Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

Arne_Saknussem · 14-04-2018 01:50PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

If he doesn’t keep it in check then his ego is in danger of reaching a level seen in famous bores like Stephen Fry and Russell Brand.

Posted this bollox then afterwards on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/984833162944634880

He's hitting insufferable wanker levels at breakneck speed, even faster than his mentor Russell(I wrote a book explaining the evils of capitalism to little people, priced £20) Brand

Worztron · 23-04-2018 07:03PM

So conor mcgregor threatens Blindboy then Blindboy defends cm by groveling? That's pathetic.

What else can "You are a man with a bag on his head, don’t get left in it." mean?

https://www.balls.ie/newsnow/conor-mcgregor-message-to-blindboy-386965
https://www.joe.ie/life-style/conor-mcgregor-blindboy-622441

Ulysses Gaze · 23-04-2018 07:07PM

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Posted this bollox then afterwards on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/984833162944634880

He's hitting insufferable wanker levels at breakneck speed, even faster than his mentor Russell(I wrote a book explaining the evils of capitalism to little people, priced £20) Brand

And £30 for T-Shirts made in Bangladesh...where the workers were making 25p per hour.

Right on...Man!!!!

23-04-2018 07:41PM

Worztron wrote: »

So conor mcgregor threatens Blindboy then Blindboy defends cm by groveling? That's pathetic.

What else can "You are a man with a bag on his head, don’t get left in it." mean?

https://www.balls.ie/newsnow/conor-mcgregor-message-to-blindboy-386965
https://www.joe.ie/life-style/conor-mcgregor-blindboy-622441

lol

"I then felt bad because I started thinking about, holy **** if the entire internet is talking about McGregor and he decides to respond to me then that means something I said genuinely probably hurt him and that’s what he needed to respond to.

I never even thought of that, that wasn’t in my head at all.

McGregor just reminded me of how Tupac was behaving. I certainly wasn’t suggesting that he was going to be shot.

And for McGregor to get pissed off about that he’s completely in his rights because you can’t go on Twitter pontificating or ****ing wondering about another human being’s life ending. That’s not my style. I would never do that.

So I just responded back to him, I was embarrassed. I didn’t know what to say, I just responded back ‘Sorry Conor. When I tweet **** like that I forget that there’s a real person behind it all that might be reading it. I’m going to delete it and no I never meant nothing about you getting shot just reminded me of Tupac scrapping in Las Vegas. I’m just spouting internet ****e. Look after yourself'.

For someone who speels on about depression and whatever other populist horsesh1t he sees a few quid in that's a bit of an error isn't it. Lacking in the ole mindfullness dept seemingly.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-04-2018 07:47PM

Poshboy got a little out of his comfort zone there.

I'd stay away from guys like McGregor if I were you Boatclub. They don't take kindly to your type.

Woke Hogan · 23-04-2018 08:21PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

If he doesn’t keep it in check then his ego is in danger of reaching a level seen in famous bores like Stephen Fry and Russell Brand.

Like them Blindboy is often seen as an intellectual or an artist by his less-than-intelligent acolytes. For some reason it seems beyond people that an artist would create art rather than bang on about how much of an artists they are all the time.

s7ryf3925pivug · 23-04-2018 10:34PM

Yeah it would have been better if he said -not what i meant, just don't attack buses, it's just being a hooligan Conor.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2018 07:18AM

Blindboy’s not perfect. You’ve rumpled him.

I find it strange when people take issue with him being an artist because he plays a silly character. He makes a free podcast so he’s free to make whatever he likes. If you like it, grand. If you don’t like if grand. I wasn’t a huge fan of that episode but it doesn’t invalidate the interesting things he’s chatted bout in other shows.

I’ve no idea why he annoys people so much. Is he doing harm in some way? If you aren’t interested in what he chats about, you’re not obliged to listen

RWCNT · 24-04-2018 07:52AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I’ve no idea why he annoys people so much. Is he doing harm in some way? If you aren’t interested in what he chats about, you’re not obliged to listen

Im not a devoted fan of the guy, but people tend to be negative about any celebrity that puts a bit of an activist hat on. Many would say it's because they feel the slebs are being disengenius and trying to milk the issues for their own gain, which I'd say can be true but I still give people their due for raising awareness of various issues all the same.

