Aldi Laptop

podgeandrodge · 28-04-2018 05:24PM #1

Maybe I shouldn't post as Bargain, it might be, but I can't decide :rolleyes:

https://www.aldi.ie/medion-14%22-full-hd-notebook/p/083785202477400

JDxtra · 28-04-2018 05:51PM

The CPU will break your heart.

duridian · 28-04-2018 06:16PM

JDxtra wrote: »

The CPU will break your heart.

Yep. It will smash it to Atoms®.
Especially with help from the flash storage.
Avoid.

padyjoe · 28-04-2018 06:41PM

Could be ok for very basic tasks. But it needs an extensive de-crápify and set up. If installed programs are kept to minimum, it could tick away for long. I'd not call it notebook, it's rather a tablet with a keyboard and more functionality.

TBH for that money is going 2nd hand is better option.

Capt'n Midnight · 28-04-2018 08:43PM

Compared to a 2015 mobile phone it's bigger, has a keyboard and runs windows.

If you are only using it for browsing get a tablet. Bluetooth keyboards are cheap enough if needed.

If you need windows but don't need all the pixels then note that the CPU is slower than a laptop with a Pentium P6100 which you could have got for the same money in 2011 (along with 3GB ram)
The difference is that if you have a P6100 you can replace it with a much faster i5-650m from ebay.co.uk for half nothing.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-560M-vs-Intel-Atom-x5-x5-Z8300

Intel® Atom® x5-Z8350 processor and Intel® HD graphics (up to 1.92 GHz and 2 MB Cache)
35.6cm (14") Full HD display
1920 x 1080 Pixel resolution
64 GB Flash memory
2 GB Memory

Asus X540L · 29-04-2018 12:09AM

Pile of turd

Inquitus · 29-04-2018 01:51PM

Aye you can get an i3 Laptop for an extra 50 yoyos which will be much faster all round.

Addle · 29-04-2018 04:23PM

What about the printer?
https://www.aldi.ie/canon-ts3150-wireless-printer/p/084002208518400

jimmycrackcorm · 29-04-2018 05:48PM

Addle wrote:

What about the printer?

When the one runs out it'll be cheaper to buy a new one

Capt'n Midnight · 29-04-2018 05:58PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

When the one runs out it'll be cheaper to buy a new one

Not quite.

Printer € 39.99

Standard Ink Cartridges Ink €26 + Delivery.

https://www.canon.ie/printers/pixma-ts3150-series/specifications/

Standard Ink Cartridges
PG-545 (Black)
CL-546 (Colour)
Optional XL Ink Cartridges

PG-545XL (Black)
CL-546XL (Colour)

podgeandrodge · 29-04-2018 06:24PM

Maybe it's just me but I think the pricing of printers is just warped. It couldn't be more environmentally unfriendly selling printers at a practically throwaway price. As suggested earlier, there are times when you can save money by getting a new printer which comes with ink. Crazy stuff and probably as much ends up in landfill as recycling.

Printers should be at least eur150 and ink should be a fraction of the price.

Oat23 · 29-04-2018 06:46PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but I think the pricing of printers is just warped. It couldn't be more environmentally unfriendly selling printers at a practically throwaway price. As suggested earlier, there are times when you can save money by getting a new printer which comes with ink. Crazy stuff and probably as much ends up in landfill as recycling.

Printers should be at least eur150 and ink should be a fraction of the price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHX6tHdQGiQ

hiphophead2003 · 29-04-2018 06:57PM

Atom, 2GB RAM (in 2018, may I add) and 64GB storage (less usable) for 250 euro

oof.

henryforde80 · 30-04-2018 02:35AM

A piece of crap. 2gb of ram is 6 years ago standard. cpu also crap.

save ur 200 and save another 150 for an i3 and at least 4gb of ram

Asus X540L · 30-04-2018 11:15AM

henryforde80 wrote: »

A piece of crap. 2gb of ram is 6 years ago standard. cpu also crap.

save ur 200 and save another 150 for an i3 and at least 4gb of ram

4gb of ram was standard when vista came out in 2007

henryforde80 · 30-04-2018 11:16AM

Asus X540L wrote: »

4gb of ram was standard when vista came out in 2007

My bad

:o

AlmightyCushion · 30-04-2018 05:02PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but I think the pricing of printers is just warped. It couldn't be more environmentally unfriendly selling printers at a practically throwaway price. As suggested earlier, there are times when you can save money by getting a new printer which comes with ink. Crazy stuff and probably as much ends up in landfill as recycling.

Printers should be at least eur150 and ink should be a fraction of the price.

Most ink cartridges that come with printers aren't full cartridges, they usually have a fraction of the capacity of the proper cartridges you buy. So, even if the cartridges are more expensive than the printer, it's still more expensive to chuck the printer and buy a new one instead of buying new cartridges.

Zardoz · 30-04-2018 06:02PM

Asus X540L wrote: »

4gb of ram was standard when vista came out in 2007

No ,it wasnt ,its only become standard in the last 5 years .
Most laptops nowadays ship with 4GB.

