Garda making up numbers again

Brae100 · 28-04-2018 02:33AM #1

25,000 litres of beer seized by customs. Retail value placed at €105k, with a loss to revenue of €52k.

That equates to retail value of €4 per litre with revenue loss of €2 per litre. For beer.

If revenue are pulling in €2 per litre of beer, how can Lidl sell 500ml cans of beer for 89c?

https://www.joe.ie/news/smuggled-beer-revenue-dublin-624061

Rushden · 28-04-2018 02:41AM

Brae100 wrote: »

25,000 litres of beer seized by customs. Retail value placed at €105k, with a loss to revenue of €52k.

That equates to retail value of €4 per litre with revenue loss of €2 per litre. For beer.

If revenue are pulling in €2 per litre of beer, how can Lidl sell 500ml cans of beer for 89c?

https://www.joe.ie/news/smuggled-beer-revenue-dublin-624061

Since when are revenue the guards?

Brae100 · 28-04-2018 02:44AM

Rushden wrote: »

Since when are revenue the guards?

Garda, Revenue Officers..... all the same. Just proof that they also inflate numbers.

Brae100 · 28-04-2018 02:55AM

The thing is, they will get away with recording this as €52k saving for the exchequer, and that is a blatant lie. And they will get away with it.

Grayson · 28-04-2018 03:46AM

Not as bad when they confiscate a nodge and say it's enough for 10 joints. I'm never smoking with those stingy bastards.

cursai · 28-04-2018 03:54AM

Oi hayte de gourds coz I canna behave meself.

the_syco · 28-04-2018 03:54AM

Brae100 wrote: »

If revenue are pulling in €2 per litre of beer, how can Lidl sell 500ml cans of beer for 89c?

Because no-one smuggles cheap beer. You smuggle in the expensive stuff to sell off cheap.

DwightSchrute1 · 28-04-2018 04:04AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Garda, Revenue Officers..... all the same. Just proof that they also inflate numbers.

Try contacting Revenue officers should you ever find burglars in your house in the middle of the night and see if they are all the same.

Brae100 · 28-04-2018 04:10AM

sugarman wrote: »

If it has a retail value of €105k, that includes vat @23% and excise duty which is dependent of the alcohol content.

So VAT is what, roughly €24k there?

Then if we take Guinness as an example with 4.3% alcohol content, the excise is 55c a can.

So say 25k litres is 50k cans. Total excise is €27k 'ish?

Making total losses, €51k 'ish? Not all that far off.

Open to correction.

That's misleading fluff. Let's keep it simple. They placed a value of €4 per litre for beer. That is a grossly exaggerated estimate. Revenue do not extract €2 for every litre of beer sold. If they did, Lidl could not sell 500ml cans for 89c consistently.

kneemos · 28-04-2018 04:21AM

Brae100 wrote: »

That's misleading fluff. Let's keep it simple. They placed a value of €4 per litre for beer. That is a grossly exaggerated estimate. Revenue do not extract €2 for every litre of beer sold. If they did, Lidl could not sell 500ml cans for 89c consistently.

Roughly what a pub would sell it for.

28-04-2018 04:24AM

Brae100 wrote: »

That's misleading fluff. Let's keep it simple. They placed a value of €4 per litre for beer. That is a grossly exaggerated estimate. Revenue do not extract €2 for every litre of beer sold. If they did, Lidl could not sell 500ml cans for 89c consistently.

Selling cans of beer for 89c is possible. They sell them for that price. Pay the duty. Make a loss. They are called loss leaders.

Sam Quentin · 28-04-2018 04:31AM

Emmmmm because it wasn't Lidl beer!?

The Bishop Basher · 28-04-2018 06:34AM

DwightSchrute1 wrote: »

Try contacting Revenue officers should you ever find burglars in your house in the middle of the night and see if they are all the same.

Lol

That made me laugh..

What do you think would happen if you contacted the Gardai in this situation ?

Let’s just say the burglars will be well tucked up at home in their beds by the time the guards finally “get a car” and respond.

I’m not sure people in this country realise just how little help is actually there from the guards if and when they need it.

You’re on your own people..don’t wait for the Gardai to come and rescue you. They won’t.

Tell me how · 28-04-2018 06:43AM

Swanner wrote:

Iâ€™m not sure people in this country realise just how little help is actually there from the guards if and when they need it.

My car was damaged by someone who crashed in to it while it was parked outside my house. They fled the scene as were unlicensed, uninsured, etc.

I called the Gardai. They arrived to tell me they had picked up two guys they saw running along the footpath nearly 1.5km away.

5 days later, in the presence of Gardai I was handed E1,800 cash by the perpetrator to pay for repairs.

They couldn't have done their job better, in my view.

On topic. OP is drinking too much beer (lidl or otherwise) when posting.

Donald Trump · 28-04-2018 06:52AM

I knew one Guard who was fond of making up numbers

He told me he had a pension worth eleventy gazillion euros despite just sitting on his fat hole all day every day for years

actually, maybe those are actually real numbers...

The Bishop Basher · 28-04-2018 07:58AM

Tell me how wrote: »

I called the Gardai. They arrived to tell me they had picked up two guys they saw running along the footpath nearly 1.5km away.

You were incredibly lucky that there was a car in the area and that it was available.

Tell me how wrote: »

5 days later, in the presence of Gardai I was handed E1,800 cash by the perpetrator to pay for repairs.

