Our major issue as a country

Dr_serious2 · 06-05-2018 08:22PM #1

Housing, and the lack of it, should be the major issue in Ireland at this moment. People are being crucified by a lack of supply and spiralling rents. Instead of tackling this massive problem, which is destroying thousands of younger people financially, we are focusing on gender neutral toilets, identity politics and political correctness, copying the Americans as usual. If any of the left wing parties had any sense they would ditch the social issues after the referendum, at least for a while, and concentrate on the mismanagement of the housing crisis by this incompetent government. Of course they won't and will probably concentrate on free gender reassignment for teenagers or some such notion that they think is more fashionable.

kneemos · 06-05-2018 08:26PM

Those are some bizzare connections.

corner of hells · 06-05-2018 08:27PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Housing, and the lack of it, should be the major issue in Ireland at this moment. People are being crucified by a lack of supply and spiralling rents. Instead of tackling this massive problem, which is destroying thousands of younger people financially, we are focusing on gender neutral toilets, identity politics and political correctness, copying the Americans as usual. If any of the left wing parties had any sense they would ditch the social issues after the referendum, at least for a while, and concentrate on the mismanagement of the housing crisis by this incompetent government. Of course they won't and will probably concentrate on free gender reassignment for teenagers or some such notion that they think is more fashionable.

Are you just making a statement or asking a question ?
If it's a question , I'll have a kebab and chips .

Mint Sauce · 06-05-2018 08:28PM

I still dont get this Gender Neutral Toilet thing. Is that just not a Uni Sex Toilet.

Dr_serious2 · 06-05-2018 08:28PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Are you just making a statement or asking a question ?
If it's a question , I'll have a kebab and chips .

I am making a statement that you are free to agree with, disagree with or ignore.

OldMrBrennan83 · 06-05-2018 08:29PM

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corner of hells · 06-05-2018 08:33PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I still dont get this Gender Neutral Toilet thing. Is that just not a Uni Sex Toilet.

It's a toilet with no gearstick.

06-05-2018 08:36PM

OP... what are you proposing to do about the situation?

Apart from the commitment of posting to boards

TheValeyard · 06-05-2018 08:38PM

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Dr_serious2 · 06-05-2018 08:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

OP... what are you proposing to do about the situation?

Apart from the commitment of posting to boards

Vote for a politician who wants to tackle the real issues, if such a politician exists.

Bubbaclaus · 06-05-2018 08:41PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I still dont get this Gender Neutral Toilet thing. Is that just not a Uni Sex Toilet.

I've 2 of those in my house.

Fann Linn · 06-05-2018 08:43PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Vote for a politician who wants to tackle the real issues, if such a politician exists.

And that's where the problem lies.

colm_mcm · 06-05-2018 08:46PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Housing, and the lack of it, should be the major issue in Ireland at this moment. People are being crucified by a lack of supply and spiralling rents. Instead of tackling this massive problem, which is destroying thousands of younger people financially, we are focusing on gender neutral toilets, identity politics and political correctness, copying the Americans as usual. If any of the left wing parties had any sense they would ditch the social issues after the referendum, at least for a while, and concentrate on the mismanagement of the housing crisis by this incompetent government. Of course they won't and will probably concentrate on free gender reassignment for teenagers or some such notion that they think is more fashionable.

We’re spending the money that should be spent on building houses on gender neutral toilets? You can’t get a builder because they’re too busy rearranging public toilets?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 06-05-2018 08:50PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Vote for a politician who wants to tackle the real issues, if such a politician exists.

We've been trying to do that for decades. Good luck with it.

Pherekydes · 06-05-2018 08:53PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Housing, and the lack of it, should be the major issue in Ireland at this moment. People are being crucified by a lack of supply and spiralling rents. Instead of tackling this massive problem, which is destroying thousands of younger people financially, we are focusing on gender neutral toilets, identity politics and political correctness, copying the Americans as usual. If any of the left wing parties had any sense they would ditch the social issues after the referendum, at least for a while, and concentrate on the mismanagement of the housing crisis by this incompetent government. Of course they won't and will probably concentrate on free gender reassignment for teenagers or some such notion that they think is more fashionable.

The funny thing is it's the left wingers, the liberals and the SJWs who are the ones trying to do anything about any of these issues. The other side are more concerned with Apple getting away with paying no taxes, the church getting away without paying reparations and retired elites getting paid their fantastic pensions.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 08:53PM

The housing crisis could be solved tomorrow if they wanted. Relax building standards, remove VAT and other costs associated with building, tax vacant land and restore tax relief for renters. Not a chance this will happen, the left want to tax everything even more and the right are more than happy with the status quo.

amcalester · 06-05-2018 08:59PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The housing crisis could be solved tomorrow if they wanted. Relax building standards, remove VAT and other costs associated with building, tax vacant land and restore tax relief for renters. Not a chance this will happen, the left want to tax everything even more and the right are more than happy with the status quo.

Large scale building won’t happen until all those voters are no longer in negative equity.

More votes in increasing property prices than housing the homeless.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 09:01PM

amcalester wrote: »

Large scale building won’t happen until all those voters are no longer in negative equity.

More votes in increasing property prices than housing the homeless.

Absolutely - simply pointing out that solutions are there but no one is voting for them. I've another 25% I need prices to increase to royally screw the millennial that buys my boom **** up.