Asus X540L · 30-04-2018 06:26PM

Zardoz wrote: »

No ,it wasnt ,its only become standard in the last 5 years .
Most laptops nowadays ship with 4GB.

I remember buying an entry level vista laptop from Dell in 2007 that shipped with 4gb.

Still ran like poo

30-04-2018 06:31PM

Zardoz wrote: »

No ,it wasnt ,its only become standard in the last 5 years .
Most laptops nowadays ship with 4GB.

Which nobody in their right mind would buy without instantly doubling or quadrupling.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 30-04-2018 08:17PM

JayZeus wrote: »

Which nobody in their right mind would buy without instantly doubling or quadrupling.

4GB is more than adequate for most everyday tasks

hiphophead2003 · 30-04-2018 08:21PM

Asus X540L wrote: »

I remember buying an entry level vista laptop from Dell in 2007 that shipped with 4gb.

Still ran like poo

Maybe it was the CPU's fault?

30-04-2018 08:23PM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

4GB is more than adequate for most everyday tasks

No, it's not.

_Kaiser_ · 30-04-2018 08:55PM

Zardoz wrote: »

No ,it wasnt ,its only become standard in the last 5 years .
Most laptops nowadays ship with 4GB.

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

4GB is more than adequate for most everyday tasks

Nope.. 8GB has been standard for at least 3 years now. 16GB is rapidly becoming the new norm at the moment.

On the OP.. complete waste of money. Buy something better-specced second hand, or save a bit more and get something with at least a Core i3, 128GB storage and 8GB RAM

Sgt Pepper 64 · 30-04-2018 09:19PM

JayZeus wrote: »

No, it's not.

most laptops are sold with 4gb because that is perfectly adequate for most everyday tasks.
Windows 10, MS say that 2gb is required

the average user will open a few word docs or excel, have a few tabs open, stream videos like netflix, and maybe do a few photo edits, and wont play games

4gb handles all that perfectly, hell 2gb does!

obviously once you move in haeavy gaming or super large spreadsheets then more ram is needed because more data is required and quicker, otherwise it looks to your swap file..
play around with resource manager and see what i mean

30-04-2018 09:54PM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

most laptops are sold with 4gb because that is perfectly adequate for most everyday tasks.
Windows 10, MS say that 2gb is required

the average user will open a few word docs or excel, have a few tabs open, stream videos like netflix, and maybe do a few photo edits, and wont play games

4gb handles all that perfectly, hell 2gb does!

obviously once you move in haeavy gaming or super large spreadsheets then more ram is needed because more data is required and quicker, otherwise it looks to your swap file..
play around with resource manager and see what i mean

I started out in the IT industry almost 25 years ago, building Win 3.11 386's, then NT3.51 486/586 workstations, bullying BNC coax fed token ring networks into working with wonky Windows NT/DEC Alpha clusters hanging onto HSZ based storage arrays.

I still remember when frame relay was the norm for WAN client connections to allow amber screen terminals access a VAX back in the head office and when ISDN segmented lines were coupled with Mulltitech modem banks and Citrix Winframe 1.6/Metaframe 1.0 servers to give people a horn for working from home.

The point is, you can keep the lessons on what's needed/recommended/'works'. IT still pays the bills.
I've been on the receiving end of the complaints and have spent many wasted days dealing with 'issues' from underspec'd machines. Couldn't be arsed with it any more.

I haven't bothered myself by trying to run anything on a Windows machine with anything less than 8GB Ram in 10 years. Life is too f'n short. For the last 5 years, if it doesn't have 16GB of Ram, it's a waste of space as far as I'm concerned. My parents got an i5 Inspiron with 4GB of ram last summer. It's a slow ball-bag of a machine. The rep should be taken out and battered with a stick (I jest, mostly).

Their neighbours were ridden sideways by some scrote up in PC World in 'The Poark' and sent home with a lightened wallet and a dog of a HP laptop. Same BS, i5 and 4GB of Ram. SLOOOOOOOOOOOW, crappy machines. Both users now whinging at me about how they're not really any better than the 7-8 year old laptops they replaced. They're right. These machine are both dogs. Overpriced (700-800 euro kind of money we're talking) defectively specified dogs. 3 legged dogs with a blind eye and a dribbly bum-bum dogs. Real useless little mongrels.

I know I'm not the average user, but I can tell you now from dealing with the bollox average users face into, 4GB is NOT enough. In no time at all, they'll be experiencing the same degraded performance as ever and if they just plumped for a big chunk of ram in the first place...They wouldn't. More Ram, ALWAYS.

They just don't know any better.

I do. You do too. 8GB minimum recommended, upgradeable to 16GB ideally, every single time. An SSD and Windows 10 doesn't equal 'enough Ram'.

TLDR; 4GB is NOT enough Ram.

Alanstrainor · 30-04-2018 10:11PM

JayZeus wrote: »

I started out in the IT industry almost 25 years ago, building Win 3.11 386's, then NT3.51 486/586 workstations, bullying BNC coax fed token ring networks into working with wonky Windows NT/DEC Alpha clusters hanging onto HSZ based storage arrays.

