Mickey Harte getting involved in referendum in the Republic

jimd2 · 22-04-2018 09:25AM #1

Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that northerner Mickey Harte who never gives interviews to RTE is now starting a campaign of GAA sports stars to get a NO vote in the republic?

I have to say, and I am still undecided in the vote, that I am not really impressed with him getting involved and pulling together sports stars to encourage a NO vote. He may influence quite a number in border counties.

amcalester · 22-04-2018 09:27AM

He should stick to writing references for sex attackers.

JMNolan · 22-04-2018 09:35AM

Would you feel the same if he was campaigning for the yes side?

johnnyyesno · 22-04-2018 09:39AM

amcalester wrote: »

He should stick to writing references for sex attackers.

What was he thinking?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/womans-fury-as-sex-attacker-given-reference-by-gaa-boss-harte-is-jailed-for-twoandahalf-years-29102469.html

Raging_Ninja · 22-04-2018 09:48AM

jimd2 wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that northerner Mickey Harte who never gives interviews to RTE is now starting a campaign of GAA sports stars to get a NO vote in the republic?

I have to say, and I am still undecided in the vote, that I am not really impressed with him getting involved and pulling together sports stars to encourage a NO vote. He may influence quite a number in border counties.

Is your problem that he's getting involved? Or that he might influence people?

Jimbob1977 · 22-04-2018 09:50AM

Plenty of emigrants will fly back to Ireland for the referendum.... and then fly out directly afterwards. Many will commit electoral fraud. It's unenforceable.

People only become outraged when the opposition bend the rules.... but if it occurs on their side, it's absolutely fine.

Mr. Harte is entitled to his opinion. So are all the people outside the jurisdiction that have a keen interest for the Repeal side.

KERSPLAT! · 22-04-2018 09:52AM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Plenty of emigrants will fly back to Ireland for the referendum.... and then fly out directly afterwards. Many will commit electoral fraud. It's unenforceable.

People only become outraged when the opposition bend the rules.... but if it occurs on their side, it's absolutely fine.

Mr. Harte is entitled to his opinion. So are all the people outside the jurisdiction that have a keen interest for the Repeal side.

Yep. I might not agree with him but he's free to campaign the same as anyone else on either side

duffman13 · 22-04-2018 09:53AM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Plenty of emigrants will fly back to Ireland for the referendum.... and then fly out directly afterwards. Many will commit electoral fraud. It's unenforceable.

They really really won't. I dont think people overseas are as arsed with what happens in Ireland when they aren't living here. The effort of flying to Ireland to cast a vote

Hector Bellend · 22-04-2018 09:54AM

jimd2 wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that northerner Mickey Harte who never gives interviews to RTE is now starting a campaign of GAA sports stars to get a NO vote in the republic?

I have to say, and I am still undecided in the vote, that I am not really impressed with him getting involved and pulling together sports stars to encourage a NO vote. He may influence quite a number in border counties.

Isn't that the whole point?

P. Breathnach · 22-04-2018 09:56AM

I don't care if he publicly takes a position on the referendum.

The GAA should care if he associates them with it.

suicide_circus · 22-04-2018 10:00AM

I harte mickey

McMurphy · 22-04-2018 10:03AM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I don't care if he publicly takes a position on the referendum.

The GAA should care if he associates them with it.

He's Mickey Harte, if he farted loudly on the bus people would automatically associate him farting with the GAA.

I've no problem with him taking a stance in the referendum that's happening on the island of Ireland, I'm sure he considers himself Irish after all, no more and no less than any of the rest of us.

GritBiscuit · 22-04-2018 10:04AM

Is he campaigning for the same ridiculous situation that they have in the North? Where the NI assembly can sit in fake moral smuggery while Westminster must fund and transport women who want an abortion to Wales, England or Scotland thus ironically making fewer financial and logistical burdens than in parts of the UK where abortion is allowed?

Or is he proposing the generous people of Ireland, a different tax state to the one he resides in, continue to pay reparations that the Human Right Committee have awarded to women forced to travel?

GhostyMcGhost · 22-04-2018 10:08AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I harte mickey

#IHarteBabies

padd b1975 · 22-04-2018 10:11AM

duffman13 wrote: »

They really really won't. I dont think people overseas are as arsed with what happens in Ireland when they aren't living here. The effort of flying to Ireland to cast a vote

Think of all the"likes" and retweets they'll get.

Mrsmum · 22-04-2018 10:14AM

jimd2 wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that northerner Mickey Harte who never gives interviews to RTE is now starting a campaign of GAA sports stars to get a NO vote in the republic?

I have to say, and I am still undecided in the vote, that I am not really impressed with him getting involved and pulling together sports stars to encourage a NO vote. He may influence quite a number in border counties.

I think the question you have to ask yourself is would you be ok with it if a group of prominent GAA players came out yesterday for Repealing the 8th ?

Littlehorny · 22-04-2018 10:17AM

Spots people hate when politics gets involved in any shape or form in their game and rightly so, now you have this eejit who doesn't even live here trying to use his influence gained from sport to influence a political topic.
Comes across as being a bit of a hypocrite to be honest and he is also known for being very religious so his stance on the issue is onlt going to go one way.

