Is it illegal to tear down posters

martingriff · 19-04-2018 12:01PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

But unable to survive outside the womb, suppose technically a parasite, can't survive on its own, needs a host...

And this is why some dislike the yes side using words like parasite, anyone who hates women vote no. I wonder have anyone told there you know I thought of you as nothing but a parasite using my body. For all of us who feel like turning away from the yes side because of this please do not. Vote for what you think is right.

In relation to posters why is it they are forcing there opinion on people when you oppose it but if it's something you support it's just information. We are in a democracy and both sides are entitled to put there sides forward. I do agree with people here that all posters should be banned

Trasna1 · 19-04-2018 12:06PM

Mrhuth wrote: »

I'll post up a photograph of how many of them are in my street. I didn't count but it's at least 20 and they are on every lamp post. Who the hell is funding them? Why is it on issues like that, that they have unlimited funding. And then they go calling pro abortion activists nazis. What the ****? How many vote yes posters do you see compared to vote no? Same with gay marriage yeah because gay marriage affects your pathetic life so ****ing much that you have to prevent other people getting married. I am furious for not taking down the anti gay marriage posters. I won't make the same mistake again.

Didn't the yes campaign raise 500k from small donations? That have the money to put up posters but have decided not to (yet). The reason there are so many no posters is because that's how they side have decided to run their campaign.

Postering isn't very effective anyway. Go whinge about something more worthwhile - like posters and cable ties left up after the referendum.

martingriff · 19-04-2018 12:09PM

Mrhuth wrote: »

Yeah and that's all you can do, report someone for having a different opinion on you. Enjoy life and continue to support unwanted overpopulation of our planet. **** all animal habitats, **** all other creatures. We need to make space for more humans here. Because 7 billion is not enough.

So we should allow abortions due to overpopulation. So how many do we need a year. If we do not achieve that number forced abortions?

animaal · 19-04-2018 12:09PM

I'm undecided. But it's depressing to see how little tolerance is shown between the sides. Not to mention the number of people who are happy to disregard democracy in order to achieve their aim.

For me, the undermining of democracy has longer-reaching implications than the results of this referendum. I'd be happy to see a ban on posters, but not in the middle of a campaign just because one side sees the other being more successful with their postering.

Whichever side is going to win, I think it's important that the result can stand without any doubt over illegal actions by either side. And remember, when the dust dies down, we'll all still have to share this wet little country.

I also wonder what people's opinions are on re-runs. Should the result of this referendum (whatever that result is) stand for the foreseeable future? Or should we plan on a re-run every 20 years or so, to repeal/reestablish a constitutional ban?

vicwatson · 19-04-2018 12:13PM

The posters I dislike immensely are the ones put up without the contact information on them i.e. illegal ones, the only ones I've seen like this are from the no campaign so far

It's ridiculous that it's the Gardai's responsibility to take these down, and not the county council, what a waste of Garda resources

kylith · 19-04-2018 12:16PM

martingriff wrote: »

So we should allow abortions due to overpopulation. So how many do we need a year. If we do not achieve that number forced abortions?

I know of a guy who opposes abortion on the grounds that if we don't breed good, Irish stock we'll be overrun by immigrants.

Ash.J.Williams · 19-04-2018 12:20PM

My village is poster free and anyone of either persuasion gets dogs abuse and social media shamed if they disobey.... The no side usually spout sh1te about their human rights being violated

John_D80 · 19-04-2018 12:24PM

kylith wrote: »

I know of a guy who opposes abortion on the grounds that if we don't breed good, Irish stock we'll be overrun by immigrants.

Mad.

I know someone who is in favour of abortion as a means to cut social welfare expenditure.

Lunatics/idiots on both sides.

martingriff · 19-04-2018 12:34PM

kylith wrote: »

I know of a guy who opposes abortion on the grounds that if we don't breed good, Irish stock we'll be overrun by immigrants.

Damn that's a new 1 on me

kylith · 19-04-2018 12:35PM

John_D80 wrote: »

Mad.

I know someone who is in favour of abortion as a means to cut social welfare expenditure.

Lunatics/idiots on both sides.

Exactly. But if one says "I was going to vote one way but now I'm not because of the idiots and lunatics on that side" while completely ignoring the lunatics and idiots on the opposing side, then I believe that one was never going to vote that way in the first place; it is a tactic to attempt to smear the campaign.

martingriff · 19-04-2018 12:35PM

John_D80 wrote: »

Mad.

I know someone who is in favour of abortion as a means to cut social welfare expenditure.

Lunatics/idiots on both sides.

Heard of that 1 as it would cut down on 8 + child families as if they are thinking like that

WinnyThePoo · 19-04-2018 12:37PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

For me I’m going to either vote YES or not vote. The YES campaign is convincing me to not vote.

