8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

17-05-2018 11:19PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

“If the 8th Amendment didn’t exist there would be a lot of people who are here today that would not be”

Same could be said for alcohol!

Just remembered this when I read this post ðŸ˜€

freshpopcorn · 17-05-2018 11:22PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

There are many on the Yes side who are dropping the ball-Simon Harris, Leo Varadkar and a number of other yes proponents haven't spoken up.

For some reason I have it in my head that Leo says he isn't going to do a debate.

gmisk · 17-05-2018 11:23PM

I am watching tonight tv3.... Louise Kenny and Catherine noone are absolutely wiping the floor with these two from the no side imo.

There is also going to be a fact check at the end...the no side are panicking already you can tell!

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 11:24PM

joe40 wrote: »

It is actually very good. I know it is a religious programme but so it is balanced. The Norway set up is interesting instead of constantly focussing on Britain

I also found it very informative and balanced.

Agree it was really good to see what happens in Norway. Hate how media and poiticians here often use UK as the standard as if they do everything perfectly.

Didn't find it was a religious programme at all.

Whiplash85 · 17-05-2018 11:25PM

That would you believe show was harrowing. Showed the stark reality of the sanctity of life, how precious it is and how it needs to be protected. I'd imagine any undecideds would be compelled to vote no after that. Some very poignant imagery that cannot be airbrushed over by cowardly self centred yes voters.

djPSB · 17-05-2018 11:32PM

Is a Yes vote is passed, do people have confidence that the HSE are capable of providing the level of care required?

17-05-2018 11:33PM

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Yes vote is passed, do people have confidence that the HSE are capable of providing the level of care required?

Yes

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 11:36PM

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Yes vote is passed, do people have confidence that the HSE are capable of providing the level of care required?

Of course.

Medical abortions will most likely be carried out involving tablets so the treatment is quite simple.

kenmc · 17-05-2018 11:37PM

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Yes vote is passed, do people have confidence that the HSE are capable of providing the level of care required?

Yes

freshpopcorn · 17-05-2018 11:37PM

gmisk wrote: »

I am watching tonight tv3.... Louise Kenny and Catherine noone are absolutely wiping the floor with these two from the no side imo.

There is also going to be a fact check at the end...the no side are panicking already you can tell!

Who'd doing the no side?

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 11:38PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

That would you believe show was harrowing. Showed the stark reality of the sanctity of life, how precious it is and how it needs to be protected. I'd imagine any undecideds would be compelled to vote no after that. Some very poignant imagery that cannot be airbrushed over by cowardly self centred yes voters.

Depends how you interpret it.

For me it confirmed my thoughts on why I should vote yes,and I think many will feel that way.

The story of the young girl going through her journey to the UK was enough for me.

It wasnt me123 · 17-05-2018 11:38PM

gmisk wrote: »

I am watching tonight tv3.... Louise Kenny and Catherine noone are absolutely wiping the floor with these two from the no side imo.

There is also going to be a fact check at the end...the no side are panicking already you can tell!

I'm also watching it. I can't stand Kirsten Fuller.

Louise Kenny is an excellent debater, she's clever and full of facts.

Repeal all the way

freshpopcorn · 17-05-2018 11:44PM

Has Colm O'Gorman done any debate yet?

gmisk · 17-05-2018 11:45PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Who'd doing the no side?

Wendy grace
And a gp called Kristen fuller who to be honest has been an absolute clueless disaster

gmisk · 17-05-2018 11:47PM

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

I'm also watching it. I can't stand Kirsten Fuller.

Louise Kenny is an excellent debater, she's clever and full of facts.

Repeal all the way

I have never heard of Kristen fuller but she is brutal!
Professor Louise kenny.... Wow absolutely terrific she needs to me on every debate going!

gandalf · 17-05-2018 11:47PM

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

I'm also watching it. I can't stand Kirsten Fuller.

