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8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

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  • #8942
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,854 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    thee glitz wrote: »
    Why the need for abortion on demand up to 12 weeks though? That's what's turning many people away voting yes.

    Are the NO camp still using this idiotic misnomer ? :rolleyes:


  • #8943
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Overheal wrote: »
    Wait - how do you twist sexual abuse into a reason to keep the 8th?
    Think its something to do with abuse partners forcing women to have abortions......... Yep their minds work in mysterious ways

    UxaETVN.png


  • #8944
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    gandalf wrote: »
    It's been explained here multiple times. Its to cover for abortion because of rape or incest.

    This particular circumstance, which changed the poster's mind, didn't involve rape or incest. What's the story with the incest argument anyway - borne out of concern for the baby?
    swampgas wrote: »
    How many weeks would you accept?

    None, no weeks.


  • #8945
    realitykeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?


  • #8946
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Business Post poll 56% yes, 27 no, 14 dont know :)


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  • #8947
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?
    Are you from waterford because that's as bad as the woman on newstalk today on about rape and rape rooms


  • #8948
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?


    Are we the only country in Europe that dosent allow murder and paedophilia so our citizens have to go else where to commit these crimes? Cop yourself on


  • #8949
    FingerDeKat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    the amount of lying , the amount of false facts , emotive pictures...surely people can see crap for what it is?


    Sure if you were gonna voite no you'd vote no..but to people sitting on the fence obviouse sh1t is obvious


  • #8950
    swampgas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭swampgas


    thee glitz wrote: »
    None, no weeks.

    I'm not sure why you're so bothered about whether it's 12 weeks instead of 10 or 20 weeks then.


  • #8951
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Putinbot wrote: »
    So I've made up my mind. I was a no but now I'm a yes. My neighbour got taken out of her house this morning at 7am. She had a seizure. She is just over 3 months pregnant and they think she may have meningitis. They are telling her and her husband that they can't do some tests as it may effect the baby.

    They should ask medicsfor8th on twitter what required tests for meningitis are withheld from a pregnant woman, thereby endangering her life.


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  • #8952
    swampgas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭swampgas


    thee glitz wrote: »
    They should ask medicsfor8th on twitter what required tests for meningitis are withheld from a pregnant woman, thereby endangering her life.

    Or we could just repeal the 8th.


  • #8953
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?

    We aren't talking about murder or paedophilia though are we do it's all moot. Unless you think women who have abortions are in the same category as those who rape children


  • #8954
    PressRun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?

    Are all those countries where abortion is legal also allowing pedophilia and genocide and murder as well? Or are you just being a wee bit hysterical?


  • #8955
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Think its something to do with abuse partners forcing women to have abortions......... Yep their minds work in mysterious ways

    UxaETVN.png

    I'm confused now... is it abortion on demand? Or forced abortion?


  • #8956
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    I have heard pro choice people say that abortion will continue to happen with or without the 8th amendment and therefore the 8th should be repealed. Well, murder, pedophilia and genocide happen, should they be allowed too?

    Seriously? And this nonsense got 2 likes. :D

    You should have been a solicitor.


  • #8957
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Business Post poll 56% yes, 27 no, 14 dont know :)

    I really cant see No winning at this point. It would be ludicrous.


  • #8958
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    thee glitz wrote: »
    They should ask medicsfor8th on twitter what required tests for meningitis are withheld from a pregnant woman, thereby endangering her life.

    She shouldn’t have to go ask some biased doctors on Twitter.
    She is being withheld necessary testing by the doctors who are treating her due to concerns for the baby.
    The whole point is that she shouldn’t have to seek out another doctor, one who interprets the law differently.
    She shouldn’t have to ask on Twitter.
    She should be able to discuss all options for all treatments with her condition with her doctor, and then, based on that conversation, make her own informed decision on the matter.

    Do you really think ‘ask on Twitter’ or ‘ask another doctor’ is an acceptable form of medical care?
    Do you think this is an appropriate request to a woman who just wants the best for herself and her child?
    She shouldn’t have to do that.


  • #8959
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I'm confused now... is it abortion on demand? Or forced abortion?
    It's hard to keep up with them


  • #8960
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,714 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Business Post poll 56% yes, 27 no, 14 dont know :)

    Marriage Referendum Sunday Business Poll just before the Marriage Referendum was
    Excluding Other
    Yes 73%.
    No 27%.
    Including Other
    Yes 69%.
    No 25%.
    Other 6%.


  • #8961
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Business Post poll 56% yes, 27 no, 14 dont know :)
    That is encouraging but other polls recently had yes a good bit lower.
    All about turn out!
    Fingers crossed!


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  • #8962
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    gmisk wrote: »
    That is encouraging but other polls recently had yes a good bit lower.
    All about turn out!
    Fingers crossed!


    Oh ya but at least its bucking the trend, another move towards No would have been worrying


  • #8963
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    thee glitz wrote: »
    This particular circumstance, which changed the poster's mind, didn't involve rape or incest. What's the story with the incest argument anyway - borne out of concern for the baby?

    So I take it that you accept the rational behind the rape arguement then?


  • #8964
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Nettle Soup wrote: »
    I really cant see No winning at this point. It would be ludicrous.
    I still can it ain't over til it's over need an excellent turn out of yes voters to do this!


  • #8965
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Marriage Referendum Sunday Business Poll just before the Marriage Referendum was
    Excluding Other
    Yes 73%.
    No 27%.
    Including Other
    Yes 69%.
    No 25%.
    Other 6%.

    and?:confused: Hardly a huge difference considering the margin of error


  • #8966
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Business Post poll 56% yes, 27 no, 14 dont know :)

    Polling is a forlorn exercise these days, Trump and Brexit bear this out. A lot of people straight up lie to pollsters because they are not comfortable that their vote fits the popular movement.

    Having said that the same sex marriage referendum could well be a touchpoint for this vote.

    The collection of headbangers advocating a no vote should be enough alone to carry a yes result.


  • #8967
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    swampgas wrote: »
    Or we could just repeal the 8th.

    That doesn't seem a proportionate solution, less so than building a wall to solve an immigration problem.


  • #8968
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    gandalf wrote: »
    So I take it that you accept the rational behind the rape arguement then?

    I think I understand it, but don't necessarily accept it.


  • #8969
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,714 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    and?:confused: Hardly a huge difference considering the margin of error

    I posted the stats just to show people difference!


  • #8970
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    thee glitz wrote: »
    I think I understand it, but don't necessarily accept it.

    So you would force a rape victim carry a child she didn't want?


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  • #8971
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    applehunter wrote: »
    Are you CNC?

    Yes


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