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'Happy St Georges Day'

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    English culture is frequently found at the back of the fridge.

    To be entirely serious England impact on "broad" culture is so multifaceted that its hard to point to a couple of particular issues, Ireland is easy - writers, drink, music, craic and a bit of sport. England is everything from the World Wide Web to Liverpool fc to Monty Python to Fox News (sad to say that would never have happened without Sun style tabloid values being applied to a news context).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    England has probably made more of a cultural contribution to the world than anywhere else in Europe.

    Yeah, I'm the sure the Aborigines and Native Americans are thanking you for that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    ciano1 wrote: »
    More importantly... Its my Birthday!! :D
    neil2304 wrote: »
    Me too!!! :D
    Happy Birthday :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    Gnobe wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm the sure the Aborigines and Native Americans are thanking you for that!

    so, you take back your point about the English not really having a culture?

    And to say that English people don't have much of an identity is wrong. Doesn't mean the English are racist and unwelcoming, but they certainly are aware and pround of their history and identity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    so, you take back your point about the English not really having a culture?

    Can you tell me what it is, within England?

    People go and out and celebrate st.georges day and all things English which consists of....??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I don't really think there is such thing as an 'English culture' to be honest. Obviously there's the stereotypical Englishman, us all sitting round the patio sipping tea from our china mugs with our little finger poking out, and eating scones, but obviously that's nothing like the truth. England's like most other European countries, just with more miserable weather (most of the time, it's beautiful at the moment) and less respect for the elderly.

    I think because this country's such a melting pot of other cultures, there is no real 'English' one. We're just a mish-mash of everything.


    I don't think that's a bad thing, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    Gnobe wrote: »
    Can you tell me what it is, within England?

    People go and out and celebrate st.georges day and all things English which consists of....??

    English sport, literature, film, music, illustrious and famous history, english tradition, architecture systems of government, justice etc. iconic imagery of England, to food and drink etc. I could go on - there is an awful lot for English people to be proud of in regards to culture and history of this small nation that has for a long time punched well above its weight.

    Not sure why you care though, with your thoughts on nationality and humanity as shown in other threads you have created.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Gnobe wrote: »
    English people don't have a strong sense of identity anyway. I mean if you were to define English culture...what would it be exactly??
    In fairness they actually do have a fairly influential culture. We're using their language, we listen to their music, we play their sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Count Duckula


    How amusing. I'm spending my St. George's day (which I didn't even know it was, by the way!) "otherwise occupied" in bed with my Irish girlfriend in Ireland.

    You good folks don't understand HOW GRATEFUL I am that I'm going to be taking refuge in your fine country and escaping from the farce that is the royal wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    England has probably made more of a cultural contribution to the world than anywhere else in Europe.

    They have certainly made a massive contribution but I'm not sure if I agree with the above. I realise how unfashionable it is to be proud of our little island, but I don't think the contribution of Irish monks in transcribing and preserving manuscripts and books from all cultures during the dark ages can ever be overestimated. It is a huge contribution to the world that we should be proud of (or rather proud of them, as we didn't do anything.) imho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭cml387


    neil2304 wrote: »
    Me too!!! :D
    Me too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Gnobe wrote: »
    English people don't have a strong sense of identity anyway. I mean if you were to define English culture...what would it be exactly??
    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    In fairness they actually do have a fairly influential culture. We're using their language, we listen to their music, we play their sports.

    Culture and identity are not synonymous. The vast majority of people on this website would claim to be Irish, but culturally many/most of the same people probably speak the English language as their first language, watch British soaps and reality shows or follow British soccer teams.

    To the outside, insensitive, eye these Irish are essentially English in culture, although few would deny the strength of Irish identity.

    Likewise with the "British"; as much as it would annoy the Scots and Welsh (and ideological British nationalists) most of them, too, are culturally English. Their culturally Scottish or Welsh things are more accurately termed provincialisms, sops to their identities rather than to their cultures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,300 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Fair play to the English for not celebrating St George's Day.

    Most English are not religious and St George had nothing to do with England.

    So not really much for them to celebrate is there? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Fair play to the English for not celebrating St George's Day.

    Most English are not religious and St George had nothing to do with England.

    So not really much for them to celebrate is there? :confused:


    It's also Shakespeare's birthday (and the anniversary of his death).

    Arguably the Englishman attributed to having made the greatest single contribution to the cultural identity of his country.

    Surely thats something to celebrate !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    Lapin wrote: »
    It's also Shakespeare's birthday (and the anniversary of his death).

    Arguably the Englishman attributed to having made the greatest single contribution to the cultural identity of his country.

    Surely thats something to celebrate !

    Really :D



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I thought it was moved...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Saw a documentary on BBC4 by Rachel Unthank about Morris dancing and the history and culture behind it's local variants - I'm worried to report it was an interesting watch.

    Happy St. Georges day to na Sasanaigh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    brummytom wrote: »
    I don't really think there is such thing as an 'English culture' to be honest. Obviously there's the stereotypical Englishman, us all sitting round the patio sipping tea from our china mugs with our little finger poking out, and eating scones, but obviously that's nothing like the truth. England's like most other European countries, just with more miserable weather (most of the time, it's beautiful at the moment) and less respect for the elderly.

    I think because this country's such a melting pot of other cultures, there is no real 'English' one. We're just a mish-mash of everything.


    I don't think that's a bad thing, though.

    Disagree Brummy that there is no such thing as English culture, do you also think there is no such thing as Irish culture?

    You are spot on about the various cultures particularly in London, which makes the city such a great place.

    As for St Georges Day, believe they had celebrations in London today, special concerts etc.. and of course special offers in the pubs, God I would love a pint of London Pride now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,300 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Lapin wrote: »
    It's also Shakespeare's birthday (and the anniversary of his death).

    Arguably the Englishman attributed to having made the greatest single contribution to the cultural identity of his country.

    Surely thats something to celebrate !

    Well then call it Shakespeare Day or something.

    Don't name it after some bloke from the modern day Leb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Gratzi22


    Happy Georgie day - just in case you miss it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I mean if you were to define English culture...what would it be exactly??

    It's laughable when people on here can't even think of any cultural references esp. considering we are (like it or not) in the Anglo-sphere and mass consumers of English media beamed across the Irish Sea.
    Like coming up with absolutely nothing. Nada. Not music, cinema, literature, art, folklore, sport, science, architecture, the industrial revolution, modern popular culture, performing arts etc etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    It's laughable when people on here can't even think of any cultural references esp. considering we are (like it or not) in the Anglo-sphere and mass consumers of English media beamed across the Irish Sea.
    Like coming up with absolutely nothing. Nada. Not music, cinema, literature, art, folklore, sport, science, architecture, the industrial revolution, modern popular culture, performing arts etc etc?

    This?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    What would they know about a saint over there?

    That place is crawling with protestants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    topper75 wrote: »
    What would they know about a saint over there?

    That place is crawling with protestants.

    Protestant saints do be the best ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    mgmt wrote: »
    Pity they can't make it a national holiday like St Patricks Day here. Apparently it might offend people.

    Don't worry. St.Patrick's Day will probably be outlawed here soon enough if the virtue signalers have their way.


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