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The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

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  • #7472
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    horseburger wrote: »
    I asked you, why you think that you stating that Maria Steen endorses child and sexual abuse, isn't defamation?

    You stated:



    Considering she is a member of the Iona Institute, you are now stating as fact that members of the Iona Institute "support and have committed the sexual abuse of children".[/B]

    Neigh.


  • #7473
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    I think he's broken.

    Keeps asking me to show him inaccurate statements I never said he made in the first place whilst continuously deflecting and ignoring the questions asked of him.

    As you can see by the responses to my queries of him, you're only wasting your time.

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


  • #7474
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    horseburger wrote: »
    What inaccurate statements have I made?
    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Deflecting again are we? Like I said, I never said you made these statements, I said the pro-life campaign did, are you the entirety of the pro-life campaign?

    Can you read?


  • #7475
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Neigh.

    I reckon a legal opinion might differ from yours.


  • #7476
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Can you read?

    Answer the question:

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


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  • #7477
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    horseburger wrote: »
    Answer the question:

    What inaccurate statements have I made?

    Have I said you in particular made these inaccurate statements?

    Have I said "horseburger has made the following incorrect/inaccurate statements"?

    I said the pro-life campaign made these statements and asked for your comments/remarks/opinion on them.


  • #7478
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Have I said you in particular made these inaccurate statements?

    Have I said "horseburger has made the following incorrect/inaccurate statements"?

    I said the pro-life campaign made these statements and asked for your comments/remarks/opinion on them.

    Just answer my question:

    What inaccurate statements have I made?

    Your answer will include examples of inaccurate statements made by me.

    Or your answer will be:

    "None".


  • #7479
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    Jesus Christ you really are deflecting hard and heavy here.

    Have I said you have made inaccurate statements?

    Your answer will include examples of me explicitly saying you have made the following inaccurate statements I initially mentioned.

    Or your answer will be:

    "No".


  • #7480
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Jesus Christ you really are deflecting hard and heavy here.

    Have I said you have made inaccurate statements?

    Your answer will include examples of me explicitly saying you have made the following inaccurate statements I initially mentioned.

    Or your answer will be:

    "No".

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


  • #7481
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    Ah now someone's only gone and put the pro-life-bot on repeat.

    Oh well.


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  • #7482
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Ah now someone's only gone and put the pro-life-bot on repeat.

    Oh well.

    You seem unwilling to answer a pretty straight forward question, where the answer is examples of inaccurate statements having been made by me.

    Or your answer is:

    None.

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


  • #7483
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    You keep on repeating buddy, I'll await the mod note/threadban and happily accept any card I will have accrued during this lovely shining example of you doing nothing but deflect deflect deflect.

    I'll hazard your next post will be -

    You seem unwilling to answer a pretty straight forward question, where the answer is examples of inaccurate statements having been made by me.

    Or your answer is:

    None.

    What inaccurate statements have I made?

    I'll await the results on this one.


  • #7484
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Horseburger, what are your opinions on the false and misleading statements that have been made by the pro life campaign?


  • #7485
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    You keep on repeating buddy, I'll await the mod note/threadban and happily accept any card I will have accrued during this lovely shining example of you doing nothing but deflect deflect deflect.

    I'll hazard your next post will be -

    You seem unwilling to answer a pretty straight forward question, where the answer is examples of inaccurate statements having been made by me.

    Or your answer is:

    None.

    What inaccurate statements have I made?

    I'll await the results on this one.

    I think this is the tenth time, that I have asked you a straight forward and uncomplicated question.

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


  • #7486
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Horseburger, what are your opinions on the false and misleading statements that have been made by the pro life campaign?

    What's your opinion of false and misleading statements that are made by anyone anywhere, no matter what issue is being discussed?


  • #7487
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    horseburger wrote: »
    What's your opinion of false and misleading statements that are made by anyone anywhere, no matter what issue is being discussed?

    I hold them in contempt.

    Can you answer my question now, since I have answered yours?


  • #7488
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Horseburger, what are your opinions on the false and misleading statements that have been made by the pro life campaign?

    Yeah see he's kind of in the whole "I won't answer you until you've answered me" mindset now even though as you can see, I made point of it here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106787471&postcount=7485

    So as you can see he's completely focused on this point and won't budge on it until I've answered him, even though I have already, despite him flat out refusing to answer questions I've asked of him before.


  • #7489
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Horseburger, what are your opinions on the false and misleading statements that have been made by the pro life campaign?

    They might be 'false' in that they leave out qualifying information. But I don't think they're misleading.


  • #7490
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I hold them in contempt.

    Can you answer my question now, since I have answered yours?

    Why do you think that I would defend inaccurate statements made by anyone?

    I haven't defended any inaccurate statements.

    I have not made any inaccurate statements.


  • #7491
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    Yeah see he's kind of in the whole "I won't answer you until you've answered me" mindset now even though as you can see, I made point of it here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106787471&postcount=7485

    So as you can see he's completely focused on this point and won't budge on it until I've answered him, even though I have already, despite him flat out refusing to answer questions I've asked of him before.

