"UnPC" "joke" goes pear shaped

cml387 · 10-05-2018 03:12PM

Just by coincidence I see UK Gold have started repeats of "Are you being served"

That's an entire term of "gender studies" material right there.

_Dara_ · 10-05-2018 03:48PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Wouldn't that simply be Sociology

Yes, and there are all kinds of subcategories in Sociology. Gender studies is often studied as a Masters as are other subcategories. And within the sociology field, clearly some academics specialise in certain areas, hence being a Professor of Subcategory.

I don't really what's wrong with there being no hard right answers either. The grey areas are interesting. I studied a hard science and it's a worthy subject but I don't really understand why hard sciences are so vaunted and why humanities are so looked down upon by so many.

TBH, you seem determined to indoctrinate you daughters in another way. Think my way or else. Mad. If you teach them critical thinking skills, they still might not agree with all your views.

Pat Mustard · 10-05-2018 04:07PM

cml387 wrote: »

Just by coincidence I see UK Gold have started repeats of "Are you being served"

I wonder if Mr. Humphries would have drawn the same flak for that comment?

10-05-2018 04:46PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

I don't really what's wrong with there being no hard right answers either. The grey areas are interesting. I studied a hard science and it's a worthy subject but I don't really understand why hard sciences are so vaunted and why humanities are so looked down upon by so many.
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I'd imagine it's the lack of defense... I studied Business Management and Motivational theory for teams after I got my Finance degree. Now, most of Business theory could be considered to be "soft", and difficult to prove, since so many of their assumptions are based on Psychology which has it's own issues to proving their research. However... We are supposed to be critical of Business theory. It's taken out of the classroom, applied in the real world and analysed to determine its effectiveness. It's held up and examined against so many layers of inspection from equality issues right through to time management.

Personally, while I'm interested in the whole area of Gender studies, it doesn't allow itself to be criticized. Any suggestion of critical thinking is shot down as sexism. There is no higher level of inspection beyond the "researchers" aka lecturers of Gender studies, and experts who come from Feminist movements or companies with a direct link to women's rights movements.

With Humanities, TBH, I'd consider there to be a degree of snobbery. Examination of principles in these areas, with criticism beyond the accepted manner tend to be met with "you just don't understand it".

Vladimir Poontang · 10-05-2018 05:02PM

EdEd wrote: »

Not at all.

Hot feminists are mythical creatures.

The norm is for them to resemble the creature from the black lagoon

elbyrneo · 10-05-2018 05:11PM

Horse walks into a bar.
Barman asks "Why the long face"
Horse sues Barman for offensive comment.
Horse now owns Bar.
Barman suing me for not using term "Bartender"

fullstop · 10-05-2018 05:18PM

ELM327 wrote: »

Is this what the world has coming to?
That joke wasn't even offensive, period.

Oh god, you said period. That'd offend her too

super_furry · 10-05-2018 05:20PM

elbyrneo wrote: »

Horse walks into a bar.
Barman asks "Why the long face"
Horse sues Barman for offensive comment.
Horse now owns Bar.
Barman suing me for not using term "Bartender"

Bar'tender' implies that the person involved is a 'tender' or 'gentle' person, such traits often ascribed to females.

I think you should check yourself and use the less problematic Pub-Person.

elbyrneo · 10-05-2018 05:22PM

super_furry wrote: »

Bar'tender' implies that the person involved is a 'tender' or 'gentle' person, such traits often ascribed to females.

I think you should check yourself and use the less problematic Pub-Person.

Humblest apologies. I'm considering becoming a mute. Best to be safe these days.

super_furry · 10-05-2018 05:23PM

elbyrneo wrote: »

Humblest apologies. I'm considering becoming a mute. Best to be safe these days.

Mute? Pretty ablest of you, isn't it?

Snickers Man · 10-05-2018 05:25PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Yes. Totally.

She should go off and get a ride for herself...

Here's how you do it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvrXoApmg9M

elbyrneo · 10-05-2018 05:28PM

super_furry wrote: »

Mute? Pretty ablest of you, isn't it?

I have been instructed by my gender neutral solicitor to restrict all future communications to the words "no" and "comment" in that precise order.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-05-2018 05:32PM

Fascists hate the sound of laughter.