Lol

We've met people like you before.

donegal. · 19-04-2018 12:39PM

martingriff wrote: »

So we should allow abortions due to overpopulation. So how many do we need a year. If we do not achieve that number forced abortions?

thebull85 · 19-04-2018 12:41PM

MOD: thebull85 - don't post anything like this again, its out of order.

AndyBoBandy

gmisk · 19-04-2018 12:44PM

thebull85 wrote: »

The ironic thing is these repeal the 8th crowd look like they would have a hard time getting anyone to impregnate them the f***in head on most of them.

Tide wouldnt take them out.

And the save the 8th crowd are all such rides!?!?!
David Quinn...John Mc Guirk....calm my quivering loins!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 19-04-2018 12:45PM

Reati wrote: »

A fair bit of nose spiteing face in this thread.

I was going to vote one way but someone else acts the goat so i'm going to vote a different way or not vote at all to spite it?

No wonder the country is ruled by parish pump politics if that's how you figure out how you'll vote. Don't look at the issues and actually come up with your own view on what you believe what ever you do.

But i have come up with my own view. My own view is I’ll vote yes to repeal unless the yes campaign annoys me enough. That’s literally my own idea. And what’s it got to do with parish pumps again?

A campaign matters. Believe it or not there are more important things to most of us. Healthcare, housing, infrastructure, tax, our general lives.

If a campaign is run by wombats I’ll decide to abstain. Similarly, if I like a candidate for office and his party initially, but he turns out to be a wombat he loses the vote too. In that case there may be other candidates or none to vote for. And I have not voted before for that reason. Other times I voted across the board. Depends.

And it is reason. I am reasoning my voting habit not based on just what is up for debate but what and how it is debated. The exact opposite of parish pump or ideological cookie cutter voting.

Democracy largely depends on people like me, as the rest of you vote the same every time.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 19-04-2018 12:47PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Lol

We've met people like you before.

Have you now. No idea what that means.

The yes campaign isn’t doing itself any favours in here either.

Stoner · 19-04-2018 12:47PM

JohnnyFlash wrote:

The Yes side are in danger of alienating large parts of the undecided vote base by letting fat angry women with nose rings and short spiky hair appear on the tv and radio so they can lecture us.

I'm undecided at the moment. Everyone else at home has their mind made up.
I'm finding it difficult to be honest, I don't care about men's rights that wouldn't make me vote no. There is nothing confusing me regarding the gender.

I'm saying this because I am genuinely undecided. I honestly don't want to vote all out yes or no.

That aside I have to check myself as some of the yes vote agenda could put you off if you didn't collect yourself. I find the ott No element is easier to ignore.

There's an element of the no vote being "uncool" I think that's dangerous, similar to removing posters from either side.

gmisk · 19-04-2018 12:48PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But i have come up with my own view. My own view is I’ll vote yes to repeal unless the yes campaign annoys me enough. That’s literally my own idea. And what’s it got to do with parish pumps again?

A campaign matters. Believe it or not there are more important things to most of us. Healthcare, housing, infrastructure, tax, our general lives.

If a campaign is run by wombats I’ll decide to abstain. Similarly, if I like a candidate for office and his party initially, but he turns out to be a wombat he loses the vote too. In that case there may be other candidates or none to vote for. And I have not voted before for that reason. Other times I voted across the board. Depends.

And it is reason. I am reasoning my voting habit not based on just what is up for debate but what and how it is debated. The exact opposite of parish pump or ideological cookie cutter voting.

Democracy largely depends on people like me, as the rest of you vote the same every time.

Trust Wombats

I am a gay man so tbh no skin at all in this game so to speak, but I fully believe a woman should be able to decide what is right for her, the 12 week time frame seems sensible to me and from what I have read.
I would recommend reading the "in her shoes" facebook page, it is real stories from men and woman affected by this.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 19-04-2018 12:50PM

kylith wrote: »

Exactly. But if one says "I was going to vote one way but now I'm not because of the idiots and lunatics on that side" while completely ignoring the lunatics and idiots on the opposing side, then I believe that one was never going to vote that way in the first place; it is a tactic to attempt to smear the campaign.

That makes no sense. I was never going to vote NO so how they conduct their campaign isn’t going to sway me either way. If they conduct it badly I won’t vote no. If they are paragons of virtue I won’t vote no.

thebull85 · 19-04-2018 12:54PM

thebull85 wrote: »

MOD: thebull85 - don't post anything like this again, its out of order.

AndyBoBandy

Will do, but let me just say its a true statement, and worse has been said on this thread.

WinnyThePoo · 19-04-2018 12:57PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Have you now. No idea what that means.

The yes campaign isn’t doing itself any favours in here either.

Of course you don't. Your just one of those people who where going to 'vote yes' and but the yes side is so terrible you can't. Hilarious dishonesty, own your decisions.

