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F&F Chitchat a hocht, an feirmeoir bocht

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,531 ✭✭✭tanko


    Was dehornng calves for a relative last night. He normally does them as yearlings but I offered to do them. They were strong enough, but one particular was very big and stone mad. He dragged me around the shed trying to get him in the crate. We let him off but then decided to put him in the crush gate. Low and behold he had no horns. Cow was a black and white simmental and calf was red and white. The AA polled genes must have carried through somewhere. Nice bit of luck for once. Shame to have just one yearling to poll.

    Have an 11 year old white CH cow here, shes 12.5% Angus. Her CH and Lim calves never have any horns even though theyre only 6% Angus.
    Its amazing how the polled gene carries through sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭Odelay


    I won't deny that. Still have the fecking robin in my bedroom too. Looks like it'll be a long term pet as the wing isn't healing.

    How does that work out with the cat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Odelay wrote: »
    How does that work out with the cat?

    Have the robin shut into the spare room. Though forgot to lock it one day and found the cat sitting on the windowsill just watching the robin flutter about in his cage. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,622 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    That could be a, long term relationship, with the robin. Hardware shop in Macroom has one, in residence, for the last six years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    An article from the New York Times that's currently generating a bit of interest.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/18/magazine/dirt-save-earth-carbon-farming-climate-change.html

    It describes the concept of regenerative grazing and also slurry spreading dairy farms having more carbon in the soil.

    Then me oul pal Cyanobacteria gets a mention too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Water John wrote: »
    That could be a, long term relationship, with the robin. Hardware shop in Macroom has one, in residence, for the last six years.

    .......really? They've not been switching birds in the interim or anything:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,622 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Maybe, its the next generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    There's a wild banded robin that lived for 14 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Rightly flustered here the last couple of days looking for a week old calf in 100 acres of a winterage. Mother is very milky and looks to be well sucked, was bursting with milk the day she calved and the calf was very hardy and sucked himself the day he was born. Haven't seen a trace of him since. Don't think she could be dried up so quickly. You'd often see them hide the calves for the first few days but a week is stretching it a bit. What he think? To my eyes the cow is sucked but my minds playing tricks on me at this stage. Walked the legs off myself today but it's a needle in a haystack kind of situation. Keep hoping I'll catch the cow by herself heading back to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,622 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I suspect he's still there. Problem is, they are then wild as feck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Would the drone be any help in having a look see?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Would the drone be any help in having a look see?

    If I put it up today there's a good chance it would land closer to your place than mine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,322 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Watch the cow for a while she might look in the direction the calf is. If she isnt looking for ir chances are he has her drank and is asleep somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭mayota


    Would bringing a dog with you make the cow head for the calf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Rightly flustered here the last couple of days looking for a week old calf in 100 acres of a winterage. Mother is very milky and looks to be well sucked, was bursting with milk the day she calved and the calf was very hardy and sucked himself the day he was born. Haven't seen a trace of him since. Don't think she could be dried up so quickly. You'd often see them hide the calves for the first few days but a week is stretching it a bit. What he think? To my eyes the cow is sucked but my minds playing tricks on me at this stage. Walked the legs off myself today but it's a needle in a haystack kind of situation. Keep hoping I'll catch the cow by herself heading back to him.

    Can you make the sound of a calf bawling, you know the sound they make when they are distressed? Turn your back to the cow and try and throw the sound around with your hand moving over your mouth. Sounds mad as I read it back, but it often worked here to get a cow to go looking for calf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    I had that problem with a heifer last year, didnt see the calf for 4/5 days and it only on 10 acres! Found it eventually by starting at the cow and walking in a spiral outwards around her. She started to take more notice of me andnow throwing an eye at me when I was in the direction the calf was lying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Can you make the sound of a calf bawling, you know the sound they make when they are distressed? Turn your back to the cow and try and throw the sound around with your hand moving over your mouth. Sounds mad as I read it back, but it often worked here to get a cow to go looking for calf.

    The joys of calving outside ,i often spent a day searching for a calf myself and would have all hope lost after a few days but always the calf will show up .Some of them seem to have a natural instinct to hide but very fustrating thinking that you should have looked after them better until low and behold they eventually cock their head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭Odelay


    I had that problem with a heifer last year, didnt see the calf for 4/5 days and it only on 10 acres! Found it eventually by starting at the cow and walking in a spiral outwards around her. She started to take more notice of me andnow throwing an eye at me when I was in the direction the calf was lying.

    This is how to do it. Don't look the cow in the eye, they know when being watched. Shield your eyes and walk in the spiral, discretly see how the cow reacts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Can you make the sound of a calf bawling, you know the sound they make when they are distressed? Turn your back to the cow and try and throw the sound around with your hand moving over your mouth. Sounds mad as I read it back, but it often worked here to get a cow to go looking for calf.

