Plans for large-scale Dublin Mosque get green light

ThinkProgress · 15-05-2018 07:02AM

Sleepwalking ourselves into the abyss.... just like most other western nations!!

Hey, at least we'll be in good company when our society disintegrates around us in the near future!

A Neurotic · 15-05-2018 07:13AM

Jesus this thread is eye-opening.

Boards has become full of racist online nutjobs. Shame.

ConnyMcDavid · 15-05-2018 07:14AM

Why did states choose Catholic religion in the first place. First they were arresting Jesus but now entire states are hand in hand with religion. It makes people self policing and saves governments a lot of money.

And just when Catholicism has lost a lot of trust around Europe after scandal after scandal, EU starts this major influx of Islam. Which would suit them because they would have the self control of the people again and this religion can't be just shaken off.

suicide_circus · 15-05-2018 07:19AM

What other countries pour money into religious and cultural projects in other countries?

arleitiss · 15-05-2018 07:22AM

Conservatory wrote: »

Dr sattar fixed my back for me. Pushed my wheelchair when other hospital staff watched me hobble.
I thanked him afterwards and said he gave me my left leg back. He said “no god gave you your leg back I am just his tools”.
Came across as a great man. I wish him well with his new venture he had a devastating family tragedy in the uk due to I believe a wrong address getting attacked. I don’t have religion but I hope he finds peace in his.

He was my doctor as well for CSF Leak I had (Spinal fluid coming out of nose), he's a great guy and it's very unfortunate what happened to his family.

Sonics2k · 15-05-2018 07:27AM

Mutant z wrote: »

Not from the north and most of it was before my time but that was a completely different situation to the current Islamic terror inflicting the world and anyhow why does that justify importing Islamic terror into this country.

Ah, so you've no clue what you're talking about.

Well let me tell you this, I grew up during the Troubles in London as the son of an Irish family.

All the same things being said now were being said then.

facehugger99 · 15-05-2018 07:36AM

I for one, welcome our new Muslim overlords.

Phoebas · 15-05-2018 07:38AM

This is a development of a mosque and community centre on a site that already has a mosque and a community centre, so anyone worried about it can look at its track record up to now.

The Dr. behind the project seems like the most mild mannered, moderate person you could hope to meet despite his own personal tragedy.

There is a fair bit of scaremongering on the other thread that this is a Wahabbi mosque built by Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Dishonest nonsense of course, but a section of the population seem to lose all perspective when it comes to anything Muslim.

SuperS54 · 15-05-2018 07:44AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What other countries pour money into religious and cultural projects in other countries?

Vatican city?

Working class heroes · 15-05-2018 07:50AM

Arab to Paddy, can I build a Mosque? Yeah sure, go ahead.
Apple to Paddy, can I build a Data Centre? No, fcuk off.

whiskeyman · 15-05-2018 07:50AM

I've reviewed the plans for the mosque and it makes financial sense.
They're installing a trampoline floor in the prayer area with a low clear ceiling.

Prophets will go through the roof!

Sonics2k · 15-05-2018 07:52AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What other countries pour money into religious and cultural projects in other countries?

Americans.

machiavellianme · 15-05-2018 08:02AM

endacl wrote: »

I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords?

That question mark suggests that you aren't too sure?

facehugger99 wrote: »

I for one, welcome our new Muslim overlords.

You for two.

Mackerel and Avocado Sandwich · 15-05-2018 08:02AM

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

A conservative male, I welcome our new Muslim friends. I intend to convert so I can reap the benefits of Islam: can have multiple wives, will no longer be bound by political correctness, can say and do as I please safe in the knowledge I can use my minority privilege as a get of jail card.

Can beat, assault and oppress women and feminists will defend my right to do so.

Sounds to me like you’re moving to a halting site

Hurrache · 15-05-2018 08:52AM

All those rushing to get offended obviously don't realise the same location is used as meeting spaces for them already.

whisky_galore · 15-05-2018 09:27AM

One religion of Middle-Eastern origin replaced by another.

I suppose they could always use those empty or soon-to-be empty church buildings up and down the country.

wakka12 · 15-05-2018 09:48AM

Mutant z wrote: »

If the Saudis want to fund mosques then they should only stick to the ones in their own country they should be told to **** off from here Ireland is a European non Islamic country and should remain so.

They are just setting the mosque up for irish people/immigrants who live in ireland who are muslim. Its not making anyone a muslim and its existance doesnt mean ireland wont be a european christian country anymore. The only thing making ireland non christian is the vast numbers of irish people who chose not to follow religion anymore!

Mackerel and Avocado Sandwich · 15-05-2018 09:49AM

I used to work beside the mosque in Clonskeagh years ago and on Fridays you could go there to eat. Really delicious food for cheap and friendly people.

The_Kew_Tour · 15-05-2018 09:55AM

Don't see problem really. One there already and Blanch is going be that area in few years

whisky_galore · 15-05-2018 09:58AM

wakka12 wrote: »

The only thing making ireland non christian is the vast numbers of irish people who chose not to follow religion anymore!

Maybe if the RCC didn't sh1t on its own doorstep and it actually moved with the times maybe there would be a lot more churchgoers. I don't think we in the West do the 'blind faith' thing anymore.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 15-05-2018 10:01AM

bubblypop wrote: »

I live in a muslim majority country, the call to prayer is audible everywhere.
It's not annoying at all.

I used to live beside the railtrack in Drumcondra, not annoying either after a week.
I'm not seeing a problem here?
plenty of people live under the flightpath for the airport, what is the problem there?

