Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Dr_Colossus · 27-04-2018 11:44AM

Witnessed a close pass/clip this morning shortly after exiting the Phoenix Park. Just after the Infirmary Road junction a white Hyundai bull dozed through dangerously close to the cyclist 50m in front. So close in fact he hit him with his wing mirror which folded inwards, cyclist did well to stay upright. Driver continued on up the keys and only had a partial reg so thought I'd get the rest if caught in traffic. Sure enough he was a few hundred meters further up trying to turn right over the first bridge. I stopped on the left to note the reg and driver left the filter lane to transverse two lanes of traffic to have a go at me. Aggressive driver with no remorse and traffic was light so early in the morning so no need for such dangerous driving.

Incident reported now anyway whatever may come of it.

DaveyDave · 27-04-2018 06:21PM

Fair play for reporting it. Is that the first bridge up towards Thomas St? If so, moving over two lanes is absolutely absurd, it's a fairly wide road.

I hope you emphasised this was a hit and run when you reported it. Just because he wasn't hurt and knocked over doesn't make it any less severe. Scary to think someone could hit a person and go about their business. These people change when they're in cars. You go to point out their lights aren't on or something to be courteous and they have a go at you. It's like a psychotic nerve turns on behind the wheel and they're on the offensive.

Take a picture of a reg and someone would probably get out and push you over then get back in the car and drive away.

sy_flembeck · 27-04-2018 06:29PM

Left hook in Bray. A junction I've used hundreds of times without a single issue. What the edited video doesn't show is the close pass a couple of hundred metres previous or the fact that he had to mount the pavement to get where he was.

When he went round the corner his window was already down for confrontation (which he got, obviously!) - he used the usual indicators on routine. so I've no doubt whatsoever this was a deliberate action. It can be seen in the read facing video how late the indicators went on (after I'd checked). It was lucky I had stopped in too high a gear or I'd have been further forward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApcrGqTQBvY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbXSJSy7dYs

BoardsMember · 28-04-2018 03:04PM

What an absolute w@nker. Stopped at lights, knows he's turning in 50 metres, let's bike get ahead, still overtakes to cut him off.

RacoonQueen · 28-04-2018 04:29PM

Cyclist down at Tickcnock this afternoon being attended to by fire brigade. Group of other cyclists with them and no car around that looked like it might have been involved, so hopefully nothing too serious.

AndrewJRenko · 28-04-2018 05:22PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Cyclist down at Tickcnock this afternoon being attended to by fire brigade. Group of other cyclists with them and no car around that looked like it might have been involved, so hopefully nothing too serious.

On the road or on the mountain?

magicbastarder · 28-04-2018 05:56PM

i guess on the road given the comment about no car obvious to the incident.

Tenzor07 · 28-04-2018 07:08PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

On the road or on the mountain?

It was on the road just before the turn in towards Ticknock, was an old Mondeo with it hazards on parked around the corner from the incident, perhaps someone attending to the person on the bicycle..not sure if it was involved with the incident, DFB responded first, looked bad so hope the person on the bike is ok...

RacoonQueen · 28-04-2018 07:41PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

On the road or on the mountain?

On Blackglen Road. Sorry, realised after I posted possibly unclear. I live in the 'Ticknock' estate there so call the general area Ticknock

RacoonQueen · 28-04-2018 07:43PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

It was on the road just before the turn in towards Ticknock, was an old Mondeo with it hazards on parked around the corner from the incident, perhaps someone attending to the person on the bicycle..not sure if it was involved with the incident, DFB responded first, looked bad so hope the person on the bike is ok...

Was sorry I didn't stop after I got in to see if any of the other lads needed anything. Was in the car when I passed and didn't want to get in the way if I walked back up. Hard to know what to do in situations like that as DFB already there so not sure whether to 'intrude' or not.

AndrewJRenko · 29-04-2018 11:24AM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Hard to know what to do in situations like that as DFB already there so not sure whether to 'intrude' or not.

In general, if the emergency services are on site, a bystander isn't going to help much, and risks getting in the way, or causing another incident through bad parking or whatever.

RacoonQueen · 29-04-2018 12:00PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

In general, if the emergency services are on site, a bystander isn't going to help much, and risks getting in the way, or causing another incident through bad parking or whatever.

