The royal wedding who cares.(Maybe Meghan)(Lovers of Royal Wedding thread)

Appledreams15 · 20-05-2018 10:45AM

sunbeam wrote: »

Appledreams15 wrote: »

http://people.com/royals/zara-tindall-says-she-s-lucky-she-wasnt-given-a-royal-title/

"Princess Anne famously turned down Queen Elizabeth's offer to make Zara a princess".

A quick Google suggests that Philips may have been offered the title of an earl. Zara and Peter would have been styled as Edwards and Sophie's children are, had he accepted, but not as a prince or princess.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f112/the-phillips-children-and-titles-15462.html

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.ie/2016/08/a-royal-misnomer-anne-did-not-turn-down.html

http://ukroyaltitles.tumblr.com/post/14512220408/dispelling-myths-the-phillips-reality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Princess_Royal

Edward and Sophie said that they requested that their children not be prince and princess also, so that they would have less scrutiny

Mrsmum · 20-05-2018 11:14AM

Addle wrote: »

I just think it was a pity that she was presented to him, and had to be given away.

Think of it more like her being escorted to where he is and has being waiting for her.

20-05-2018 11:15AM

RockDesk wrote: »

One of my favourite bits was the reaction of the boy who was holding her train when he heard the fanfare as they were about to walk in. He was adorable!

The trumpets must have sounded pretty spectacular in the Church

Addle · 20-05-2018 11:30AM

Mrsmum wrote: »

Think of it more like her being escorted to where he is and has being waiting for her.

No. That's a cop out.
Why can't bride/groom, groom/groom and bride/bride be equals and enter a ceremony together.
I know they do sometimes.
It's just a trend that they don't.
She couldn't promoted her feminist beliefs and they could've jointly entered the ceremony.

zell12 · 20-05-2018 11:35AM

Watch Bishop Curry's epic 13m39s oration again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhV0PL49d3Y
and the crowd getting jiggy with Stand by Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZcQhZHr354

iamwhoiam · 20-05-2018 11:36AM

Addle wrote: »

No. That's a cop out.
Why can't bride/groom, groom/groom and bride/bride be equals and enter a ceremony together.
I know they do sometimes.
It's just a trend that they don't.
She couldn't promoted her feminist beliefs and they could've jointly entered the ceremony.

Maybe it only in your head that a bride and groom don't feel equal simply because they go with a bit of tradition . Sure its only a tradition and not a written signed document that says they are not equal .Just sit back and enjoy it and don't read too much into such things .

Addle · 20-05-2018 11:46AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Maybe it only in your head that a bride and groom don't feel equal simply because they go with a bit of tradition . Sure its only a tradition and not a written signed document that says they are not equal .Just sit back and enjoy it and don't read too much into such things .

Traditions start somewhere.
Brides dress in virginal white because of queen Victoria.
Wouldn't it have been great if an event by an institution such as the royal family is where equality in marriage ceremonies would take off.

And I did enjoy the romance and fashion!

Oasis1974 · 20-05-2018 11:49AM

You wonder if behind closed doors the monarchy are reeling at the mixed race marriage. Even 20/30 years ago they'd be on the ground laughing at the thought of it. On the face of it the marriage modernized the Royal Family in the eyes of the world. I'm guessing the Queen Mum is turning in the grave? Liquorice Allsorts anyone?

Addle · 20-05-2018 11:52AM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

You wonder if behind closed doors the monarchy are reeling at the mixed race marriage. Even 20/30 years ago they'd be on the ground laughing at the thought of it. On the face of it the marriage modernized the Royal Family in the eyes of the world. I'm guessing the Queen Mum is turning in the grave? Liquorice Allsorts anyone?

Ya, and it's ironic that it's the white side of her family that let her down.

Neyite · 20-05-2018 11:56AM

Princess Michael stuck her neck out on that one and look where it got her

I'd say most of them don't care. Harry is far enough down the line of succession now that it really doesn't matter who he marries. One more kid popped out by Kate and Harry won't need the queen's permission to divorce or (re)marry.

Hector Bellend · 20-05-2018 12:02PM

I'd say Harry is piledriving her into the mattress as we speak

timthumbni · 20-05-2018 12:19PM

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'd say Harry is piledriving her into the mattress as we speak

You should write for Mills and Boon.....

zell12 · 20-05-2018 12:21PM

I've never seen a black-ginger bebé

Hector Bellend · 20-05-2018 12:30PM

timthumbni wrote: »

You should write for Mills and Boon.....

I've clearly missed my calling

Hector Bellend · 20-05-2018 12:31PM

zell12 wrote: »

I've never seen a black-ginger bebé

a binger

neonsofa · 20-05-2018 12:31PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

Harry was the most besotted groom I think I have ever seen. He is just in total awe of her.

Regarding Diana, this might seem like a terrible thing to say but I think life for William and Harry and maybe especially for their wives is less complicated with Diana not being around. She can remain on a pedestal whereas if she was around and eliciting stories in the press etc things would likely be far messier imho. As they say everyone is a saint in a graveyard. Even yesterday would not be as nice with tensions between Diana (maybe new husband) and the rest of the Royal family. When your dearest and dearest have to be together in a small space yet can't stand each other/ are avoiding each other, it's stressful for all concerned.

I'd imagine they'd gladly put up with "messy" and "complicated" to have their mam alive.

