The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

Addle · 23-05-2018 05:59PM

joe40 wrote: »

What sort of things did they do. I'm really curious

Just getting far too close with their approaches. Each person who offered me literature I responded to by saying I already know I'm voting yes. 2 people asked why I wouldn't wear a badge.
There's just so little space between them all, you can't get a break from it.
I'd say I'm in a couple of photos online where they'd just group for a picture an I happened to be beside them.
Then the signing at heuston-changing the lyrics of songs to suits their songs. It was like something you'd see in a comedy.

Are they all students/unemployed or are people taking time off to canvas?

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 06:00PM

No campaign is admitting defeat already. The meltdown and infighting over the next 48 hours is going to be gas.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 06:00PM

Ana Ancient Wacko wrote: »

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/marriage/marriage/30-years-of-research

LOL you actually think Focus on the Family, an extreme right-wing conservative US organisation, is a credible source of information?

hatrickpatrick · 23-05-2018 06:00PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ivanabacik/status/999338294117879808

Probably not a bad thing. Bacik exactly is the kind of abrasive, sexist, "agree with me or you're scum" politician who we really don't need turning undecided voters against the yes campaign through obnoxious messaging.

SusieBlue · 23-05-2018 06:00PM

gmisk wrote: »

Ah is she the one who's story keeps changing?

If it’s that eejit from the Late Late show, I’m not going watching.

If I remember correctly she is pro-life because she opted not to take abortion pills after unexpectedly finding out she was pregnant.
I believe she shared her story after the woman from the Yes side, who had to have her daughters remains shipped via courier from the UK because her and her husband couldn’t afford to stay for the funeral of their daughter.

I know whose situation I feel most sorry for.

DickSwiveller · 23-05-2018 06:00PM

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Balance maybe? Claire Byrne show was a No love in

Yes, and I disagreed with that. You don't have to be an ideologue and support your own team every time.

Atoms for Peace · 23-05-2018 06:02PM

Is there an option for little Irish flags instead.

antiskeptic · 23-05-2018 06:02PM

erica74 wrote: »

Disability will not be grounds for abortion.

On the grounds there are to be no grounds.

Sofiztikated · 23-05-2018 06:02PM

kanadams123 wrote: »

Your blindness scares me.

Do we have to make a list? Because the list of ****ty things the Yes voters have done is a hell of a lot shorter than the No voter one.

fergus1001 · 23-05-2018 06:03PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote:

Are you serious? Honestly. Have you been ignoring the no campaign completely?!

no it looks like another thinly veiled "I'm actually a no advocate and want to appear as an on the fence person" post

Ave Sodalis · 23-05-2018 06:03PM

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DickSwiveller · 23-05-2018 06:04PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

That might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read.

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 06:05PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

Then what's the point in any of us voting?

I wasn't advocating a wholesale boycott of the polls.

And of course you should vote of you can but imploring an individual to make calls/effort to find out if they can is a bit silly. The individual vote won't have a material effect on the result.

That poster should rest easy knowing that if they don't make it out to the polling station it wouldn't change the result.

bloodless_coup · 23-05-2018 06:05PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Sepsis, stroke, cardiac arrest, haemorrhage etc etc occur very quickly.

I don't want to be a ticking time bomb playing Russian roulette with my life.

Very selfish attitude to take.

Cupcake_Crisis · 23-05-2018 06:07PM

doylefe wrote: »

Very selfish attitude to take.

I assume you’re as cavalier with your own health?

fergus1001 · 23-05-2018 06:07PM

Dressing gown wrote:

Whatever happens I hope they ban those bloody posters on lampposts etc sick to death of my kid asking me questions she really should not need to think about for many more years. Instead she was telling me about how her whole class-first class-have opinions on abortion and on circumstances where it should be allowed. Utterly uncaring about the impact on the kids seeing the posters-so irresponsible by both sides using uncensored language and images.

posted this elsewhere but just thought I'd say it in the main tread:

over the past week I have seen countless Yes posters disapear and no posters erected in their place anyone else seeing this trend ?

Sofiztikated · 23-05-2018 06:08PM

Trasna1 wrote: »

I wasn't advocating a wholesale boycott of the polls.

And of course you should vote of you can but imploring an individual to make calls/effort to find out if they can is a bit silly. The individual vote won't have a material effect on the result.

That poster should rest easy knowing that if they don't make it out to the polling station it wouldn't change the result.

That very mentality is harmful to any and all campaigns.

It's not just the individual missing a vote, but others who may be in a similar mindset.

If you're thinking about voting, vote.

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 06:08PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Probably not a bad thing. Bacik exactly is the kind of abrasive, sexist, "agree with me or you're scum" politician who we really don't need turning undecided voters against the yes campaign through obnoxious messaging.

How many times has she been rejected by the electorate now?

neonsofa · 23-05-2018 06:09PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

I assume you’re as cavalier with your own health?

Oh I thought that was a yes voter being facetious. It was a genuine statement?

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 06:10PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

That very mentality is harmful to any and all campaigns.

It's not just the individual missing a vote, but others who may be in a similar mindset.

If you're thinking about voting, vote.

Answer me this.. If that poster doesn't make out will it change the result?

Calina · 23-05-2018 06:12PM

doylefe wrote: »

Very selfish attitude to take.

