8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

pitifulgod wrote: »

You might find the term DIY abortion to be uncomfortable but that's the reality of what many women have to do.

Particularly in unforseen teenage pregnancies the reality is even financial issues aside, likelihood they got a passport? Options are extremely limited, where do they turn to? Are they suicidal? Such a dangerous position we can allow daughters of our country to be put in.

For what? All to please the morals of someone who is lucky enough not to go through such circumstances seemingly.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

If parents give a child up for adoption, they are stating they are not fit to be parents. This can put any existing children, or future children at risk.

Also, how do you explain to EVERYONE AROUND YOU why you are growing larger, being pregnant, and then? Nothing. Especially if you already have kids.
Fair enough, if you want to do that, please do. But expecting someone to do it? Isn't that just a little perverse?

And also be judged and outcast by your community and friends for it. Which happened to a colleague of mine, after trying to hide the pregnancy, then it went up for adoption, the word behind her back was never anything positive about the decision. No “good for her, honoring life” or anything just how she was apparently a worthless deadbeat c*nt for not taking care of it herself. She was seventeen with a struggling single parent herself.

Why would anyone from either side of the campaign want to target maternity hospitals for campaigning.
Some No people were at fault for this before, then we had the Yes.
I don’t think it helps either side when they do this.

https://twitter.com/iaclown/status/994940915373563906?s=21

RobertKK wrote: »

Why would anyone from either side of the campaign want to target maternity hospitals for campaigning.
Some No people were at fault for this before, then we had the Yes.
I don’t think it helps either side when they do this.

https://twitter.com/iaclown/status/994940915373563906?s=21

I'm not keen on that either.

EDIT: Although targeting is a touch misleading. They're reacting to those yokes and their graphic imagery.

RobertKK wrote: »

Why would anyone from either side of the campaign want to target maternity hospitals for campaigning.
Some No people were at fault for this before, then we had the Yes.

Gives the impression on twitter they were out to counter act potential images of slaughter should they appear.

gctest50 wrote: »

https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/final-donation-for-man-whose-blood-helped-save-2-4-million-babies-20180511-p4zerp.html


James Harrison is extraordinary. His blood has helped save the lives of 2.4 million babies

In Ireland he wouldn't be allowed to donate, having received transfusions himself in the past....

RobertKK wrote: »

Why would anyone from either side of the campaign want to target maternity hospitals for campaigning.
Some No people were at fault for this before, then we had the Yes.
I don’t think it helps either side when they do this.

https://twitter.com/iaclown/status/994940915373563906?s=21

Looking into their background they are a group setup to block those graphic and obscene images the pro life lot have been displaying outside hospitals.
I think this was their launch and they wont be out there unless ICBR turn up. I know the Radical Queers are doing the same thing where they go to these ICBR protests and they drape flags etc over the banners

https://twitter.com/KAClifford/status/994572396748247040
http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/05/the-yes-campaigns-guardian-angels/

"The Lads" picture of the Waterford Co Councillors has hit a Clonmel FB page and its going into break down. Most for, a few god botherers saying what about the babbies but individuals making very good reasoning for Yes. I actually think Clonmel might go Yes. I'm very heartened by it. Repeal all the way, body autonomy for all.

Anyone know where you can get any prochoice car stickers?

erica74 wrote: »

Anyone know where you can get any prochoice car stickers?

Your local 4 choice group, merch for choice might have some either.

bootpaws wrote: »

Just be careful where you park if you get one, I've heard of cars being keyed/mirrors being broken from friends who had some.

Interestingly a few neighbours have Love Both stickers and have suffered no such property damage.

https://twitter.com/ElaineYoung94/status/995282380821876737

NuMarvel wrote: »

It's funny how it took people holding repeal signs for you to say something, and not the No campaigners with graphic and offensive medical imagery.

Exactly what I was going to post. Not a peep out of him about the antics of the antichoice side until now:pac:

New prochoice posters going up around Waterford, yellow background and something like "Vote Yes for dignity and equality".

Nettle Soup wrote: »

I don't think anyone has said that before on Boards.

RobertKK, I have to say I admire your resilience on this thread. I disagree with you but it takes courage to take a hammering and keep coming back for more.

I have to ask though - has your stance on the 8th and/or abortion changed in any way since these threads started? I mean, have you learned anything that is making you question your hard stance?
.

I have not changed my opinion from what I read or heard, it doesn’t change what is being proposed if Yes wins. I just can’t vote for something when it is something I disagree with. Some argue ‘it won’t affect you’, but it does, I never vote against my conscience as it is something I have to live with it, so I will vote with my conscience and whatever the outcome I will know my conscience is clear, because there would be no point in me voting yes and then acting ignorant as if I didn’t know what Yes would lead to in this case.
I know looking back on some votes in other referendums that I would change, but I know too that I did what I believed was best then and that is what made it the right decision then.

I don’t mind people disagreeing with me once they are respectful. I try my best to be towards people, can’t say I always achieve it but we all know how it feels when someone runs us down, it isn’t nice and just causes bigger issues. Most people are fine, I am not one to hold grudges and I take people as they come, but everyone has breaking points.
I don’t believe any of us should be taking disagreements from this thread and manifesting them elsewhere on the site. We are all human and we have different opinions and that is life.