JohnMc1 · 06-05-2018 09:03PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I still dont get this Gender Neutral Toilet thing. Is that just not a Uni Sex Toilet.

It is, but calling it Gender Neutral toilets let's the Leftists believe they're actually fighting for something that doesn't already exist. The Left never let reality get in the way of their virtue signalling.

Dr_serious2 · 06-05-2018 09:03PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

The funny thing is it's the left wingers, the liberals and the SJWs who are the ones trying to do anything about any of these issues. The other side are more concerned with Apple getting away with paying no taxes, the church getting away without paying reparations and retired elites getting paid their fantastic pensions.

Come off it. Dublin City Council, the most left wing council in the country, is too busy discussing Bob Geldof, Dublin banners on the ha'penny bridge and whether to fly the Palestinian or Catalonian flag on our national buildings to bother about the housing crisis in their city. Meanwhile John Halligan and Finian McGrath are going to North Korea to broker world peace. Lefties are always more interested in international issues over which they have next to no nfluence that the crises on their own doorstep.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 09:06PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Come off it. Dublin City Council, the most left wing council in the country, is too busy discussing Bob Geldof, Dublin banners on the ha'penny bridge and whether to fly the Palestinian or Catalonian flag on our national buildings to bother about the housing crisis in their city. Meanwhile John Halligan and Finian McGrath are going to North Korea to broker world peace. Lefties are always more interested in international issues over which they have next to no nfluence that the crises on their own doorstep.

Right wing is gonna do you no favours either. Free market me lado. Earn more, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

amcalester · 06-05-2018 09:07PM

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

Come off it. Dublin City Council, the most left wing council in the country, is too busy discussing Bob Geldof, Dublin banners on the ha'penny bridge and whether to fly the Palestinian or Catalonian flag on our national buildings to bother about the housing crisis in their city. Meanwhile John Halligan and Finian McGrath are going to North Korea to broker world peace. Lefties are always more interested in international issues over which they have next to no nfluence that the crises on their own doorstep.

DCC actually voted to reduce the LPT by the maximum allowed, money that could have been used to alleviate the housing shortage.

Then they (the councilors) have the gall to blame the government for a lack of funding.

The mind boggles.

JohnMc1 · 06-05-2018 09:07PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Right wing is gonna do you no favours either. Free market me lado. Earn more, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

Capitalism has done more to raise people out of poverty than Socialism has.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 09:09PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Capitalism has done more to raise people out of poverty than Socialism has.

The issue with Socialism is it needs a strong capitalist base. I don't disagree, however if you want a capitalist policy we have one, so I don't understand what the OP is complaining about. Government, local or otherwise can deal with more than one (non) issue at a time.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 09:11PM

amcalester wrote: »

DCC actually voted to reduce the LPT by the maximum allowed, money that could have been used to alleviate the housing shortage.

Then they (the councilors) have the gall to blame the government for a lack of funding.

The mind boggles.

And force up rents, and put pressure on older people, and most importantly squeeze the voting middle class a bit more - loser all round politically.

Try_harder · 06-05-2018 09:14PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The housing crisis could be solved tomorrow if they wanted. Relax building standards, remove VAT and other costs associated with building, tax vacant land and restore tax relief for renters. Not a chance this will happen, the left want to tax everything even more and the right are more than happy with the status quo.

Relax building standards??? Have we not learned from our very recent history???

Developers are just hoarding land banks til building becomes sufficiently profitable for them, we need to build more houses, and if the state should do it, so be it!

Gonad · 06-05-2018 09:15PM

Housing is this countries biggest shame.

All we have is land on this island. We could build 50 thousand houses and solve this crisis whilst getting the economy moving in no time .

But they won’t do it and they are crippling us as young people trying to make ism sort of decent life for ourselves .

Google David McWilliams ‘how we could solve the housing crisis !

06-05-2018 09:15PM

Yeah like remember when all those leftists took over the Apollo House demanding more gender neutral toilets! Oh wait no, they were highlighting homelessness. And I wonder what Boards' resident right wing types had to same about it back then? I'm sure they were 100% behind them, because it's not like the right wingers only ever use homelessness to bash left wing groups or immigrants, they really do care about it don't they

timzil · 06-05-2018 09:17PM

Why is it that whenever the issue of the housing crisis is raised that it is always the supply side ie lack of housing that is the issue. What about the demand side. You know the old mass immigration drastic increasing the demand for property.

Samuel T. Cogley · 06-05-2018 09:17PM

Try_harder wrote: »

Relax building standards??? Have we not learned from our very recent history???

Developers are just hoarding land banks til building becomes sufficiently profitable for them, we need to build more houses, and if the state should do it, so be it!

We need a broad range of housing including smaller, profitable to build apartments. I spent 10 years with the wife in a 40sq m. place and it was absolutely fine, I just didn't keep a load of ****e around the place. I'm now in a 100sq m Semi and it feels like a palace. People need to get out of the mind set that they need 200sqm for a family home, and that families can't be raised in, decent sized, apartments in urban locations.

Bredabe · 06-05-2018 09:17PM

Inability to think critically and independently, issues around spelling and most worryingly numeracy.

Bullying and lack of compassion, bullyingly to make each of us the same as the other, compassion as it requires ppl to think outside of themselves and that has not been that I can see, been taught to children since before the boom.

Acceptance of bad behaviour, cute who*e syndrome and begrudgery, lack of acceptance of ppl or situations that are different.

Our major issue as a country

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