Half of all TD's are millionaires

lightspeed · 13-05-2018 11:54PM #1

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-half-of-irelands-tds-are-millionaires-and-heres-how-much-theyre-worth-36901002.html

Well the gravy train is very much full steam ahead. Why do the pensions tds receive have to be so high?

If there was an alternative party that wasnt far left and wanted to implement real reform (drain the swamp), would you vote for it?

It seems people will always vote for a party their family has always voted in or vote based on parish politics.

eeguy · 13-05-2018 11:58PM

Having assets worth millions doesn't really make you a millionaire.

The study doesn't factor in mortgages and debts.

Jimmy Dags · 13-05-2018 11:58PM

What’s the weather for the week op?

mikemac2 · 14-05-2018 12:04AM

gold-plated public service pensions

Independent group bingo. They just love this phrase

sabat · 14-05-2018 12:04AM

I was actually surprised that the figures were that low; if you look at the UK or US parliaments, representatives worth 10s of millions or more are common enough.

Conservatory · 14-05-2018 12:07AM

You can join a political party. Nothing stopping you.
Then spend ten or so years working locally in football teams and charities. Start working your way through other party members.
Once you have the backing run for a top job.
Then magically become a millionaire it’s not rocket science I’m still amazed how few of us do it.

JohnMc1 · 14-05-2018 12:08AM

lightspeed wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-half-of-irelands-tds-are-millionaires-and-heres-how-much-theyre-worth-36901002.html

Well the gravy train is very much full steam ahead. Why do the pensions tds receive have to be so high?

If there was an alternative party that wasnt far left and wanted to implement real reform (drain the swamp), would you vote for it?

It seems people will always vote for a party their family has always voted in or vote based on parish politics.

I always thought that there should be Term Limits. It would cut down on alot of corruption.

I'll probably vote for the National Party the next election. FF and FG are the exact same as the Democrats and Republicans in the US. Two halves of the same coin.

jimmycrackcorm · 14-05-2018 12:12AM

JohnMc1 wrote:

I'll probably vote for the National Party the next election. FF and FG are the exact same as the Democrats and Republicans in the US. Two halves of the same coin.

Can't say they are the same when FF weaseled out of the water charges after being the party that first proposed them.

Anthracite · 14-05-2018 12:12AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I always thought that there should be Term Limits. It would cut down on alot of corruption.

I'll probably vote for the National Party the next election. FF and FG are the exact same as the Democrats and Republicans in the US. Two halves of the same coin.

That's the Irish fascist party, isn't it?

Yeah, we're in safe hands with them. :rolleyes:

kneemos · 14-05-2018 12:13AM

High achievers.

JohnnyFlash · 14-05-2018 12:14AM

Many of them would be successful high achievers in their professional lives before politics. Some of the usual moaners on the journal etc would prefer if TDs took a vow of poverty before entering their Dail seat. There’s far easier ways of making a 100k salary in Ireland.

Conservatory · 14-05-2018 12:14AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Can't say they are the same when FF weaseled out of the water charges after being the party that first proposed them.

You say weasled out of like it’s a bad thing. If they were more like Kim yong public opinion wouldn’t matter and we could push through any law we wanted. If only we had a dictatorship.

Pugzilla · 14-05-2018 12:15AM

Maybe you should move to North Korea if you want everyone to be paid the same.

JohnMc1 · 14-05-2018 12:15AM

Anthracite wrote: »

That's the Irish fascist party, isn't it?

Yeah, we're in safe hands with them. :rolleyes:

The Left calls anyone against their narrative a fascist [even though they're fascist in their own right] so I don't pay attention to that labeling nonsense.

As if we've really been great under FF/FG govts.

AllForIt · 14-05-2018 12:16AM

What you expect - ppl from working class backgrounds going into politics?

JohnnyFlash · 14-05-2018 12:18AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The Left calls anyone against their narrative a fascist [even though they're fascist in their own right] so I don't pay attention to that labeling nonsense.

