Dairy chit chat II

Timmaay · 17-05-2018 03:37PM

alps wrote: »

"Team" is a great analogy..

In a team you can normally substitute the player not contributing...

In dairy....you're stuck with the runt...

They need to change team to family so. Although you could argue you can divorce or put up for adoption non preforming family members ha.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-05-2018 03:52PM

alps wrote: »

"Team" is a great analogy..

In a team you can normally substitute the player not contributing...

In dairy....you're stuck with the runt...

You do that in dairy too. But you have to wait longer because you just can't fire in the junior player into championship level and expect them to play ball straight away.

Mooooo · 17-05-2018 04:05PM

Anyone hear of these sheaths that apparently are easier to get thru the cervix on heifers? Saw lads on Twitter on about it but had never heard of em

alps · 17-05-2018 08:17PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Anyone hear of these sheaths that apparently are easier to get thru the cervix on heifers? Saw lads on Twitter on about it but had never heard of em

Great job Mooooo...wouldn't use anything else..

Your AI man should be able to get them for you...normally in stock in AI centre in Mallow...

Comparing techniques with AI man that covers here, and he is a top class careful operator, with handling, thawing, cleanliness etc, and the one thing that sticks out from what he does is he takes about 10 seconds to depress the plunger.

He was thought that being aggressive on the plunger damages sperm, and I would think twice as important with these alpha sheats as there are 2 exit holes at the top which are smaller than the hole on the top of the sheats we normally use.

simx · 17-05-2018 11:42PM

Bit of a query for ye lads, sold 10 Calved heifers in a dairy sale, got a call today about one man saying not happy, recorded heifer doing 13/14l, now I've no jars and didn't have recordings for them so can only say by appearance any I sold were milking ok, good enough looking bags etc. said she's not mad mixing with the rest of them and he has to get her into parlour every time, when here usually came in mid milking, she sounds stressed to me, also I was feeding 4kg nuts still so he could be feeding nothing for what I know, said he'd give her another few days and if no better he'll be back on to me

cute geoge · 18-05-2018 12:06AM

If you sold on appearance with out any mad fancy figures ,i do not think he has any law to get unless you are feeling very charitable!!!1
What sort of money did she make????

mahoney_j · 18-05-2018 06:41AM

simx wrote: »

Bit of a query for ye lads, sold 10 Calved heifers in a dairy sale, got a call today about one man saying not happy, recorded heifer doing 13/14l, now I've no jars and didn't have recordings for them so can only say by appearance any I sold were milking ok, good enough looking bags etc. said she's not mad mixing with the rest of them and he has to get her into parlour every time, when here usually came in mid milking, she sounds stressed to me, also I was feeding 4kg nuts still so he could be feeding nothing for what I know, said he'd give her another few days and if no better he'll be back on to me

Don’t answer call next time ,pure chancer

Gawddawggonnit · 18-05-2018 06:52AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Strange one. Normally they would be off form if not giving the milk. I assume she doesn't have much of a springing or is it that she is only releasing 5L? If she has a full bag possibly not producing oxytocin to drop the milk so possibly a shot of that may help

Shot of oxytocin did the job.
Thanks.

simx · 18-05-2018 07:08AM

cute geoge wrote: »

If you sold on appearance with out any mad fancy figures ,i do not think he has any law to get unless you are feeling very charitable!!!1
What sort of money did she make????

€1360

jaymla627 · 18-05-2018 07:17AM

simx wrote: »

€1360

If he's local and you don't want the ball-achce of him telling half the parish about your dodgy heifer tell him to factory her and you'll make up the difference, he probably won't and will leave you to it, other then that telling him to take a runnjng jump would be the polite phrase next time he calls

simx · 18-05-2018 07:28AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

If he's local and you don't want the ball-achce of him telling half the parish about your dodgy heifer tell him to factory her and you'll make up the difference, he probably won't and will leave you to it, other then that telling him to take a runnjng jump would be the polite phrase next time he calls

He's not really local he's prob 20/25
Miles away, the more I think of it he's chancing his arm

whelan2 · 18-05-2018 07:51AM

How long is it since he bought her. Some of them take a while to settle down and as you say you don't know what his set up is

simx · 18-05-2018 08:34AM

whelan2 wrote: »

How long is it since he bought her. Some of them take a while to settle down and as you say you don't know what his set up is

Bought her Monday he rang yesterday

Mf310 · 18-05-2018 08:39AM

simx wrote:

Bought her Monday he rang yesterday

The fact that you sold 10 shows you werent just picking out a bad one not milking ... heifers hard to judge on year 1 anyway could be the best cow in a years time

leg wax · 18-05-2018 08:47AM

tell him to bring them all back as you are not happy that he is complaining ,

Mooooo · 18-05-2018 08:54AM

Fcuk sake my own cows took two weeks to settle when I put in a new machine in the same building and all that changed from their point of view was mangers were on the wall. Id say let him off, unless there was a quarter wrong or something

simx · 18-05-2018 11:09AM

leg wax wrote: »

tell him to bring them all back as you are not happy that he is complaining ,

He didn't buy them all, don't know whether he bought a few or just one

whelan2 · 18-05-2018 11:43AM

simx wrote: »

He didn't buy them all, don't know whether he bought a few or just one

Did the mart give out your number?

simx · 18-05-2018 12:17PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Did the mart give out your number?

