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  • #32
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,706 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I was thinking of you today.
    I absolutely agree, it's time to get her to a school where they actually take their code of conduct seriously.
    One plus thing.. at least nowhere was it suggested it your daughter retaliated or played a part in any bullying so she can go to a new school with her head high and her reputation in tact.
    Of course she's sensitive after the trauma she has been through!
    What is the procedure for a child leaving the school? Is there an exit interview?
    I would at least write a letter to all members of BOM and clearly outline the reasons she is leaving in as much detail as you can.
    I know you say your dad is elderly OP but have you a friend or a trusted other mum from the school? You really need someone for support and to help you get out of that cesspit with a firm statement as to why you are leaving.

    To thine own self be true



  • #33
    Ghekko
    Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Ghekko


    I'm sorry to hear you got such a bad reception today. I agree you should move her. But I wouldn't let the school get away lightly. Most definitely write to the BOM now and express your concerns at the way the school deals with bullying. I hope the new school has a better attitude.


  • #34
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    I was thinking of you today.
    I absolutely agree, it's time to get her to a school where they actually take their code of conduct seriously.
    One plus thing.. at least nowhere was it suggested it your daughter retaliated or played a part in any bullying so she can go to a new school with her head high and her reputation in tact.
    Of course she's sensitive after the trauma she has been through!
    What is the procedure for a child leaving the school? Is there an exit interview?
    I would at least write a letter to all members of BOM and clearly outline the reasons she is leaving in as much detail as you can.
    I know you say your dad is elderly OP but have you a friend or a trusted other mum from the school? You really need someone for support and to help you get out of that cesspit with a firm statement as to why you are leaving.


    The answer I got was we will speak to the child doing the bullying and point out that it’s come to our attention that named child is hurt and what you are doing/saying to her it’s not funny and her feelings are hurt. Now if this persists I will have you back in here and there will be other consequences if it continues.

    I’m like really??

    I do have a close friend unfortunately wasn’t available today


  • #35
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    mickeyk wrote: »
    Principal and teachers probably fear the wrath of the bullies parents if they have to deal with it. Nobody wants to hear that their precious little swans aren’t model students. Much easier to just brush it off.

    OP, like I said before, no way I would let this go, it’s absolutely disgusting and cowardly from the bullies and the school. A quick call to joe Duffy would put manners in them, at the very least send a written complaint to the Department, documenting every interaction you and your daughter have had with them and how the school have responded. Their response is just not good enough in this day and age.

    I fully agree, there is an online thing where you can rate the teacher/principal and the ratings for this principal is appalling. Joe Duffy think I might give him a call!


  • #36
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    The school should have a bullying policy. If you've not seen it, request a copy.
    It may be on their website if they have one.


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  • #37
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Emilee wrote: »
    I fully agree, there is an online thing where you can rate the teacher/principal and the ratings for this principal is appalling. Joe Duffy think I might give him a call!

    This thread has just made me so angry I can’t imagine what you are feeling. The schools approach is wholly unsatisfactory and if nothing else, kicking up a stink might help some other poor child in the future. BOM’s can be hit and miss and are sometimes under the thumb of the principal but it may be worth talking to the chair and seeing what they think. If you get fobbed off there I’d escalate your grievance big time.


  • #38
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    Today is just another level really pi$$ed me off, literally I’m just off the phone to the school. My daughter is not going back, incidences happened today but another student, and all involved were reprimanded immediately. My daughters issue is going on 3/4 weeks now and the answer I’m getting is it needs to be investigated. I have informed the school I’m taking this further I’m not letting it go.

    One pi$$ed off mother!


  • #39
    taylor3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭taylor3


    Unbelievable. Regarding the other student you would have to wonder why the school took action so promptly, is it because of a who's who type situation or favouritism. Incompetence and inconsistency speaks volumes here.


  • #40
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,706 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I know it's easy for me to say but you need to take a firm stance on exiting your daughter.
    Sit down with your best friend and write a letter addressed to each member of the BOM outlining why you were obliged to take her out. Cite specific incidents if you can with dates etc. Detail the times she came home crying or stayed away fretting over the next day at school. Cite the times you tried intervention and what you were told.
    Then finally tell them in no uncertain terms that on the grounds of your concern for her safety and mental health wellbeing you have no choice but to remove her and you want this recorded as the reason for her exit.
    You could say that you feel they failed in their duty of care for one of their students.
    And this part is up to you but you could consider reporting them to Dept of Ed.
    Well done for making the decision to remove her xx

    To thine own self be true



  • #41
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    I know it's easy for me to say but you need to take a firm stance on exiting your daughter.
    Sit down with your best friend and write a letter addressed to each member of the BOM outlining why you were obliged to take her out. Cite specific incidents if you can with dates etc. Detail the times she came home crying or stayed away fretting over the next day at school. Cite the times you tried intervention and what you were told.
    Then finally tell them in no uncertain terms that on the grounds of your concern for her safety and mental health wellbeing you have no choice but to remove her and you want this recorded as the reason for her exit.
    You could say that you feel they failed in their duty of care for one of their students.
    And this part is up to you but you could consider reporting them to Dept of Ed.
    Well done for making the decision to remove her xx

    My concerns are with reporting the issues the principal he is on the BOM, I’m going public as mentioned by a previous poster it’s what I should do I’ve had enough and yes their favorites alright having a read of #ratemyteacher brought that to light for me.