Carlos Orange · 10-05-2018 05:40PM

Can't feel too bad for someone who went to a conference with gender studies professors at it.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-05-2018 05:41PM

For balance here’s a right wing administrator and “free speech fan” at Duke who gets not one but two barista fired from an on campus coffee shop because an “inappropriate” rap sing was playing when he was queuing. He’s gets into an argument with the serving barista (who has no control over the music). She’s black by the way.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/560003/?__twitter_impression=true

Carlos Orange · 10-05-2018 05:45PM

Wibbs wrote: »

+1 It's an enormous area of scientific interest, unfortunately as you say it's become "women's studies" and with a large percentage of politicised thought attached to it. It's essentially become a feminist course/field. And it's a pity.

Has it not always been a feminist course/field?

10-05-2018 05:50PM

It's official folks, the world is heading over a cliff. The stupid have taken over. Make the most of your existence in this completly joyless gulag controlled on the whim of imbeciles

The Bishop Basher · 10-05-2018 06:27PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

The problem is as long as people bow down and apologise - it gives them ammo and validity.

REFUSE to apologise, thats the only way to beat this, then others will follow.

I agree..

Find at least 1 illiberal to offend every day.
Remind them that being offended is a choice
Let them know that you don't care that they've chosen to be offended
Then offend them again.

If we all keep doing this maybe they'll eventually get the message and **** off with their PC bolloxology.

wexie · 10-05-2018 06:38PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

For balance here’s a right wing administrator and “free speech fan” at Duke who gets not one but two barista fired from an on campus coffee shop because an “inappropriate” rap sing was playing when he was queuing. He’s gets into an argument with the serving barista (who has no control over the music). She’s black by the way.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/560003/?__twitter_impression=true

Last week, Larry Moneta, Duke’s vice president of student affairs, stopped into his regular coffee shop in the student center, Joe Van Gogh, for a hot tea and a vegan muffin.

.......That's a brilliant way of introducing a humourless ****er right there...

I'd love to know if there has ever, anywhere in the world, been a case of someone coming in for a breakfast roll or a bacon sangich to get offended by whatever music was playing.

My guess would be a firm no

super_furry · 10-05-2018 06:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's official folks, the world is heading over a cliff. The stupid have taken over. Make the most of your existence in this completly joyless gulag controlled on the whim of imbeciles

Meanwhile back in the real world, it's quite a nice evening out there and I might even pop into the beer garden for a quick one or two on the way home.

10-05-2018 06:53PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

For balance here’s a right wing administrator and “free speech fan” at Duke who gets not one but two barista fired from an on campus coffee shop because an “inappropriate” rap sing was playing when he was queuing. He’s gets into an argument with the serving barista (who has no control over the music). She’s black by the way.

Where's the balance?

All I see is a man arrogant with his position. I could point you at plenty of those of both genders, especially when we reach the levels of expensive Higher education, or "the Arts". I'm confused, as how that balances with the Gender Studies lecturer.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-05-2018 06:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where's the balance?

All I see is a man arrogant with his position. I could point you at plenty of those of both genders, especially when we reach the levels of expensive Higher education, or "the Arts". I'm confused, as how that balances with the Gender Studies lecturer.

I’m confused that you’re confused.

Mrsmum · 10-05-2018 07:00PM

At first I though geez I wouldn't like that comment in a lift either but thanks to Seamus for explaining. It completely changes the context of the comment which was basically a light hearted harmless joke. However I think he was very unwise to write that letter to her. What he said in it was never going to cool the temperature, only rile her more, and make himself look like he was harassing her, not the cleverest thing to do when you are under investigation.

mickrock · 10-05-2018 08:53PM

In the lift he should have said: "Ladies' lingerie. They have a sale on. Knickers are down."

Then she might have seen the fanny side.

Archeron · 10-05-2018 09:27PM

wexie wrote: »

.......That's a brilliant way of introducing a humourless ****er right there...

I'd love to know if there has ever, anywhere in the world, been a case of someone coming in for a breakfast roll or a bacon sangich to get offended by whatever music was playing.

My guess would be a firm no

I was once mildly perturbed by Bjork while buying a jambon, does that count?

biko · 10-05-2018 09:28PM

10-05-2018 10:41PM

super_furry wrote: »

Meanwhile back in the real world, it's quite a nice evening out there and I might even pop into the beer garden for a quick one or two on the way home.

I hope your not driving?