Yah thats why I didn't pull into the parking or go back up...I did think afterwards I could have offered to like take the bike somewhere for them or something, or bring it in until someone could collect so they could get off on their way etc. Anyway, I've searched for news on this and no garda presence at the scene so hopefully cyclist didn't come down too hard. Never nice to pass any accident but heart skipped a couple of beats when I realised it was a cyclist down, especially with how dangerous it can be on that stretch.

selwyn froggitt · 29-04-2018 05:06PM

Happened upon an insane piece of driving this morning.
Four of us out early and heading for Millstreet,beautiful day.
Just a couple of km’s from Dripsey on a really quiet country lane/boreen.The road runs adjacent to the Dripsey river,cycling towards an S bend in single file with a hump back bridge over the river (completely blind bend and wide enough for one car)
Car comes from behind at speed just as we are reaching the bridge and attempts to pass us on the bridge itself and nearly cleans out two of my friends.
****íng insane manouvere passenger window down and shouting at us,all this at 8.30 on a Sunday morning.
I told him to pull over but he just sped off,I have his registration on my rear camera,is it worth reporting?
A couple of kids car seats in the back (empty) poor sods

Pinch Flat · 29-04-2018 05:37PM

Usual nut cases out in their cars this morning. Nearly getting t boned at a mini roundabout on the way to the rathoath gaa Tour of Meath at about 8.15 was an opener for 10. Overtaking on single / double continuous lines, into oncoming traffic and around bends / over bumps in the road. All pretty normal at this stage. Crazy speeds. Close passes. I’m immune to it at this stage.

Had about 3 or 4 drivers in the space of a few minutes overtake us, roll down their passenger windows and roar abuse while passing a group of us heading from Dunshaughlin to rathoath. One motorist thought it’d be a good idea to lean on the horn while overtaking us and swerve in suddenly at the top of the group.

What topped it off was some clown drawing up song side two of us heading home, cycling 2 abreast and causing absolutely no issues at bracetown near clonee. Red faced, veins in his neck bulging with rage while roaring at us, paying little attention to the road in front of us (there’s traffic calming there) and the oncoming traffic. I told him it was legal to cycle two abreast, to shut the fook up and keep driving. His partner / wife looked mortified and didn’t know where to look. This particular example stopped at the red lights at the road works at bracetown industrial estate. He was getting out of his car when I drew along side, but thought twice (I’m a large chap) and got back in, continuing to abuse us from the safety of his vehicle. Pretty amazing display really. I just repeated “its legal” (cycling two abreast). Must have repeated it about 20 times until he eventually shut up. We both waited at the red, then waved him on sarcastically - I’m sure it was something important like a breakfast roll or the Sunday papers that we were delaying him from. Going mad I hadn’t the bike camera with me - it was out of battery this morning.

Sunday morning cycling in Ireland. The new norm in our car dominated society.

Rechuchote · 29-04-2018 06:23PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Red faced, veins in his neck bulging with rage while roaring

Working on the heart attack…

Unknown Soldier · 29-04-2018 07:07PM

selwyn froggitt wrote: »

Happened upon an insane piece of driving this morning.
Four of us out early and heading for Millstreet,beautiful day.
Just a couple of km’s from Dripsey on a really quiet country lane/boreen.The road runs adjacent to the Dripsey river,cycling towards an S bend in single file with a hump back bridge over the river (completely blind bend and wide enough for one car)
Car comes from behind at speed just as we are reaching the bridge and attempts to pass us on the bridge itself and nearly cleans out two of my friends.
****íng insane manouvere passenger window down and shouting at us,all this at 8.30 on a Sunday morning.
I told him to pull over but he just sped off,I have his registration on my rear camera,is it worth reporting?
A couple of kids car seats in the back (empty) poor sods

If it's as bad as you make it sound, then yes, do report him.

He could kill someone with that type of driving.

Kaisr Sose · 29-04-2018 09:01PM

Close one this afternoon coming down old long hill at speed. Out in the lane, going about 55/60 and next I hear a massive angry beep, followed by a large blue BMW car right alongside, to scare the crap out of me. Blaring the horn. he passes me at speed with about 50cm(max) to spare. Total idiot to do that. I got a partial reg. Had I caught him I would have needed restraining not to smack him.

ED E · 29-04-2018 10:53PM

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Close one this afternoon coming down old long hill at speed. Out in the lane, going about 55/60 and next I hear a massive angry beep, followed by a large blue BMW car right alongside, to scare the crap out of me. Blaring the horn. he passes me at speed with about 50cm(max) to spare. Total idiot to do that. I got a partial reg. Had I caught him I would have needed restraining not to smack him.

That is nuts. Hope you were at least on the new tarmac up there so not hopping potholes like was necessary two weeks ago.