And even luckier again that this person had €1800 in cash to give you..

A very fortunate series of events indeed.

Atoms for Peace · 28-04-2018 08:13AM

Grayson wrote: »

Not as bad when they confiscate a nodge and say it's enough for 10 joints. I'm never smoking with those stingy bastards.

How many nodges in a wodge?

corner of hells · 28-04-2018 08:59AM

Swanner wrote: »

You were incredibly lucky that there was a car in the area and that it was available.

And even luckier again that this person had €1800 in cash to give you..

A very fortunate series of events indeed.

Were we not bashing revenue ? Thread seems somewhat derailed ?

Bubbaclaus · 28-04-2018 09:03AM

OP must have done pass maths in the Leaving Cert

corner of hells · 28-04-2018 09:11AM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

OP must have done pass maths in the Leaving Cert

OP seems annoyed at everyone , Gardai , revenue , Lidl , himself , beer the list is endless.

McMurphy · 28-04-2018 09:15AM

Tell me how wrote: »

My car was damaged by someone who crashed in to it while it was parked outside my house. They fled the scene as were unlicensed, uninsured, etc.

I called the Gardai. They arrived to tell me they had picked up two guys they saw running along the footpath nearly 1.5km away.

5 days later, in the presence of Gardai I was handed E1,800 cash by the perpetrator to pay for repairs.

They couldn't have done their job better, in my view.

On topic. OP is drinking too much beer (lidl or otherwise) when posting.

Just another classic example of why I gave up 'going for a run' years ago.

Anyway, no sympathy for them - the joggy bastards.

Atoms for Peace · 28-04-2018 09:21AM

It's all part of the system, job figures , hospital waiting lists etc., gaming the system has become more important than actual results.

Tell me how · 28-04-2018 09:28AM

Swanner wrote:

You were incredibly lucky that there was a car in the area and that it was available.

And even luckier again that this person had â‚¬1800 in cash to give you..

Life is so much better when looked at through an optimistic lens.

You really should try it.

Brae100 · 29-04-2018 01:51AM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

OP must have done pass maths in the Leaving Cert

Sorry, can't let this pass. I got a B in higher level Maths back in the day (I should have got an A, but that's a different story). I won medals for Maths and got a scholarship to a top private school based on my previous math results. I was encouraged to pursue Pure Maths in Trinity by the best Math teacher in the country, Ollie Murphy.

My math is correct.

Try_harder · 29-04-2018 02:13AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Sorry, can't let this pass. I got a B in higher level Maths back in the day (I should have got an A, but that's a different story). I won medals for Maths and got a scholarship to a top private school based on my previous math results. I was encouraged to pursue Pure Maths in Trinity by the best Math teacher in the country, Ollie Murphy.

My math is correct.

Math???

Really bro?

pleas advice · 29-04-2018 02:26AM

There's only ONEEE, OLLIE MURPHY!

Brae100 · 29-04-2018 02:32AM

pleas advice wrote: »

There's only ONEEE, OLLIE MURPHY!

He the man. Best Math teacher ever.

Donald Trump · 29-04-2018 03:48AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Sorry, can't let this pass. I got a B in higher level Maths back in the day (I should have got an A, but that's a different story). I won medals for Maths and got a scholarship to a top private school based on my previous math results. I was encouraged to pursue Pure Maths in Trinity by the best Math teacher in the country, Ollie Murphy.

My math is correct.

That's a decent result. A B in honours maths is respectable. But would have put you among the lower level of entrants into that pure maths course. (For maths, and I also think some engineering, related subjects in Trinity you used to need the equivalent of a minimum of a B in honours maths in the LC to be eligible to be considered for a place).
It would be a disappointing score for someone who had received a scholarship in maths though - notwithstanding any mitigating circumstances. Particularly given the advantage of having this mythical best maths teacher in the country in a top private school.

Not singling you out. It's a decent and respectable result. It would be better than the majority of people could get.

Brae100 · 29-04-2018 03:56AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

That's a decent result. A B in honours maths is respectable. But would have put you among the lower level of entrants into that pure maths course. (For maths, and I also think some engineering, related subjects in Trinity you used to need the equivalent of a minimum of a B in honours maths in the LC to be eligible to be considered for a place).
It would be a disappointing score for someone who had received a scholarship in maths though - notwithstanding any mitigating circumstances. Particularly given the advantage of having this mythical best maths teacher in the country in a top private school.

Not singling you out. It's a decent and respectable result. It would be better than the majority of people could get.

Indeed. When I got my leaving results and only got the B, Ollie shook his head in disappointment. I'd let him and me down terribly. I was the northsider on the scholarship and he took me under his wing. But, there were extenuating circumstances. I had to leave school in April prior to the June exams to take up a job that I was offered and couldn't refuse.

Bubbaclaus · 29-04-2018 09:18AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Sorry, can't let this pass. I got a B in higher level Maths back in the day (I should have got an A, but that's a different story). I won medals for Maths and got a scholarship to a top private school based on my previous math results. I was encouraged to pursue Pure Maths in Trinity by the best Math teacher in the country, Ollie Murphy.

My math is correct.

Good job boards threads weren't examinable as you would've failed based on this one alone.

begbysback · 29-04-2018 09:37AM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Good job boards threads weren't examinable as you would've failed based on this one alone.

His math is correct, logic is questionable though.

Anyways I want to hear more about medals for math, and why he only got a B

Garda making up numbers again

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