Woke Hogan · 24-04-2018 08:03AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Blindboy’s not perfect. You’ve rumpled him.

I find it strange when people take issue with him being an artist because he plays a silly character. He makes a free podcast so he’s free to make whatever he likes. If you like it, grand. If you don’t like if grand. I wasn’t a huge fan of that episode but it doesn’t invalidate the interesting things he’s chatted bout in other shows.

I’ve no idea why he annoys people so much. Is he doing harm in some way? If you aren’t interested in what he chats about, you’re not obliged to listen

Why would you find it strange? I presume you're familiar with the idea of a piece of art being analyzed or criticised.

Baggly · 24-04-2018 08:07AM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Why would you find it strange? I presume you're familiar with the idea of a piece of art being analyzed or criticised.

On its merits, not on the basis of who the artist is.

Or should we be running background checks on all artists before we appreciate or slate a piece of art?

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2018 08:09AM

RWCNT wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I’ve no idea why he annoys people so much. Is he doing harm in some way? If you aren’t interested in what he chats about, you’re not obliged to listen

Im not a devoted fan of the guy, but people tend to be negative about any celebrity that puts a bit of an activist hat on. Many would say it's because they feel the slebs are being disengenius and trying to milk the issues for their own gain, which I'd say can be true but I still give people their due for raising awareness of various issues all the same.

I'd agree that people have a go at a celeb who becomes an activist. But i think people are very selective and tend to criticise the celeb as a proxy for the issue they support.

for example, Jordan Peterson is a right wing activist who is doing a book tour at the moment. Saying some mildly controversial things to get some publicity and sell a few ore books. I wonder if the same people who get pissy about Blindboy, would get pissy about Peterson for the same reason. I suspect not because the criticism of the person is really criticism of the message they dont like.

Sky King · 24-04-2018 08:11AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I find it strange when people take issue with him being an artist because he plays a silly character.

He doesn't PLAY a silly character, Blindboy IS a silly character, played by a guy called Dave.

And the issue isn't with him 'being an artist'. That's fine. The issue is with the silly character being taken seriously in debates about serious issues.

if I was asked to debate a character based on an over-the-top horse-riding glue sniffing parody of a limerick skobe in a serious debate I'd tell whoever organized the debate to fk off with themselves and i am amazed more people don't.

Woke Hogan · 24-04-2018 08:15AM

Pter wrote: »

On its merits, not on the basis of who the artist is.

Or should we be running background checks on all artists before we appreciate or slate a piece of art?

His personal background is irrelevant to me but if an artist assumes a public persona for their art, then one would consider that persona to be a extension of the art itself and therefore subject to the same scrutiny the art would get.

Baggly · 24-04-2018 08:15AM

Sky King wrote: »

He doesn't PLAY a silly character, Blindboy IS a silly character, played by a guy called Dave.

And the issue isn't with him 'being an artist'. That's fine. The issue is with the silly character being taken seriously in debates about serious issues.

if I was asked to debate a character based on an over-the-top horse-riding glue sniffing parody of a limerick skobe in a serious debate I'd tell whoever organized the debate to fk off with themselves and i am amazed more people don't.

So am i right in saying you put more weight in who is saying something vs what is being said?

24-04-2018 08:16AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Im not a devoted fan of the guy, but people tend to be negative about any celebrity that puts a bit of an activist hat on.

Yeah I do. But it's not really for the reason you gave, it's because I look to celebrities for entertainment usually. Once they enter into a space where they begin to preach on every issue, not just a single issue that they might be passionate about or something they were just asked about, it makes them a lot less entertaining in the same way that a local politician is not all that entertaining. You begin to associate baggage with them instead of just enjoying the superficial layer of entertainment, which is what some of us simply want.
Entertainment = escapism from a complicated and stressful world.