Chiparus · 30-04-2018 06:12AM

selwyn froggitt wrote: »

Happened upon an insane piece of driving this morning.
Four of us out early and heading for Millstreet,beautiful day.
Just a couple of km’s from Dripsey on a really quiet country lane/boreen.The road runs adjacent to the Dripsey river,cycling towards an S bend in single file with a hump back bridge over the river (completely blind bend and wide enough for one car)
Car comes from behind at speed just as we are reaching the bridge and attempts to pass us on the bridge itself and nearly cleans out two of my friends.
****íng insane manouvere passenger window down and shouting at us,all this at 8.30 on a Sunday morning.
I told him to pull over but he just sped off,I have his registration on my rear camera,is it worth reporting?
A couple of kids car seats in the back (empty) poor sods

yes

cython · 30-04-2018 06:35AM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Cyclist down at Tickcnock this afternoon being attended to by fire brigade. Group of other cyclists with them and no car around that looked like it might have been involved, so hopefully nothing too serious.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

On the road or on the mountain?

magicbastarder wrote: »

i guess on the road given the comment about no car obvious to the incident.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

It was on the road just before the turn in towards Ticknock, was an old Mondeo with it hazards on parked around the corner from the incident, perhaps someone attending to the person on the bicycle..not sure if it was involved with the incident, DFB responded first, looked bad so hope the person on the bike is ok...

RacoonQueen wrote: »

On Blackglen Road. Sorry, realised after I posted possibly unclear. I live in the 'Ticknock' estate there so call the general area Ticknock

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Was sorry I didn't stop after I got in to see if any of the other lads needed anything. Was in the car when I passed and didn't want to get in the way if I walked back up. Hard to know what to do in situations like that as DFB already there so not sure whether to 'intrude' or not.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

In general, if the emergency services are on site, a bystander isn't going to help much, and risks getting in the way, or causing another incident through bad parking or whatever.

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Yah thats why I didn't pull into the parking or go back up...I did think afterwards I could have offered to like take the bike somewhere for them or something, or bring it in until someone could collect so they could get off on their way etc. Anyway, I've searched for news on this and no garda presence at the scene so hopefully cyclist didn't come down too hard. Never nice to pass any accident but heart skipped a couple of beats when I realised it was a cyclist down, especially with how dangerous it can be on that stretch.

To hopefully put minds at ease somewhat (@mods, please delete if inappropriate, but hopefully it's ok), if this was around 4pm on Saturday, there's a 99% certainty that it was my partner, as she came off on the descent there. The car was not involved (nor was any other vehicle), and from my understanding a lady who works as a nurse at St Vincents was passing and stopped with them, so likely that was her car as Tenzor07 suggested.

As noted, DFB attended first (and I have to say having had a friend paralysed in a cycling accident a few years ago it was reassuring to be put on the phone to one of them from the scene and be told that she was moving her legs, etc. to kudos to them), and she was taken away by ambulance soon after. The damage as catalogued so far is a fractured mandible, fractures in her eye socket, and a few missing teeth. She may have some other lesser injuries, or less visible fractures, around her body as well, but certainly the outcome could have been a lot worse. She's currently laid up in hospital waiting on a surgical team to get started fixing the damage.

@RacoonQueen, in case you're still worrying about the bike, it was collected by a clubmate's father who lives nearby and is in safe hands also! Not sure if he got it from the scene or from the fire station, but DFB had also offered to take it and store it.

marvin80 · 30-04-2018 08:10AM

cython wrote: »

To hopefully put minds at ease somewhat (@mods, please delete if inappropriate, but hopefully it's ok), if this was around 4pm on Saturday, there's a 99% certainty that it was my partner, as she came off on the descent there. T waiting on a surgical team to get started fixing the damage.

Very sorry to hear that, hope she's on the mend soon with no lasting damage.

RacoonQueen · 30-04-2018 09:09AM

cython wrote: »

To hopefully put minds at ease somewhat (@mods, please delete if inappropriate, but hopefully it's ok), if this was around 4pm on Saturday, there's a 99% certainty that it was my partner, as she came off on the descent there. The car was not involved (nor was any other vehicle), and from my understanding a lady who works as a nurse at St Vincents was passing and stopped with them, so likely that was her car as Tenzor07 suggested.

As noted, DFB attended first (and I have to say having had a friend paralysed in a cycling accident a few years ago it was reassuring to be put on the phone to one of them from the scene and be told that she was moving her legs, etc. to kudos to them), and she was taken away by ambulance soon after. The damage as catalogued so far is a fractured mandible, fractures in her eye socket, and a few missing teeth. She may have some other lesser injuries, or less visible fractures, around her body as well, but certainly the outcome could have been a lot worse. She's currently laid up in hospital waiting on a surgical team to get started fixing the damage.