    They like to cover up issues I do hear what your saying about reporting the issue with BOE but honestly I’d be going around in circles. It’s about time I stood up to this school and fight for my daughter.


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  • #42
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,706 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Emilee wrote: »
    My concerns are with reporting the issues the principal he is on the BOM, I’m going public as mentioned by a previous poster it’s what I should do I’ve had enough and yes their favorites alright having a read of #ratemyteacher brought that to light for me.

    They like to cover up issues I do hear what your saying about reporting the issue with BOE but honestly I’d be going around in circles. It’s about time I stood up to this school and fight for my daughter.
    Do whatever is right for you but again well done for making the decision x

    To thine own self be true



  • #43
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    taylor3 wrote: »
    Unbelievable. Regarding the other student you would have to wonder why the school took action so promptly, is it because of a who's who type situation or favouritism. Incompetence and inconsistency speaks volumes here.

    Exactly it’s not what you are but who!
    The child in question has sn which I’m fuming even more about it.
    I have a son with sn but would never treat him any differently than my daughter.


  • #44
    taylor3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭taylor3


    Totally feel for you and your daughter (as well as your sn child). Life is too short. I'm a firm believer in giving people a second chance but at this stage that school have had plenty of chances to deal with this and they either won't or can't for whatever reason. It still fascinates me why ?? Anyway I wish your family well and I'm sure your daughter is 10 times better than these horrible nasty wagons will ever be. Please always encourage your daughter to hold her head high and keep going. Feck The begrudgers.


  • #45
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    taylor3 wrote: »
    Totally feel for you and your daughter (as well as your sn child). Life is too short. I'm a firm believer in giving people a second chance but at this stage that school have had plenty of chances to deal with this and they either won't or can't for whatever reason. It still fascinates me why ?? Anyway I wish your family well and I'm sure your daughter is 10 times better than these horrible nasty wagons will ever be. Please always encourage your daughter to hold her head high and keep going. Feck The begrudgers.

    Thank you,


  • #46
    paddybarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭paddybarry


    Emilee wrote: »
    My concerns are with reporting the issues the principal he is on the BOM, I’m going public as mentioned by a previous poster it’s what I should do I’ve had enough and yes their favorites alright having a read of #ratemyteacher brought that to light for me.

    They like to cover up issues I do hear what your saying about reporting the issue with BOE but honestly I’d be going around in circles. It’s about time I stood up to this school and fight for my daughter.
    Principal is not on bom but is secretary to bom. You should write letter. Bom will ask questions. All the best, you are a great mum.


  • #47
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,970 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    paddybarry wrote: »
    Principal is not on bom but is secretary to bom. You should write letter. Bom will ask questions. All the best, you are a great mum.
    Not true - Principal is on BoM AND can also be Secretary. Personally, I don't think it's a great idea for Principal to be Secretary, as taking good notes generally makes it difficult to participate fully in the meeting. But there is an allowance for Principals in this role, so they often take it up.


  • #48
    paddybarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭paddybarry


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Not true - Principal is on BoM AND can also be Secretary. Personally, I don't think it's a great idea for Principal to be Secretary, as taking good notes generally makes it difficult to participate fully in the meeting. But there is an allowance for Principals in this role, so they often take it up.

    At primary yes, but not post primary.


  • #49
    Emilee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Emilee


    paddybarry wrote: »
    At primary yes, but not post primary.

    The principal at the school in on the BOM, and the secretary. So there’s no point in making contact with the BOM. I’d be givin the run around.


  • #50
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Emilee wrote: »
    Today is just another level really pi$$ed me off, literally I’m just off the phone to the school. My daughter is not going back, incidences happened today but another student, and all involved were reprimanded immediately. My daughters issue is going on 3/4 weeks now and the answer I’m getting is it needs to be investigated. I have informed the school I’m taking this further I’m not letting it go.

    One pi$$ed off mother!

    Know of a similar situation. Parent had meeting with principal and other teachers several times. Prevarication and nothing doing. Notes taken including correspondence and school anti-bullying policy refered to family solicitor. Letter sent to school. Bullying was dealt with that week with bully being put on suspension for behaviour and further warning if bullying continued.


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