Plus some such celebrities wouldn't be overburdened with brains and the opinions they espouse are just whatever crap is trending on twitter.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2018 08:16AM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Blindboy’s not perfect. You’ve rumpled him.

I find it strange when people take issue with him being an artist because he plays a silly character. He makes a free podcast so he’s free to make whatever he likes. If you like it, grand. If you don’t like if grand. I wasn’t a huge fan of that episode but it doesn’t invalidate the interesting things he’s chatted bout in other shows.

I’ve no idea why he annoys people so much. Is he doing harm in some way? If you aren’t interested in what he chats about, you’re not obliged to listen

Why would you find it strange? I presume you're familiar with the idea of a piece of art being analyzed or criticised.

Ironically, the criticism often surrounds the idea that hes not an artist/wears a bag on his head. Im fine with critique of opinions. It usually seems to be dismissal of the point rather than a counter point.

RWCNT · 24-04-2018 08:17AM

Augeo wrote: »

Worztron wrote: »

So conor mcgregor threatens Blindboy then Blindboy defends cm by groveling? That's pathetic.

What else can "You are a man with a bag on his head, don’t get left in it." mean?

https://www.balls.ie/newsnow/conor-mcgregor-message-to-blindboy-386965
https://www.joe.ie/life-style/conor-mcgregor-blindboy-622441

lol

"I then felt bad because I started thinking about, holy **** if the entire internet is talking about McGregor and he decides to respond to me then that means something I said genuinely probably hurt him and that’s what he needed to respond to.

I never even thought of that, that wasn’t in my head at all.

McGregor just reminded me of how Tupac was behaving. I certainly wasn’t suggesting that he was going to be shot.

And for McGregor to get pissed off about that he’s completely in his rights because you can’t go on Twitter pontificating or ****ing wondering about another human being’s life ending. That’s not my style. I would never do that.

So I just responded back to him, I was embarrassed. I didn’t know what to say, I just responded back ‘Sorry Conor. When I tweet **** like that I forget that there’s a real person behind it all that might be reading it. I’m going to delete it and no I never meant nothing about you getting shot just reminded me of Tupac scrapping in Las Vegas. I’m just spouting internet ****e. Look after yourself'.

For someone who speels on about depression and whatever other populist horsesh1t he sees a few quid in that's a bit of an error isn't it. Lacking in the ole mindfullness dept seemingly.

In fairness, right there in your quoted text he's completely owning up to what you're calling him out for and apologizing.

Also hang on, you consider the issue of mental illness to be "populist bull****"?

Sky King · 24-04-2018 08:18AM

Pter wrote: »

So am i right in saying you put more weight in who is saying something vs what is being said?

No.

Would you be happy to debate someone in a debate about a very serious issue (e.g. suicide) if they were using a fake voice, and fake accent and wearing a disguise?

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2018 08:33AM

Sky King wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I find it strange when people take issue with him being an artist because he plays a silly character.

He doesn't PLAY a silly character, Blindboy IS a silly character, played by a guy called Dave.

And the issue isn't with him 'being an artist'. That's fine. The issue is with the silly character being taken seriously in debates about serious issues.

if I was asked to debate a character based on an over-the-top horse-riding glue sniffing parody of a limerick skobe in a serious debate I'd tell whoever organized the debate to fk off with themselves and i am amazed more people don't.

Sure. In any case Blindboy is a character. It's performance art. The whole point is to remove the surface level details that help to sell an idea like a shiny suit and slicked back hair of a salesman. By using Blindboy, a caricature, to deliver the message it means the focus is on the message not the presentation of the person delivering the message.

That's one of the reasons Jordan Peterson presents himself the way he does. He presents as a middle aged man to help him connect with his primary audience of middle aged men which in turn helps him sell his message that things were better in the old days. There's nothing wrong with using appearance to sell a message. There's also nothing wrong with avoiding using appearance to sell a message. The content of the message should be the most important thing.

