank God for podcasts.

Old war stories. So mundane.

Tell me how · 23-05-2018 07:56PM

Jayesdiem wrote:

Old war stories. So mundane.

Yeah but they're on so often they must be very successful. Either through ticket sales or associated sponsorship. There seems to be few tickets left for each one also so there are those they appeal to.

I'd sooner go and sit in the studio some evening than go to an outside broadcast.

ghostdancer · 23-05-2018 08:00PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

How come it seems like at least every second time I put on OTB, they're doing a rugby roadshow/circle jerk?

Thank God for podcasts.

at least they didn't have Keith Wood on again, the man could probably get by just on OTB roadshow appearance fees alone...

Ol' Donie · 23-05-2018 08:09PM

Having said that, a Kilbane-Cunnigham Football Show is fine by me.

Is Kenny on RTE highlights duty for the World Cup? That was unexpectedly brilliant last time.

yosser hughes · 23-05-2018 08:09PM

ghostdancer wrote: »

at least they didn't have Keith Wood on again, the man could probably get by just on OTB roadshow appearance fees alone...

Denis O’Brien has appointed him to the board of Communicorp.

Ol' Donie · 23-05-2018 08:12PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Yeah but they're on so often they must be very successful. Either through ticket sales or associated sponsorship. There seems to be few tickets left for each one also so there are those they appeal to.

I'd sooner go and sit in the studio some evening than go to an outside broadcast.

They're just a big ad for that manky beer that goes hand in hand with tagging along pretending you care about rugby, aren't they?

CatFromHue · 23-05-2018 08:14PM

Is there much else to fill time with this week?

Also tonight is Wednesday so they were doing the Wednesday night rugby bit.

Joe Dog · 24-05-2018 04:28PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I listened to the Sunday Paper Review. Gary O'Toole was insightful and usual. Sinead O'Carroll was painful as usual.
The point that O'Toole made about the negative coverage of the GAA was very interesting, something I'd never thought about before, but it is a very interesting point. It seems the only purpose of the media coverage of Gaelic Football is to mock the whole thing. Particularly since Brolly and Spillane have become so prominent as pundits.

It' amazing that the GAA themselves have put up with it for so long.They give a broadcaster the opportunity to show the sport and yet they do nothing but badmouth it continuously and most of the time without much justification.I doubt most other sporting organisations with put up with their broadcast partner being so unbelievably negative about their sport.I still cant work out why RTE think the 3 main football pundits are helping the coverage.

Jayesdiem · 24-05-2018 04:34PM

Joe Dog wrote: »

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I listened to the Sunday Paper Review. Gary O'Toole was insightful and usual. Sinead O'Carroll was painful as usual.
The point that O'Toole made about the negative coverage of the GAA was very interesting, something I'd never thought about before, but it is a very interesting point. It seems the only purpose of the media coverage of Gaelic Football is to mock the whole thing. Particularly since Brolly and Spillane have become so prominent as pundits.

It' amazing that the GAA themselves have put up with it for so long.They give a broadcaster the opportunity to show the sport and yet they do nothing but badmouth it continuously and most of the time without much justification.I doubt most other sporting organisations with put up with their broadcast partner being so unbelievably negative about their sport.I still cant work out why RTE think the 3 main football pundits are helping the coverage.

Two of the three should be gotten rid of to change the message. RTE’s rugby coverage has always been better because they had the Brolly/O’Rourke/Spillane clone in George Hook and his antithesis in, usually Conor O’Shea. Brent Pope had elements of both in the middle. It’s similar with Brady, Giles and Dunphy in soccer but for some reason in GAA, RTE have gone for three Hooks/Dunphys. As the most intelligent of the three, Brolly should stay.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 25-05-2018 10:24AM

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Old war stories. So mundane.

Often times tales of downright thuggery.

The double standards always crack me up.

If somebody like Dylan Hartley bursts somebody he's a cold blooded thug, when 'Saint Pauli' or one of the boys inflict harm it's just a big laugh.

Tell me how · 26-05-2018 06:56AM

After what Froome did in the Giro yesterday, I hope Kimmage is lined up for paper review tomorrow.

Jayesdiem · 26-05-2018 11:12AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Old war stories. So mundane.

Often times tales of downright thuggery.

The double standards always crack me up.

If somebody like Dylan Hartley bursts somebody he's a cold blooded thug, when 'Saint Pauli' or one of the boys inflict harm it's just a big laugh.

But this is part of a wider issue with OTB and the media in general. They paint their own as whiter than white, rule-abiding competitors. We all know Irish athletes don’t dope don’t we? None of them except for those few times in the past. But the Russians? Kick them out. The Brits are exactly the same but even worse. Look at the Bolt/Gatlin “storyline”. Vince McMahon couldn’t have done it better himself.

dastardly00 · 26-05-2018 08:25PM

Tell me how wrote: »

After what Froome did in the Giro yesterday, I hope Kimmage is lined up for paper review tomorrow.