What is even more selfish is a randomer thinking he or she has the right to dictate healthcare decisions to people they have never met and whose circumstances they are completely unaware of just so that they can feel nice about their prolifeness.

Ave Sodalis · 23-05-2018 06:13PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

That might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read.

I feel the same way whenever people start talking about voting No for silly reasons

Trasna1 wrote: »

Answer me this.. If that poster doesn't make it change the result?

If someone wants to vote, and is a citizen, then yes, every effort possible should be encouraged to allow them to vote

Field east · 23-05-2018 06:14PM

The Majority of TDs’ are for are pro choice/ abortion . A lot of them are driven for populist reasons. RTE are covertly for a ‘Yes ‘ outcome. A number of their programmers/ presenters have shown obvious bias. The citizens assembly was ‘packed’ - some members were not correctly selected.

For those in doubt, those who plan to vote ‘yes’ but are uneasy in doing so , the undecided and those who have decided not to cast their vote , then consider voting ‘No’ for the following reason. If you vote ‘No’the government will have to go back to the drawing board and come up with legislation that is more acceptable than what is currently on the table. If you vote ‘Yes’ then that opportunity is gone forever:.
Remember this is what happened one time when the nation rejected a Gov. Proposal in relation to an EU matter. The Gov went back and redrafted the proposal and it passed second time around.

I’m very wary of the old adage they ‘ empty vessels make the most
Noise’

Digital_Guy · 23-05-2018 06:14PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

That very mentality is harmful to any and all campaigns.

It's not just the individual missing a vote, but others who may be in a similar mindset.

If you're thinking about voting, vote.

Every vote counts and every vote matters. Saying one vote won't make a difference is actually clearly inaccurate and illogical, and if everyone thought that way it would add up to a very material impact.

Cupcake_Crisis · 23-05-2018 06:15PM

neonsofa wrote: »

Oh I thought that was a yes voter being facetious. It was a genuine statement?

Going by the previous posts- it’s serious

Ave Sodalis · 23-05-2018 06:16PM

Field east wrote: »

The Majority of TDs’ are for are pro choice/ abortion . A lot of them are driven for populist reasons. RTE are covertly for a ‘Yes ‘ outcome. A number of their programmers/ presenters have shown obvious bias. The citizens assembly was ‘packed’ - some members were not correctly selected.

For those in doubt, those who plan to vote ‘yes’ but are uneasy in doing so , the undecided and those who have decided not to cast their vote , then consider voting ‘No’ for the following reason. If you vote ‘No’the government will have to go back to the drawing board and come up with legislation that is more acceptable than what is currently on the table. If you vote ‘Yes’ then that opportunity is gone forever:.
Remember this is what happened one time when the nation rejected a Gov. Proposal in relation to an EU matter. The Gov went back and redrafted the proposal and it passed second time around.

I’m very wary of the old adage they ‘ empty vessels make the most
Noise’

This post shows ignorance in the extreme. You are voting on repealing the 8th. You are not voting on legislation. If you vote No, there will be no redrafting of legislation. If you vote Yes, and Yes passes, then you can lobby the government to change the legislation. Any changes can be made after the 8th is repealed. If you vote No, there will be No changes.

DickSwiveller · 23-05-2018 06:18PM

Field east wrote: »

The Majority of TDs’ are for are pro choice/ abortion . A lot of them are driven for populist reasons. RTE are covertly for a ‘Yes ‘ outcome. A number of their programmers/ presenters have shown obvious bias. The citizens assembly was ‘packed’ - some members were not correctly selected.

For those in doubt, those who plan to vote ‘yes’ but are uneasy in doing so , the undecided and those who have decided not to cast their vote , then consider voting ‘No’ for the following reason. If you vote ‘No’the government will have to go back to the drawing board and come up with legislation that is more acceptable than what is currently on the table. If you vote ‘Yes’ then that opportunity is gone forever:.
Remember this is what happened one time when the nation rejected a Gov. Proposal in relation to an EU matter. The Gov went back and redrafted the proposal and it passed second time around.

I’m very wary of the old adage they ‘ empty vessels make the most
Noise’

I think the pro-repeal side are unlucky in that they have the crazy feminist SJW types on their side, and they're turn off for a lot of people. Just type repeal the 8th in to twitter and you'll get a good idea of what I'm talking about.

Martina1991 · 23-05-2018 06:19PM

doylefe wrote:

Very selfish attitude to take.

If you had a choice between saving my life or your wife I'm sure you'd save your wife.

Our lives are equal but you would be selfish to save someone you love.

pleas advice · 23-05-2018 06:20PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

This post shows ignorance in the extreme. You are voting on repealing the 8th. You are not voting on legislation. If you vote No, there will be no redrafting of legislation. If you vote Yes, and Yes passes, then you can lobby the government to change the legislation. Any changes can be made after the 8th is repealed. If you vote No, there will be No changes.

There would be riots if the government rowed back on the proposed legislation, they know this. If the referendum passes it's pretty much guaranteed to be 12 weeks unrestricted, whatever about the exact wording after that. It's delusional to think otherwise

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 06:22PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

If someone wants to vote, and is a citizen, then yes, every effort possible should be encouraged to allow them to vote

You didn't answer the question. Will one vote change the result?

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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