Sky King · 24-04-2018 08:36AM

So, you would be happy say, for example, to debate Ross O'Carrol-Kelly (played by an actor) in his stage persona, with his stage voice, on something like Magdelaine Laundries or Tuam Babies scandal or violence against women?

What about a debate between Blindboy and Ross? on something like suicide?

24-04-2018 08:36AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's one of the reasons Jordan Peterson presents himself the way he does. He presents as a middle aged man to help him connect with his primary audience of middle aged men

It's stuff like this that makes it super hard to take you seriously.

24-04-2018 08:56AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's one of the reasons Jordan Peterson presents himself the way he does. He presents as a middle aged man to help him connect with his primary audience of middle aged men which in turn helps him sell his message that things were better in the old days.

He's such a chameleon!

Woke Hogan · 24-04-2018 09:00AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Sure. In any case Blindboy is a character. It's performance art. The whole point is to remove the surface level details that help to sell an idea like a shiny suit and slicked back hair of a salesman. By using Blindboy, a caricature, to deliver the message it means the focus is on the message not the presentation of the person delivering the message.

That's one of the reasons Jordan Peterson presents himself the way he does. He presents as a middle aged man to help him connect with his primary audience of middle aged men which in turn helps him sell his message that things were better in the old days. There's nothing wrong with using appearance to sell a message. There's also nothing wrong with avoiding using appearance to sell a message. The content of the message should be the most important thing.

I genuinely can't see how anyone in their right mind would think that someone affecting a silly over top persona is the best way to convey a serious message. Imagine if Rod Hull and emu were telling people to check their scrotums for lumps, for example. Nobody would focus on the message then.

optogirl · 24-04-2018 09:04AM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I genuinely can't see how anyone in their right mind would think that someone affecting a silly over top persona is the best way to convey a serious message. Imagine if Rod Hull and emu were telling people to check their scrotums for lumps, for example. Nobody would focus on the message then.

He has said over and over again that the bag is also about anonymity - he can work a normal job, travel, socialise & go about his daily business without being recognised and that's worth a lot to him.

Woke Hogan · 24-04-2018 09:09AM

optogirl wrote: »

He has said over and over again that the bag is also about anonymity - he can work a normal job, travel, socialise & go about his daily business without being recognised and that's worth a lot to him.

I'm not talking about his costume, I mean his persona. His persona of the "gurrier artist speaking for the downtrodden youth" is an extension of his artistic expression and it can therefore be criticised or analysed, in my opinion.

weldoninhio · 24-04-2018 10:18AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

By using Blindboy, a caricature, to deliver the message it means the focus is on the message not the presentation of the person delivering the message.

That’s nonsense. If someone is delivering a message dressed as a clown, their opinion is going to be taken as the opinion of a clown.

seachto7 · 24-04-2018 10:20AM

I've gotten a bit fed up of his podcasts of late. Telling us about stuff, as if it's some amazing revelation, but it's general knowledge stuff at times. But maybe, as someone pointed out before, a silly c*nt will think it's profound.

Ulysses Gaze · 24-04-2018 10:22AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'd agree that people have a go at a celeb who becomes an activist. But i think people are very selective and tend to criticise the celeb as a proxy for the issue they support.

for example, Jordan Peterson is a right wing activist who is doing a book tour at the moment. Saying some mildly controversial things to get some publicity and sell a few ore books. I wonder if the same people who get pissy about Blindboy, would get pissy about Peterson for the same reason. I suspect not because the criticism of the person is really criticism of the message they dont like.

Peterson is not a right wing activist. He describes himself as a classic liberal. He's centrist more than left or right in my opinion.

Call Me Jimmy · 24-04-2018 10:28AM

I was a fan of him of him growing up, I found his comedy went downhill (or I matured - doubtful) over the years. His whole 'oh thanks media for doing what I know you will do' shctick here is so disingenuous. It's like saying Michael Jackson DM'd you offering to take your kids for a sleepover, you announce this and expect it not to be reported 'sensationally'... yea bull****

Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

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