Fann Linn · 19-04-2018 12:57PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But i have come up with my own view. My own view is I’ll vote yes to repeal unless the yes campaign annoys me enough. That’s literally my own idea. And what’s it got to do with parish pumps again?

A campaign matters. Believe it or not there are more important things to most of us. Healthcare, housing, infrastructure, tax, our general lives.

If a campaign is run by wombats I’ll decide to abstain. Similarly, if I like a candidate for office and his party initially, but he turns out to be a wombat he loses the vote too. In that case there may be other candidates or none to vote for. And I have not voted before for that reason. Other times I voted across the board. Depends.

And it is reason. I am reasoning my voting habit not based on just what is up for debate but what and how it is debated. The exact opposite of parish pump or ideological cookie cutter voting.

Democracy largely depends on people like me, as the rest of you vote the same every time.

Agree with you. For some of us this campaign is way down the peckin order in terms of relevance.

However, our votes will be required by either side to win. How a campaign is conducted by each side does resonate with me when or if I decide to place my X.

Trasna1 · 19-04-2018 12:57PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But i have come up with my own view. My own view is I’ll vote yes to repeal unless the yes campaign annoys me enough. That’s literally my own idea. And what’s it got to do with parish pumps again?

A campaign matters. Believe it or not there are more important things to most of us. Healthcare, housing, infrastructure, tax, our general lives.

If a campaign is run by wombats I’ll decide to abstain. Similarly, if I like a candidate for office and his party initially, but he turns out to be a wombat he loses the vote too. In that case there may be other candidates or none to vote for. And I have not voted before for that reason. Other times I voted across the board. Depends.

And it is reason. I am reasoning my voting habit not based on just what is up for debate but what and how it is debated. The exact opposite of parish pump or ideological cookie cutter voting.

Democracy largely depends on people like me, as the rest of you vote the same every time.

I don't personally like to hear someone is voting on the tone of the campaign rather than the substance - it is a perfectly valid way to decide how to cast your vote. While I voted for SSM amendment had it been defeated the wailing and knashing of teeth would have been something to behold amongst our liberal press/commentators/Twitter.

fearrchair · 19-04-2018 01:02PM

Mrhuth wrote:

Like you see some bs advertising like 20 signs of brainwashed VOTE NO everywhere. Are they authorised to be put up and can I tear them down for spreading fake information? There is one thing I cannot handle and that is propaganda.

What about those that believe in the no vote. It might be as important to them as you believe the yes is in your viewpoint. I am not sure about authorised signs but I'm sure they're the same as the yes campaign.

mynamejeff · 19-04-2018 01:06PM

This whole thread stinks ,
the new account starts about posters on poles and then goes into a rabid vote yes or your a fascist rant.

reminds me a lot of the gay marriage vote

I would be in principal in favour of both gay marriage and repeal the 8 but the manner in which the yes campaigners conduct the selfs would lead me to vote no or not at all ,

there is no intelligent discussion , no facts no dissent allowed and if you dare to raise a question you must be a religious nut a fascist or whatever

as for the posters i think they should not be used at all as they are always left lying around after inspite the fact that they are ment to be taken down asap after the event

circadian · 19-04-2018 01:26PM

Mrhuth wrote: »

I'll post up a photograph of how many of them are in my street. I didn't count but it's at least 20 and they are on every lamp post. Who the hell is funding them? Why is it on issues like that, that they have unlimited funding. And then they go calling pro abortion activists nazis. What the ****? How many vote yes posters do you see compared to vote no? Same with gay marriage yeah because gay marriage affects your pathetic life so ****ing much that you have to prevent other people getting married. I am furious for not taking down the anti gay marriage posters. I won't make the same mistake again.

Stonedpilot wrote: »

If your so anti propaganda perhaps you like to tear down the vote yes posters funded by George Soros?.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

"I don't like the message so I'm going to destroy someone elses property and litter the streets"

Our snowflake generation folks.

Graces7 · 19-04-2018 01:28PM

When I was in Healy Rae territory before an election, I wished I had the nerve to remove the faces from ever tree and lamppost,

The lifesized cardboard cut out when you get near Healyrae town was bad enough ..

Someone apparently felt as I and many did that night

Murdoc90 · 19-04-2018 01:30PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Have you now. No idea what that means.

The yes campaign isn’t doing itself any favours in here either.

Thankfully it won't be decided here.

Jane1012 · 19-04-2018 01:39PM

Im still very much on the fence, I’m neither 100% no or yes, probably 60% no and 40% yes. However I’ll make my mind up before the end of May.

What I find funny is a yes supporter whose main campaign line is the right to choice, yet they don’t support the right to free speech and want to illegaly remove posters.

Many of the yes side to me seem like ill educated jump on the band wagon type of people. Anything to get involved in an anti government/church/‘insert form of authority’ type person.

Is it illegal to tear down posters

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