Yeah she oozes the condescending attitude of the other ice maidens of save the eight campaign.

Louise Kenny is an excellent debater, she's clever and full of facts.

Repeal all the way

Hopefully but the misinformation from the Love Boats is having an effect.

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 11:47PM

No crowd on TV3 just using rare exceptions of mis diagnosis as a reason to keep the 8th.

Lackey · 17-05-2018 11:49PM

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Yes vote is passed, do people have confidence that the HSE are capable of providing the level of care required?

As a yes voter I cant say I do right now,
But I think HSE at home would be better a better level of care than having to travel to another country and home, or taking pills they ordered online.

freshpopcorn · 17-05-2018 11:49PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Depends how you interpret it.

.

I really agree with this
I have no idea who's on tonight but I remember seen something on Cutting Edge last year.
I think it was Tommy Tiernan and Maria Steen. I saw it with one pro-life person and a person who was pro=repeal both couldn't praise there own side enough.
The comments were like He has her there and She has him there!

joe40 · 17-05-2018 11:51PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

That would you believe show was harrowing. Showed the stark reality of the sanctity of life, how precious it is and how it needs to be protected. I'd imagine any undecideds would be compelled to vote no after that. Some very poignant imagery that cannot be airbrushed over by cowardly self centred yes voters.

Did we just watch the same show.?
The GP talking about her ffa abortion was heartbreaking, and then how she met the priest at the hospital in liverpool who showed compassion and told it was ok and not too let it keep her away from mass.
This was a catholic priest that was able to show the compassion and understanding lacking from many on the no side here.

gandalf · 17-05-2018 11:52PM

What Planet is that Kisten Fuller on. When my missus was pregnant she educated herself about all the tests and information and I suspect most other women in the same situation did similar. <snip>

It wasnt me123 · 17-05-2018 11:52PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Who'd doing the no side?

Kirsten Fuller and a journalist who's name I didn't get but I think her first name is Wendy. All young women.

17-05-2018 11:53PM

murpho999 wrote: »

No crowd on TV3 just using rare exceptions of mis diagnosis as a reason to keep the 8th.

Can't see it as in the UK at the moment, anything like the cb debate in relation to audience participation and heckling?

gandalf · 17-05-2018 11:54PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Can't see it as in the UK at the moment, anything like the cb debate in relation to audience participation and heckling?

No audience so it is a lot better. They're not so effective when they don't have their baying minions shouting down the opposition!

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 11:55PM

gandalf wrote: »

What Planet is that Kisten Fuller on. When my missus was pregnant she educated herself about all the tests and information and I suspect most other women in the same situation did similar. <snip>

She doesn't seem to realise that women have the internet nowadays.

She talks down to people like a smug priest in my opinion.

I find it amazing that any medical person can support the 8th
Then again I find it odd that doctors can be religious too.

It wasnt me123 · 17-05-2018 11:56PM

Kirsten Fuller is a Fethard, Co. Tipperary GP - who says no to everything - SSM, Abortion - anything that lets normal every day people take control of their own lives.

Now doing a fact check

17-05-2018 11:56PM

gandalf wrote: »

No audience so it is a lot better.

Thanks, hopefully on their player when I get back and will take a look.

18-05-2018 12:01AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Has Colm O'Gorman done any debate yet?

Did a spot on the last word wth Lorcan Price for retain, haven't heard that he did any others, but open to correction

It wasnt me123 · 18-05-2018 12:02AM

Excellent fact check.

5 amendments to what the No side had said
1 amendment to what the Yes side had said
Confirmation that the 8th was a material factor in the death of Savita - even the dogs in the street knew that.

Continuation of this debate tomorrow night at 10.30 - not sure who will be on the panel.

The fact check is a great idea

freshpopcorn · 18-05-2018 12:03AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Did a spot on the last word wth Lorcan Price for retain, haven't heard that he did any others, but open to correction

I was just thinking we'd have seen more of him!

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