I'd say Kimmage has spontaneously combusted after Froome's performance!

It's Bernard Jackman and Kieran Cunningham lined up for the paper review.

Tell me how · 26-05-2018 08:27PM

dastardly00 wrote:

It's Bernard Jackman and Kieran Cunningham lined up for the paper review.

Leinster Leinster Leinster so tomorrow.
Might give it a miss.

J.pilkington · 29-05-2018 06:16PM

Nice weekend of sport behind us (rugby, GAA (hurling and football), champions league and even a bit of golf so plenty to chat about. Instead the main discussion topic since the show started; sterling’s gun tattoo. What a joke, mad to get outraged.

#movethedial

threein99 · 29-05-2018 06:19PM

J.pilkington wrote: »

Nice weekend of sport behind us (rugby, GAA (hurling and football), champions league and even a bit of golf so plenty to chat about. Instead the main discussion topic since the show started; sterling’s gun tattoo. What a joke, mad to get outraged.

#movethedial

You or them ?

Jayesdiem · 29-05-2018 06:43PM

J.pilkington wrote: »

Nice weekend of sport behind us (rugby, GAA (hurling and football), champions league and even a bit of golf so plenty to chat about. Instead the main discussion topic since the show started; sterling’s gun tattoo. What a joke, mad to get outraged.

#movethedial

My advice to you is to turn over/delete their podcast feed from your phone. It’s only after I did this that I realised what a disproportionate irritant they were in my life. I’m about 3% happier as a result of this one action.

sightband · 31-05-2018 08:48PM

cannot listen to that tommy walsh lad, there might be some substance to whatever he has to say but it’s just too painful to listen to

anthonyjmaher · 02-06-2018 08:47AM

I actually like Tommy Walsh, in the same way that I like John Mullane. It's like sitting beside a knowledgeable guy in the stands for commentary. Very entertaining.
The Drico interview with Isa Nacewa was brilliant as well. They should get him to do all the rugby interviews. Very insightful, interesting questions about playing for Fiji, the decision to move back to NZ, difference in Leinster when he came back. If Ger or Joe had been doing the interview would have been 90% questions about how difficult it was being a black man in Ireland.
After this, I think Drico should do all the rugby interviews. He's very bland at the punditry, but he's very good at the interviewing.

Ol' Donie · 02-06-2018 09:17AM

Tommy Walsh is definitely one of the better contributors they have on any sport. One of the better ones on any Irish sports show.

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2018 09:20AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I actually like Tommy Walsh, in the same way that I like John Mullane. It's like sitting beside a knowledgeable guy in the stands for commentary. Very entertaining.
The Drico interview with Isa Nacewa was brilliant as well. They should get him to do all the rugby interviews. Very insightful, interesting questions about playing for Fiji, the decision to move back to NZ, difference in Leinster when he came back. If Ger or Joe had been doing the interview would have been 90% questions about how difficult it was being a black man in Ireland.
After this, I think Drico should do all the rugby interviews. He's very bland at the punditry, but he's very good at the interviewing.

Agree with the Tommy Walsh bit, it is the enthusiasm that does it.

In contrast though I find Brian O'Driscoll very dull to listen to, montone kind of half asleep like he just woke up (I would only have a very causal interest in rugby at best though)

I turned it off after 5 minutes of the introduction (can't be listening to that I will fall asleep and crash the car! I said to myself)
But it always seems to me that BOD is there just because he is BOD.

For me I always liked Gerry Thornley's enthusiasm on radio (like a mix of someone who loves rugby and Dave Fanning on speed).
The contrast between him and BOD on radio is night and day.

anthonyjmaher · 02-06-2018 02:12PM

If a fax machine could talk, it would sound like Eoin Sheehan. Cant take to him at all. I think being prepared to follow the company line and treat Gilroy like God supercedes actually being entertaining or colourful on the job.

Tell me how · 02-06-2018 02:33PM

anthonyjmaher wrote:

If a fax machine could talk, it would sound like Eoin Sheehan. Cant take to him at all. I think being prepared to follow the company line and treat Gilroy like God supercedes actually being entertaining or colourful on the job.

If you tuned in to OTBAM you'd see he consistently contradicts or has a different view to Ger.

anthonyjmaher · 02-06-2018 02:53PM

The difference in tone of the conversation about ladies football on Radio One. Ruth Fahy is saying "I don't want people to come to games just because we ask them, I want them to come because they want to and because they think they will be entertained." If the same discussion on OTB, the presenter would have already been turned it into an issue of discrimination that people were not going to the ladies matches.

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