He was in the mart at cattle sale and rang from office don't know whether they gave it to him after that tbh

Mooooo · 18-05-2018 12:39PM

Maize going in next door, hope tis a good summer as a bit high and exposed here for it I reckon

yewtree · 18-05-2018 01:54PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Maize going in next door, hope tis a good summer as a bit high and exposed here for it I reckon

I reckon there is a bit of an over reaction to fodder shortage a lot of lads paying crazy money for silage ground around here. A bit of extra fertiliser on second cuts would sort a lot of issues
Was talking to a lad recently and he reckoned the total amount of feed imported was the equivalent of 700 acres of 1st cut silage.
I know the coop found it hard to sell last few loads around here and they brought in only 30 loads in an area that was suppose to be one of the worst hit.

jaymla627 · 18-05-2018 02:03PM

yewtree wrote: »

I reckon there is a bit of an over reaction to fodder shortage a lot of lads paying crazy money for silage ground around here. A bit of extra fertiliser on second cuts would sort a lot of issues
Was talking to a lad recently and he reckoned the total amount of feed imported was the equivalent of 700 acres of 1st cut silage.
I know the coop found it hard to sell last few loads around here and they brought in only 30 loads in an area that was suppose to be one of the worst hit.

That's only a small part of it to be fair, most mills where putting out nearly 60-100 % more meal then a normal spring work that back into silage needed and it would be a serious amount of feed, a lot of pits totally emptied aswell where normally a buffer was always carried over

cute geoge · 18-05-2018 02:13PM

yewtree wrote: »

I reckon there is a bit of an over reaction to fodder shortage a lot of lads paying crazy money for silage ground around here. A bit of extra fertiliser on second cuts would sort a lot of issues
Was talking to a lad recently and he reckoned the total amount of feed imported was the equivalent of 700 acres of 1st cut silage.
I know the coop found it hard to sell last few loads around here and they brought in only 30 loads in an area that was suppose to be one of the worst hit.

I never heard such bull in all my life .Last year there was a big carry over of silage from previous year ,as well as one of the best grass growing years .There was so much surplus silage in abundance by last july ,you would be lucky to get €18 for good baled silage .But by god things went fair down hill after that!!!

kowtow · 18-05-2018 03:32PM

Either way if we want to avoid headlines and a mad panic next spring surely it would be sensible for the co-ops etc. to start lining up boats and straw from England now, rather than wait until we have run out and are bidding on the dust at the back of every barn.

yewtree · 18-05-2018 03:55PM

cute geoge wrote: »

I never heard such bull in all my life .Last year there was a big carry over of silage from previous year ,as well as one of the best grass growing years .There was so much surplus silage in abundance by last july ,you would be lucky to get €18 for good baled silage .But by god things went fair down hill after that!!!

If you apply the same management every year you will grow the same amount of grass every year, the idea that there is massive swings in the amount of grass grown each year is utter nonsense. The lower growth in Jan-April will be compensated for by higher than normal growth rates during other parts of the year. Management at farm level has a much bigger effect on grass growth rates.
My point is that relatively small changes in farm management will result in there being plenty of silage for next winter. I don't think sowing maize in an unsuitable location is a very good idea.

MF290 · 18-05-2018 11:18PM

kowtow wrote: »

Either way if we want to avoid headlines and a mad panic next spring surely it would be sensible for the co-ops etc. to start lining up boats and straw from England now, rather than wait until we have run out and are bidding on the dust at the back of every barn.

Not too many tillage farmers would like to see English straw coming in with blackgrass seeds (as well as other obvious reasons). Tillage acreage down consecutively the past 5/6 years. Straw could easily be scarce with late sowings but if it's plentiful lads don't have any problem beating the tillage farmer down on price and outbidding on rented land.
Maize acreage is up massively, if I was growing it on contract I'd want more than a promise in case there ends up being a great summer and plenty of fodder.

whelan2 · 19-05-2018 06:07PM

Got a text today for water in the milk. We have a flush line so no water should be left in line. All jars emptied before milking starts and in plate cooler drained. Only ever get a text about water at this time of year. I am doing all the milkings so I know it is being drained right. Anyone else get a text?

longgonesilver · 19-05-2018 10:05PM

Are you first to be collected in the load?

whelan2 · 19-05-2018 10:11PM

longgonesilver wrote: »

Are you first to be collected in the load?

yes

Waffletraktor · 20-05-2018 07:31AM

MF290 wrote: »

Not too many tillage farmers would like to see English straw coming in with blackgrass seeds (as well as other obvious reasons). Tillage acreage down consecutively the past 5/6 years. Straw could easily be scarce with late sowings but if it's plentiful lads don't have any problem beating the tillage farmer down on price and outbidding on rented land.
Maize acreage is up massively, if I was growing it on contract I'd want more than a promise in case there ends up being a great summer and plenty of fodder.

There is also fook alll straw and fodder left with yields going to be well back for a second year.

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