They are all annoying. In any case I was responding to the the idea that a public call to prayer is as annoying as the Angelus - your statement. Clearly factually incorrect.

ancapailldorcha · 15-05-2018 10:03AM

I don't see a problem as long as the taxpayer isn't footing the bill.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 15-05-2018 10:10AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

We haven't really worked all that hard at anything. Western society evolved out of centuries of war between countries, and I don't agree for a minute with your perspective that I live in a tolerant, liberal society. Everyone agreeing to live in a certain way while excluding anyone from society which they feel would threaten their way of life is neither liberal nor tolerant.

You're ignoring the fact that it wasn't ideology was responsible for our past, it was the people who held an ideology and wanted to promote it, no different than you wanting to promote the idea that we live in a liberal and tolerant society as long as everyone agrees to live by our rules and standards. Had it not been for the fact that we actually don't live in a liberal and tolerant society, those people who committed heinous acts would still be committing heinous acts. We put a stop to that kind of behaviour because we weren't going to tolerate it any more that those people had the freedom to commit heinous acts. We're not exposing ourselves to anything "again", there will always be people in any society who commit heinous acts, and in an attempt to prevent them from doing so, we limit their freedom to do so. This is a constant and ongoing and evolving process. If it wasn't, we wouldn't enjoy the freedom that we do enjoy, and we'd be a backward shìthole which people would want to escape from.

What's more worrying is the idea that there are people who exist who want to impose their will on other people, but don't want those people to enjoy any of the good things about living in what they like to call a liberal and tolerant society. You don't appear to have paid attention in history class when they were teaching about how many countries in Europe colonised other countries and extracted all their resources in return for centuries of exploitation. When people from those countries want to come to Europe, suddenly - "Oh no, we can't be having that". I have no doubt those people didn't know what hit them when they were invaded and colonised either, but I don't imagine it was all that pleasant to be forced to live in a tolerant and liberal society where they, the natives, suffered terribly at the hands of people who imagined themselves to be more enlightened.

Social evolution.

You seem to be opposed to the idea of “tolerant and liberal”. It’s nice to see some truth about multiculturalism. I’ve long thought that liberal ideas on free speech etc. cant really survive multiculturalism. I think that’s a loss but if it’s the price of social stability I suppose we have to have it.

AfterLife · 15-05-2018 10:12AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What other countries pour money into religious and cultural projects in other countries?

Irish people have been giving money to missionaries for years. The Doctor that is funding this mosque isn't looking for state funding but rather funding from his mates. No different to our own missionaries.

corner of hells · 15-05-2018 10:13AM

Mackerel and Avocado Sandwich wrote: »

I used to work beside the mosque in Clonskeagh years ago and on Fridays you could go there to eat. Really delicious food for cheap and friendly people.

Shhh , will ya.
You're feckin' up the thread.

topper75 · 15-05-2018 10:14AM

I'm not great at finding stats but I know what I see in front of me in the street. In the two cities I'm most familiar with Lim and Dub, the volume of people in obvious muslim attire has jumped a lot in this decade.

Why are they all coming here? Is there a trade in which they specialise that is experiencing growth here a la the Irish working as navvies in the UK etc.?

corner of hells · 15-05-2018 10:17AM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm not great at finding stats but I know what I see in front of me in the street. In the two cities I'm most familiar with Lim and Dub, the volume of people in obvious muslim attire has jumped a lot in this decade.

Why are they all coming here? Is there a trade in which they specialise that is experiencing growth here a la the Irish working as navvies in the UK etc.?

Maybe they like coming here because we're easy going and tolerant

AfterLife · 15-05-2018 10:18AM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm not great at finding stats but I know what I see in front of me in the street. In the two cities I'm most familiar with Lim and Dub, the volume of people in obvious muslim attire has jumped a lot in this decade.

Why are they all coming here? Is there a trade in which they specialise that is experiencing growth here a la the Irish working as navvies in the UK etc.?

The lad funding the mosque came here to be a neurosurgeon. You would have to ask the rest.

Sile Na Gig · 15-05-2018 10:23AM

The one near UCD was great when I was a poor student. Excellent no frills canteen with amazing healthy food, better than the high carb slop they served on campus. The supermarket was fantastic too, staff were always friendly and respectful despite me being a grungy looking young wan. They always had a big shindig for Eid and were only delighted to have secular people in for a nosy/to experience their culture.

The school kind of creeped me out...as much as any kind of religious schooling, including my own, did. I think that religion and education should be independent but good luck untangling that...

quintana76 · 15-05-2018 10:31AM

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

A conservative male, I welcome our new Muslim friends. I intend to convert so I can reap the benefits of Islam: can have multiple wives, will no longer be bound by political correctness, can say and do as I please safe in the knowledge I can use my minority privilege as a get of jail card.

Can beat, assault and oppress women and feminists will defend my right to do so.

If I decide to commit an act of terror, liberals will brush it under the carpet as the desperate actions of a 'mentally ill lone wolf' who felt alienated from society.

Oh yes, it will be good.

On a serious note, I don't believe all Muslims are bad people, not at all. Just that we are probably not importing the best and brightest and we really should avoid the same mistakes as continental Europe.

It is not the people that are the problem but the level of their adherance to the religion. It can regularly lead decent people astray and can give justification for the actions of psychopaths. It is a matter of how seriously it is taken by the believer. ( the actions of the founder hardly being a template for peace, love and understanding). For a lot of people it is not a problem but for some....It is.

Plans for large-scale Dublin Mosque get green light

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