    Round 11

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


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  • #7492
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    horseburger wrote: »
    Why do you think that I would defend inaccurate statements made by anyone?

    I haven't defended any inaccurate statements.

    I have not made any inaccurate statements.

    So you do not defend the false and inaccurate statements made by the pro life campaign.

    That's all Rob was looking for, for the last 30 odd posts. But we got there, in the end.


  • #7493
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    pleas advice wrote: »
    They might be 'false' in that they leave out qualifying information. But I don't think they're misleading.

    If they have to leave out information, they're already misleading. They aren't giving the full truth, therefore, they are misleading. It's like me saying 1 in 5 customers get their shopping paid for! and then leaving out that they have to spend over a certain amount to avail of it, I know retail isn't the best way for me to compare it but I went for what just popped into my head, does that make sense?

    I appreciate you acknowledging that they are false though.


  • #7494
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you do not defend the false and inaccurate statements made by the pro life campaign.

    That's all Rob was looking for, for the last 30 odd posts. But we got there, in the end.

    Why would I defend false and inaccurate statements?


  • #7495
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    pleas advice wrote: »
    They might be 'false' in that they leave out qualifying information. But I don't think they're misleading.

    They just present alternative facts.


  • #7496
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you do not defend the false and inaccurate statements made by the pro life campaign.

    That's all Rob was looking for, for the last 30 odd posts. But we got there, in the end.

    He won't comment on them or acknowledge them, in fact when they're pointed out to them he reverts into the "I did not make those statements, where did I make incorrect statements?" mindset.

    It's not really what I'm looking for as he's just deflecting, again. I've stuck him on the ignore list though for the time being, 'til an AH mod comes in and has a gander, kinda derailed the thread a good bit and I apologise to all those valuable contributors who have to go through the previous pages to see what they missed in the morning.


  • #7497
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    He won't comment on them or acknowledge them, in fact when they're pointed out to them he reverts into the "I did not make those statements, where did I make incorrect statements?" mindset.

    It's not really what I'm looking for as he's just deflecting, again. I've stuck him on the ignore list though for the time being, 'til an AH mod comes in and has a gander, kinda derailed the thread a good bit and I apologise to all those valuable contributors who have to go through the previous pages to see what they missed in the morning.

    Well if he doesn't defend them I'll take it as implied that he disagrees with them.

    And then I'll go to sleep.


  • #7498
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    robarmstrong wrote: »
    He won't comment on them or acknowledge them, in fact when they're pointed out to them he reverts into the "I did not make those statements, where did I make incorrect statements?" mindset.

    It's not really what I'm looking for as he's just deflecting, again. I've stuck him on the ignore list though for the time being, 'til an AH mod comes in and has a gander, kinda derailed the thread a good bit and I apologise to all those valuable contributors who have to go through the previous pages to see what they missed in the morning.

    You have not answered my straight forward and uncomplicated question.

    For some reason you volunteered to tell me that you never said I made inaccurate statements.

    I didn't ask you if you said I made inaccurate statements.

    I asked you:

    What inaccurate statements have I made?

    Your answer will include examples, or your answer is "None."

    I think this is the 12th time I will ask you:

    What inaccurate statements have I made?


  • #7499
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They just present alternative facts.

    Not "alternate", just facts with an asterisks


  • #7500
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    pleas advice wrote: »
    Not "alternate", just facts with an asterisks

    If you have to put an asterisk after a fact then the "fact" is misleading.

    Saying "1 in 5 of all pregnancies in England and Wales end in abortion" is a lie.

    Saying "1 in 5 of all live births in England and Wales end in abortion" is a fact.

    Saying "90% of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted" is misleading, the correct statement that the pro-life crowd should put on posters (and I agree with them putting this up, as it is a fact) is "64% of Down Syndrome diagnoses are made prenatally, and 90% of those babies are aborted" is a factual statement and belongs on there instead. It adds more credibility to their argument and in my opinion would stir genuine and reasonable conversation.


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  • #7501
    horseburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    She and the Iona institute have consistently defended the likes of cardinal Sean Brady who swore a 14 year old abuse victim to silence, while hiding abuse from the police and moving pedophile priests to other areas to allow them to continue abusing children.
    So yes she and the Iona institute do speak for those who support and commit sexual abuse of children, if you speak for a religion that does these things you endorse it.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mishandling-of-abuse-cast-a-shadow-over-cardinals-career-28960389.html
    "He is an extremely nice man - it's impossible to find anybody who knows him personally to say anything bad about him," Mr Quinn said.



    I've been gracious enough to answer you, so do the same, plenty of posters are waiting on your answers to their questions.

    Where, in that article, does David Quinn defend what Cardinal Sean Brady did in 1975?

    You allege that David Quinn and Maria Steen have defended what Cardinal Sean Brady did in 1975.

    You have made a serious, legally contentious allegation.

    You stated:
    DubInMeath wrote: »
    She speaks for people who support and have committed the sexual abuse of children in my opinion


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