As if we've really been great under FF/FG govts.

Is that little oddball, Barrett, the leader of the National Party? I’m no leftie but that lad is a jumped-up little fascist. Blaming everything on immigrants, women, and ‘liberals’. Liberals being anyone who doesn’t share his warped and angry view of the world.

Pugzilla · 14-05-2018 12:18AM

OP's future vision of Ireland.

Although it does remind me of Aldi/Lidl.

Hitman3000 · 14-05-2018 12:23AM

Most of those mentioned are millionaires solely by virtue of the non funded pension they will receive.

Anthracite · 14-05-2018 12:38AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The Left calls anyone against their narrative a fascist [even though they're fascist in their own right] so I don't pay attention to that labeling nonsense.

As if we've really been great under FF/FG govts.

What makes you think I'm "the left"? I can tell racist, nativist, reactionary, theocratic fascists when I see them, even if I lean to the right.

Pugzilla · 14-05-2018 12:55AM

Commie bastard

Pugzilla · 14-05-2018 12:56AM

Better dead than red

14-05-2018 01:01AM

"lightspeed wrote: »

...drain the swamp...

Bloody nonsense.

Can you not make your point without that rubbish?

FFS.

Maewyn Succat · 14-05-2018 01:33AM

Conservatory wrote: »

You can join a political party. Nothing stopping you.
Then spend ten or so years working locally in football teams and charities. Start working your way through other party members.
Once you have the backing run for a top job.
Then magically become a millionaire it’s not rocket science I’m still amazed how few of us do it.

Exactly. There are no qualifications needed to be a politician either. With the amount of people out there who seem to think they could do a better job than most politicians I'm surprised there aren't far more people trying to get into politics. After all most politicians do 'nothing ' anyway don't they?

Yer Da sells Avon · 14-05-2018 01:36AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The Left calls anyone against their narrative a fascist [even though they're fascist in their own right].

"People who don't drink tea... now they're the real tea drinkers"

Zebra3 · 14-05-2018 07:58AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Many of them would be successful high achievers in their professional lives before politics. Some of the usual moaners on the journal etc would prefer if TDs took a vow of poverty before entering their Dail seat. There’s far easier ways of making a 100k salary in Ireland.

I wonder how many of our TDs were actually successful high achievers before entering politics.

Inheriting wealth from daddy wouldn’t count on that front.

sbsquarepants · 14-05-2018 08:01AM

Half of all tds are millionaires

What are the other half? Gazillionaires?

murpho999 · 14-05-2018 08:41AM

Stupid article.

I'd be almost half a millionaire if you were to look at where I live but it's mortgaged to the hilt.

People really shouldn't be worried about these things, it achieves nothing but bitterness.

14-05-2018 08:43AM

The more the better if the money is earned honestly. Poor politicians are more corruptible.

dulpit · 14-05-2018 08:46AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The more the better if the money is earned honestly. Poor politicians are more corruptible.

That's the logic of a decent salary and high pension. You need to attract people to the job, and not just have people who can afford to stop working for a volatile job that could last a few months or years...

I think Marx even has it in his manifesto about decent pay for politicians...

14-05-2018 08:48AM

dulpit wrote: »

That's the logic of a decent salary and high pension. You need to attract people to the job, and not just have people who can afford to stop working for a volatile job that could last a few months or years...

I think Marx even has it in his manifesto about decent pay for politicians...

Yep.

Loads of people have this misconception that politicians and charity bosses should earn peanuts. By doing that, you're just leaving positions like that to the upper classes.

14-05-2018 09:13AM

I wonder if the trolling by the Independent and to a lesser extent other media has had its day, the vast majority of the population are too media savvy.

There was a valiant attempt on an RTE radio on a talk show on Sunday re Tony O Brian's pension but nobody would really bite.

Even some politicians have realised that the fake outrage is not doing them any good.

Half of all TD's are millionaires

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