WHIP IT! · 22-04-2018 10:20AM

Mrsmum wrote: »

I think the question you have to ask yourself is would you be ok with it if a group of prominent GAA players came out yesterday for Repealing the 8th ?

Personally, No. As a GAA man all my life, I do not want our sports associated with the current debate. It has no place.

The Repeal Debate, on both sides, has been - and I'm sure will continue to be - an absolute sh*tshow.

Pauliedragon · 22-04-2018 10:21AM

I don't understand why people can be influenced so easily these days anyway. Are we really just sheep? Who cares what a footballer, athlete, Kardashian, various social media "influencers" (whatever that is) tell us to do. We are supposed to be intelligent, self aware and independant beings. Do your research and make up your mind based on that. The world really is starting to remind me of a silly movie I saw years ago (Idiocracy I think it was called). Anyone who votes based on what facebook or some celebrity tells them should be taken off the register for life.

Mrsmum · 22-04-2018 10:25AM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Personally, yes. As a GAA man all my life, I do not want our sports associated with the current debate. It has no place.

The Repeal Debate, on both sides, has been - and I'm sure will continue to be - an absolute sh*tshow.

I agree, I just wondered if the op is bothered for the reason you are, which I agree with, or because MH might influence people to the side he may disagree with.

Fann Linn · 22-04-2018 10:27AM

Mrsmum wrote: »

I agree, I just wondered if the op is bothered for the reason you are, which I agree with, or because MH might influence people to the side he may disagree with.

I'd say that's the real problem there which you've highlighted.

Vojera · 22-04-2018 10:27AM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Plenty of emigrants will fly back to Ireland for the referendum.... and then fly out directly afterwards. Many will commit electoral fraud. It's unenforceable.

It's legal to come home to vote if your total stay abroad is going to be less than 18 months.

bucketybuck · 22-04-2018 10:36AM

Littlehorny wrote: »

Comes across as being a bit of a hypocrite to be honest and he is also known for being very religious so his stance on the issue is onlt going to go one way.

How is it being hypocritical? Everybody and their dog knows that Harte is hugely devout as a christian, I would imagine it would be more hypocritical for him to stay quiet on an issue he feels strongly about.

I don't agree with him, but at least I can respect that his opinions on this are consistent with his beliefs.

McMurphy · 22-04-2018 10:37AM

Littlehorny wrote: »

Spots people hate when politics gets involved in any shape or form in their game and rightly so, now you have this eejit who doesn't even live here trying to use his influence gained from sport to influence a political topic.
Comes across as being a bit of a hypocrite to be honest and he is also known for being very religious so his stance on the issue is onlt going to go one way.

He is from Tyrone, and still lives there as far as I know.

It might not suit some folks narrative, but Tyrone part of the island of Ireland, and this referendum could affect folk up there just as much as legalizing abortion up there might affect people here.

It is my suspicions that people who are protesting against Hartes stance based on where on the island he lives wouldn't have any such protestations if his stance was different, ie possibly aligned with their own?

Huntergonzo · 22-04-2018 10:37AM

I completely disagree with his stance and personally I think his opinions are dangerously religious but he is entitled to them.

As for campaiging/protesting outside of his jurisdication, well I can't imagine that's uncommon at all, I'd say people on all sides do this all the time.

For example, didn't people in the Republic only very recently march against a decision taken by a jury up north!

Grab All Association · 22-04-2018 10:39AM

Didn’t he come last in Eurovision?

ðŸŽµWe’ve got the world tonight!ðŸŽµ

Jimbob1977 · 22-04-2018 10:42AM

Vojera wrote: »

It's legal to come home to vote if your total stay abroad is going to be less than 18 months.

That's fine. The problem is the enforceability. It's very easy to say that you intend your stay to be < 18 months... in the full knowledge that you are emigrating for good.

bucketybuck · 22-04-2018 10:44AM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

For example, didn't people in the Republic only very recently march against a decision taken by a jury up north!

Exactly. Funny how jurisdiction didn't seem to matter when opinions about that case were being thrown about everywhere.

The real point is that these are issues that don't really respect jurisdictions. People in the south felt strongly about matters relating to sexual assault, some people in the north feel strongly about matters relating to what they see as the killing of babies. Is it really any surprise that they would feel strongly enough about it to speak up?

Summer In the City · 22-04-2018 10:44AM

He's a an absolute scumbag but he's entitled to his opinion. Anyone listening to him is worse.

Hande hoche! · 22-04-2018 10:50AM

duffman13 wrote: »

They really really won't. I dont think people overseas are as arsed with what happens in Ireland when they aren't living here. The effort of flying to Ireland to cast a vote

Know of someone who set up a go fund me to pay for a flight home from Asia to take part in the referendum.

whisky_galore · 22-04-2018 10:53AM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Know of someone who set up a go fund me to pay for a flight home from Asia to take part in the referendum.

Go fund yourself, cheapskate.

Mickey Harte getting involved in referendum in the Republic

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