@RacoonQueen, in case you're still worrying about the bike, it was collected by a clubmate's father who lives nearby and is in safe hands also! Not sure if he got it from the scene or from the fire station, but DFB had also offered to take it and store it.

That's exactly it. Thanks for the update. Was hoping someone who was there would see this and let us know how the cyclist was. Glad it's not (too) serious and hope she heals up well. Nearly came off myself in groups with wheels rubbing etc so many things like that can so easily happen and cause nasty injuries. Another reminder of how vulnerable we are out there.

Hope she's doing ok and gets back out on the road soon.

Pinch Flat · 30-04-2018 09:31AM

https://goo.gl/maps/HqJyYASykB52

Passing through this roundabout this morning. I'm in the bus lane, it merges with the other traffic lane and into a single lane around the roundabout.

Guy from behind ignores my signal (it's clearly visible from the shadow from my camera) that I'm running out of bus lane, proceeds to barge past, forcing me off the roundabout. Nearly came off the bike. It's always easy to catch up with these clowns given the monumental levels of traffic congestion in traffic congestion

I approach the car and tap on the window. He rolls his window down and he's immediately on the defensive.

"Hi, you nearly knocked me off my bike down there. I was signalling to pull out. I have it all on my camera". I also reminded him that if he's going to drive like a tw@t, it's best making sure the person on a bike to whom you're being a tw@t to doesn't have a camera.

"you gave the wrong signal mate, you weren't turning right". An interesting retort. I'm trying to get into his mind at this point. So I was going straight on, but needed to move right to merge. Surely a bus does something similar, or would he cut a bus up in a similar manner?

Driving a Nissan Tilda as well. These cars are obviously getting smarter, they can predict where a cycling in from of them is travelling and what his signal means. Roll on autonomous vehicles, help protect us from these brain deads.

site_owner · 30-04-2018 09:43AM

if you were in the bus lane, merging right, then you didn't have right of way and need to allow moving traffic to your right to clear before you merge. you stop at a yield sign until safe to merge.

i'm trying to picture it using the google map you posted so maybe i am wrong.

Pinch Flat · 30-04-2018 09:46AM

site_owner wrote: »

if you were in the bus lane, merging right, then you didn't have right of way and need to allow moving traffic to your right to clear before you merge. you stop at a yield sign until safe to merge.

i'm trying to picture it using the google map you posted so maybe i am wrong.

Traffic was coming from behind. He drew along side me and cut me up.

PaulieC · 30-04-2018 09:53AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

https://goo.gl/maps/HqJyYASykB52

Guy from behind ignores my signal (it's clearly visible from the shadow from my camera) that I'm running out of bus lane, proceeds to barge past, forcing me off the roundabout. Nearly came off the bike. It's always easy to catch up with these clowns given the monumental levels of traffic congestion in traffic congestion

It looks like you need to yield at the end of the bus lane and that the 'normal' lane has right of way. Signaling doesn't give you right of way (as I am tired of telling taxi drivers).

Maybe I am misunderstanding where you were when he drove past you.

AK55 · 30-04-2018 09:53AM

Was out on a group cycle in meath saturday morning. About ten of us cycling two abreast on a narrow
twisty country road . As we were coming up to a blind we were dangerously overtaken by another cycling group
also two abreast and about the same size.Thought this was very bad form and if a car had of come round the corner there would have been carnage. All because they like motorists couldnt wait a few seconds for a straight run.

Rechuchote · 30-04-2018 09:54AM

PaulieC wrote: »

It looks like you need to yield at the end of the bus lane and that the 'normal' lane has right of way. Signaling doesn't give you right of way (as I am tired of telling taxi drivers).

Maybe I am misunderstanding where you were when he drove past you.

Signalling doesn't give you right of way, but there are certain drivers who will speed up to pass someone out and cut them off. Not awfully legal…

PaulieC · 30-04-2018 09:57AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Signalling doesn't give you right of way, but there are certain drivers who will speed up to pass someone out and cut them off. Not awfully legal…

That's true, but it's not illegal either. Rude and stupid maybe, but not illegal.

yop · 30-04-2018 10:37AM

Yesterday was the worst day we'd had as a group on the road. 4 times we had cars passing with oncoming cars or motorbikes!! We weren't hanging around and the cars were not logged behind us for more than 20 seconds.
I have the reg of one little muppet but after the experience I had in reporting the one single car I have reported before, its a ball load of hassle to do it, as mad as that sounds.
What is wrong with people!!!

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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