I still remember when frame relay was the norm for WAN client connections to allow amber screen terminals access a VAX back in the head office and when ISDN segmented lines were coupled with Mulltitech modem banks and Citrix Winframe 1.6/Metaframe 1.0 servers to give people a horn for working from home.

The point is, you can keep the lessons on what's needed/recommended/'works'. IT still pays the bills.
I've been on the receiving end of the complaints and have spent many wasted days dealing with 'issues' from underspec'd machines. Couldn't be arsed with it any more.

I haven't bothered myself by trying to run anything on a Windows machine with anything less than 8GB Ram in 10 years. Life is too f'n short. For the last 5 years, if it doesn't have 16GB of Ram, it's a waste of space as far as I'm concerned. My parents got an i5 Inspiron with 4GB of ram last summer. It's a slow ball-bag of a machine. The rep should be taken out and battered with a stick (I jest, mostly).

Their neighbours were ridden sideways by some scrote up in PC World in 'The Poark' and sent home with a lightened wallet and a dog of a HP laptop. Same BS, i5 and 4GB of Ram. SLOOOOOOOOOOOW, crappy machines. Both users now whinging at me about how they're not really any better than the 7-8 year old laptops they replaced. They're right. These machine are both dogs. Overpriced (700-800 euro kind of money we're talking) defectively specified dogs. 3 legged dogs with a blind eye and a dribbly bum-bum dogs. Real useless little mongrels.

I know I'm not the average user, but I can tell you now from dealing with the bollox average users face into, 4GB is NOT enough. In no time at all, they'll be experiencing the same degraded performance as ever and if they just plumped for a big chunk of ram in the first place...They wouldn't. More Ram, ALWAYS.

They just don't know any better.

I do. You do too. 8GB minimum recommended, upgradeable to 16GB ideally, every single time. An SSD and Windows 10 doesn't equal 'enough Ram'.

Dude, who cares? Wtf. We're talking about a machine that costs 250quid. Most in that price range have 4GB of RAM or less. 4GB is grand, 2GB is a bit tight, but regardless this machine is pants.

30-04-2018 10:24PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Dude, who cares? Wtf. We're talking about a machine that costs 250quid. Most in that price range have 4GB of RAM or less. 4GB is grand, 2GB is a bit tight, but regardless this machine is pants.

WTF indeed. Sgt Pepper is trying to teach grandmother to suck eggs.

Anyway:

16GB, great. 8GB, pretty good. 4GB, not good. 2GB, pure crap.

On that machine, yeah, dirty underpants more like. Certainly not a bargain.

30-04-2018 11:19PM

JayZeus wrote: »

I started out in the IT industry almost 25 years ago, building Win 3.11 386's, then NT3.51 486/586 workstations, bullying BNC coax fed token ring networks into working with wonky Windows NT/DEC Alpha clusters hanging onto HSZ based storage arrays.

I still remember when frame relay was the norm for WAN client connections to allow amber screen terminals access a VAX back in the head office and when ISDN segmented lines were coupled with Mulltitech modem banks and Citrix Winframe 1.6/Metaframe 1.0 servers to give people a horn for working from home.

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beauf · 01-05-2018 01:10AM

It's not a laptop its a netbook. If you don't know the difference (and 90% of the replies on this thread don't) then don't get it.

The main issue with this netbook is that it should be about 130-150 euros and most netbooks have moved to 4gb of ram. You'll get a better netbook netbook online for slightly cheaper though not with a 3yr warranty.

One advantage this has over older faster cpu is that the graphics are better and will be able to play movies that an older cpu won't.

As someone said it's like a tablet or smartphone with a keyboard and mouse. I bought something similar about 2yrs ago for 150 and it's handy for throwing in a bag if I need something with a keyboard for some light tasks. Anything more and I use my main laptop.

I have a few older laptops with 2gb of ram and don't find it a problem. I wouldn't pay 250 for one without 4gb though.

beauf · 01-05-2018 01:26AM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

most laptops are sold with 4gb because that is perfectly adequate for most everyday tasks.
Windows 10, MS say that 2gb is required

the average user will open a few word docs or excel, have a few tabs open, stream videos like netflix, and maybe do a few photo edits, and wont play games

4gb handles all that perfectly, hell 2gb does!

obviously once you move in haeavy gaming or super large spreadsheets then more ram is needed because more data is required and quicker, otherwise it looks to your swap file..
play around with resource manager and see what i mean

You are right. Most people won't know what you are talking about. Or keep a lean machine.

Also most people can't tell the difference between a netbook and laptop. A net book only suits a Very narrow band of people who know what they are doing. But it's often sold as a cheap laptop when it isn't. Kind gave them an undeserved bad reputation.

I have a netbook and find it handy. Only issues I have with it is a slightly weird key layout for typing, and I'd like one with usb 3.0x2 and an bigger screen. Mine is 11" but a 14" would be perfect.

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