    Ya I can do it alright, have tried all the tricks at this stage. Some of the cows can be very cute. It's the area that's catching me. Could literally spend a week walking it and not find a trace of him. There's about 40 acres of scrub and bushes in it along with all the rocks and nooks and crannys in the open parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Odelay wrote: »
    This is how to do it. Don't look the cow in the eye, they know when being watched. Shield your eyes and walk in the spiral, discretly see how the cow reacts.

    He could use the drone to film himself walking around the cow tomorrow in the slack/calm conditions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    I had that problem with a heifer last year, didnt see the calf for 4/5 days and it only on 10 acres! Found it eventually by starting at the cow and walking in a spiral outwards around her. She started to take more notice of me andnow throwing an eye at me when I was in the direction the calf was lying.

    Works if your near the calf alright, could be a half a mile away for all I know though. Feckers do be all heading to the nut trough as soon as they hear the jeep coming up the road aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Ya I can do it alright, have tried all the tricks at this stage. Some of the cows can be very cute. It's the area that's catching me. Could literally spend a week walking it and not find a trace of him. There's about 40 acres of scrub and bushes in it along with all the rocks and nooks and crannys in the open parts.

    I find when you walk up to her they almost always immediately look in direction of calf .. I always concentrate my search where she looks first when disturbed .. Do that bawling trick too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Ard_MC


    Rightly flustered here the last couple of days looking for a week old calf in 100 acres of a winterage. Mother is very milky and looks to be well sucked, was bursting with milk the day she calved and the calf was very hardy and sucked himself the day he was born. Haven't seen a trace of him since. Don't think she could be dried up so quickly. You'd often see them hide the calves for the first few days but a week is stretching it a bit. What he think? To my eyes the cow is sucked but my minds playing tricks on me at this stage. Walked the legs off myself today but it's a needle in a haystack kind of situation. Keep hoping I'll catch the cow by herself heading back to him.

    You dont have a dog? Let him out for a run about. The cow wont be long gettin protective and head back. But be careful she could decide to chase the dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


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    Can't beat the drone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Ms. Chanandler Bong


    I have a crazy bird (a blue tit) that's assaulting my kitchen window. Or rather, the lintel above the kitchen window. He's not attacking his reflection and he doesn't bother with food left on the sill, just keeps flying up to the lintel like he's trying to get something (nothing there). He's there a few times an hour, most of the day. I was curious about what he was at when he first appeared. Two weeks later, he's just wrecking my head :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    I have a crazy bird (a blue tit) that's assaulting my kitchen window. Or rather, the lintel above the kitchen window. He's not attacking his reflection and he doesn't bother with food left on the sill, just keeps flying up to the lintel like he's trying to get something (nothing there). He's there a few times an hour, most of the day. I was curious about what he was at when he first appeared. Two weeks later, he's just wrecking my head :D

    Ye haven't had a scourge of flies- bigger than midges but similar shape- in the last week or so? They all hatched out from the lake beside us and have been plaguing everyone around it since. They seen to like sitting on white painted walls etc so the tit could be after those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Ye haven't had a scourge of flies- bigger than midges but similar shape- in the last week or so? They all hatched out from the lake beside us and have been plaguing everyone around it since. They seen to like sitting on white painted walls etc so the tit could be after those.

    Could be after spiders either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I have a crazy bird (a blue tit) that's assaulting my kitchen window. Or rather, the lintel above the kitchen window. He's not attacking his reflection and he doesn't bother with food left on the sill, just keeps flying up to the lintel like he's trying to get something (nothing there). He's there a few times an hour, most of the day. I was curious about what he was at when he first appeared. Two weeks later, he's just wrecking my head :D

    Any cables or hidden cables running under the eaves or behind the fascia boards on the house?
    Could be cables going to sensor lights or going to the satellite dish.
    Maybe if you have, turn off the power to these and see what happens.

    http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/05/07/electromagnetic-noise-disrupts-bird-compass/

    He could be seeing something that you can't see.

    Edit: I so want this to be the answer.:p
    Electromagnetic interference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,322 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Parents had the same last year. Bird tapping at the window and crapping on it too. They tried tying cd's on the inside and other things. In the end my dad set a rat trap on the window sill. After a few days there was a few feathers in the gone off trap and we never saw the bird again ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Parents had the same last year. Bird tapping at the window and crapping on it too. They tried tying cd's on the inside and other things. In the end my dad set a rat trap on the window sill. After a few days there was a few feathers in the gone off trap and we never saw the bird again ...

    The cat ate the stunned bird. ;)


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