The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

seamus · 22-05-2018 09:24PM

DOS wrote: »

Don't twist my words. It's not minor but a small percentage of abortion. Harris speaks as if the majority area rape.

There is no way to allow termination in the case of rape without repealing the eighth.

If you support the eighth, then you support forcing rape victims to carry their rapist's child.

It's that black-and-white. Even if it only occurred once a decade, it's sick, and it's unacceptable.

jjmcclure · 22-05-2018 09:24PM

Wow. Where do the YES side get all the feminazis!!

Roger_007 · 22-05-2018 09:24PM

Dalary Future Price wrote: »

Harris getting his ass kicked here..

I don't agree. He's acquitting himself very well.

gmisk · 22-05-2018 09:24PM

Dalary Future Price wrote: »

Harris getting his ass kicked here..

I would say the complete opposite....but hey

DOS · 22-05-2018 09:25PM

seamus wrote: »

There is no way to allow termination in the case of rape without repealing the eighth.

If you support the eighth, then you support forcing rape victims to carry their rapist's child.

It's that black-and-white. Even if it only occurred once a decade, it's sick, and it's unacceptable.

The rapist should be dealt with. Not an innocent life taken.

Huntergonzo · 22-05-2018 09:25PM

DOS wrote: »

Don't twist my words. It's not minor but a small percentage of abortion. Harris speaks as if the majority area rape.

Sure I agree with you DOS, it's only a small percentage, to hell with them, let them get the boat. The main thing is that Ireland remains abortion free and people vote for Peadar Toibin.

JaMarcus · 22-05-2018 09:25PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

Wow. Where do the YES side get all the feminazis!!

Where do you get your opinions? At the....toilet...store?

Alf Veedersane · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

doylefe wrote: »

The old mental health card. Clear as day it's used as an excuse, ticking a box exercise in the process of getting an abortion.

Then vote No and they won't have to make up such stories booking their flight/ferry to Britain.

Because that's what they do...those women...make up reasons on a whim.

ohnonotgmail · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

Wow. Where do the YES side get all the feminazis!!

cant handle women that you cant control?

gmisk · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

DOS wrote: »

Yes but who is he? What's the agenda? We have a right to ask questions about a fellow none of us ever heard of a week ago influencing a referendum.

Do you think it's a Christian thing to slyly take a dig at someone by calling them effeminate?

The_Kew_Tour · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

A Yes vote here, but just like Byrne show last week both sides acting like School Children with those 2 Women at end

gandalf · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

Simi wrote: »

Without the charisma of Maria Steen the no campaign hasn't a hope in honest debates.

Charisma is not a word I'd associate with Steen. From watching her she has the charisma of a block of ice. She is the most capable of the no side but she lacks empathy.

Cupcake_Crisis · 22-05-2018 09:26PM

Python Desk wrote: »

I will be voting yes, but I have to laugh at the infantile "bodily autonomy" argument. Do these people think it should be perfectly legal to masturbate in public.

Bodily autonomy is about having the right to decide what happens to your body, it affects no one but the body involved. Willfully having a **** in public does not fall under the blanket of bodily autonomy.

captbarnacles · 22-05-2018 09:27PM

DOS wrote: »

The rapist should be dealt with. Not an innocent life taken.

And if the mother suffers lifelong but not fatal complications from the pregnancy this is just 'unfortunate'?

brendanwalsh · 22-05-2018 09:27PM

Harris dodging all the questions. Master politician. Smarmy ****ing prick

He has a big sneery arrogant head. Deflected all the questions from Peader.

22-05-2018 09:28PM

DOS wrote: »

The rapist should be dealt with. Not an innocent life taken.

Well I hope no women in your life ever have pregnancies resulting from rape.

Roger_007 · 22-05-2018 09:28PM

Why did Cora Sherlock pull out of the debate?

22-05-2018 09:28PM

irish ferries travel to britain for less ad on during the debate , classic you couldn't:D make it up

RobertKK · 22-05-2018 09:28PM

Calina wrote: »

Robert how sure are you that abortion is a cause here? And why? Let me know what research papers I should read on the subject.

I would like Mary Higgins to explain this because maternal death figures are higher in some countries with liberal abortion regimes. What has caused some countries with highly developed health systems to have worse outcomes.

22-05-2018 09:28PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

Wow. Where do the YES side get all the feminazis!!

Where do the no side get all their arseh0les?

retro:electro · 22-05-2018 09:28PM

This is a lot more balanced than Claire Byrne anyway thank fook.

nullzero · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

Wow. Where do the YES side get all the feminazis!!

You're in the wrong echo chamber to say that...

ohnonotgmail · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

captbarnacles wrote: »

And if the mother suffers lifelong but not fatal complications from the pregnancy this is just 'unfortunate'?

acceptable collateral damage. Gods will. Or some such nonsense.

nice_guy80 · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

rusty cole wrote: »

irish ferries travel to britain for less ad on during the debate , classic you couldn't:D make it up

They give a discount to all NO voters

It wasnt me123 · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

I wouldn't mind if they cancelled the tv debate tomorrow - I think Simon Harris is playing a blinder and leaves a very positive yes in the minds of the public

Cabaal · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

finally, RTE giving TV time to TFMR...its only right!

LuckyLloyd · 22-05-2018 09:29PM

Have to say, this is going very well. Far superior control over the debate and it's allowing the facts and arguments shine through. The facts are on the Yes side, and Harris is proving a very able advocate for his legislation.

ohnonotgmail · 22-05-2018 09:30PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I would like Mary Higgins to explain this because maternal death figures are higher in some countries with liberal abortion regimes. What has caused some countries with highly developed health systems to have worse outcomes.

What has caused some countries with highly developed health systems to have better outcomes?

erica74 · 22-05-2018 09:30PM

Python Desk wrote: »

If one believes killing the unborn is worse morally than forcing a woman to carry her rapist's baby then one should indeed belive women should be forced to carry the rapist's baby.

So you believe that a woman should be forced to carry her rapist's baby? Even if the father of that baby is her brother or her father or her abusive partner?

DOS · 22-05-2018 09:30PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Sure I agree with you DOS, it's only a small percentage, to hell with them, let them get the boat. The main thing is that Ireland remains abortion free and people vote for Peadar Toibin.

Just twisting my point Hunter and using emotion to play to the gallery.

A huge percentage of babies not conceived through rape or incest will be aborted.

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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