Neyite · 20-05-2018 12:43PM

zell12 wrote: »

I've never seen a black-ginger bebé

Red hair is recessive. It requires both parents to carry the gene in order for the child to have a 25% chance of becoming a red head. So it depends on her being a carrier since he clearly is.

Carry · 20-05-2018 12:56PM

zell12 wrote: »

I've never seen a black-ginger bebé

Look up Boris Becker's daughter Anna Ermakova.

mcgiggles · 20-05-2018 01:23PM

Neyite wrote:

I'd say most of them don't care. Harry is far enough down the line of succession now that it really doesn't matter who he marries. One more kid popped out by Kate and Harry won't need the queen's permission to divorce or (re)marry.

Since the birth of Louis he's 6th in line so he'd no longer have had to ask her permission to marry, is it the same for divorce/remarriage? Or is one more baby required for that? Lol

sunbeam · 20-05-2018 01:36PM

Appledreams15 wrote: »

Edward and Sophie said that they requested that their children not be prince and princess also, so that they would have less scrutiny[/QUOTE

Yes, as I said above that's the main reason why they requested only the lesser titles of earl and countess at marriage, so that their children would be styled as the son and daughter of an earl.

Itssoeasy · 20-05-2018 01:43PM

It seems that I was half wrong about whether Harry and Meghans children will be princes and princesses. It appears that it's a case by case basis from the sovereign. So, the answer is no but maybe. I'd say they will get the ok as even though Harry is down the league table a bit, he's still the son,brother, and uncle of future kings.

Strazdas · 20-05-2018 02:06PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Was I the only one who only realised yesterday that Windsor Castle was not in London ?

Its in of all places Windsor !!!

It's nowhere near London! Windsor is a good 100 miles away and it's only a smallish town......you could tell as the procession wound through the streets yesterday that it's not that big, about the same size as Kilkenny or somewhere.

Neyite · 20-05-2018 02:32PM

mcgiggles wrote: »

Since the birth of Louis he's 6th in line so he'd no longer have had to ask her permission to marry, is it the same for divorce/remarriage? Or is one more baby required for that? Lol

The law changed in 2013 that only the six in line to the throne need permission, so he still needed permission. Another baby from Kate would make him 7th in line so he wouldn't need permission to marry or divorce from her Maj.

However the birth of Louis bumped Andrew off the list of those needing royal permission. The papers made some pointed articles about that because he gets on extremely well with his ex wife and they unofficially live together so it's been speculated that Andrew and her might remarry if allowed. Since their divorce neither have been linked with any other significant other.

iamwhoiam · 20-05-2018 02:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

It's nowhere near London! Windsor is a good 100 miles away and it's only a smallish town......you could tell as the procession wound through the streets yesterday that it's not that big, about the same size as Kilkenny or somewhere.

Yes . I got that yesterday !! Did a bit of wandering on google maps . Its not 100 miles away

dxhound2005 · 20-05-2018 03:01PM

20 miles from London.

Mint Sauce · 20-05-2018 03:02PM

Strazdas wrote: »

It's nowhere near London! Windsor is a good 100 miles away and it's only a smallish town......you could tell as the procession wound through the streets yesterday that it's not that big, about the same size as Kilkenny or somewhere.

Bit off topic, but its not even an hours drive from the centre of London, its no way near 100miles. Just beyond the M25, and right under the Heathrow flight path depending on the approach.

But you are correct about it being a small town.

Strazdas · 20-05-2018 03:23PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Bit off topic, but its not even an hours drive from the centre of London, its no way near 100miles. Just beyond the M25, and right under the Heathrow flight path depending on the approach.

But you are correct about it being a small town.

Is it that near? I've always associated it with the royals and with the racecourse where they hold lots of evening meetings in the summer.

Purple Mountain · 20-05-2018 03:24PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Bit off topic, but its not even an hours drive from the centre of London, its no way near 100miles. Just beyond the M25, and right under the Heathrow flight path depending on the approach.

But you are correct about it being a small town.

We have family living in that area so I've been to Windsor maybe 5 times.
I'd highly recommend it. It is a fabulous town with amazing architecture and the Thames River and parks. It is also home to Eton college where both princes went to school.
LegoLand is about 15 minutes away with a shuttle bus from right outside Windsor Castle.
If you like a town like Kilkenny with its looming castle and little slipways then you'll love Windsor.

seenitall · 20-05-2018 03:33PM

Neyite wrote: »

The law changed in 2013 that only the six in line to the throne need permission, so he still needed permission. Another baby from Kate would make him 7th in line so he wouldn't need permission to marry or divorce from her Maj.

However the birth of Louis bumped Andrew off the list of those needing royal permission. The papers made some pointed articles about that because he gets on extremely well with his ex wife and they unofficially live together so it's been speculated that Andrew and her might remarry if allowed. Since their divorce neither have been linked with any other significant other.

Hmmm... there are some rumours flying around about Andrew. If they are true, it is unlikely there will be another marriage in his future, if you know what I mean.

But shur, who knows... It all beats Mexican soaps anyway!

Mint Sauce · 20-05-2018 03:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Is it that near? I've always associated it with the royals and with the racecourse where they hold lots of evening meetings in the summer.

Ascot? Yeah thats beside Windsor. Epsom? Within the M25.

The royal wedding who cares.(Maybe Meghan)(Lovers of Royal Wedding thread)

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