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Laura Whitmore: 'A man put his hand up my skirt in a nightclub and laughed'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Shadowstrife


    “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

    ― Margaret Atwood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Ak84


    Not a nice thing to happen to a woman.
    As a man it would not bother me if a woman Grabbed me. But thinking if a man grabbed me it would be very uncomfortable. Hmm. Am I allowed to say that or is it sexist
    ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,915 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Is there a way to hide threads on boards?
    No, but it's fairly easy not to click into the thread and read it if you're not interested in the topic of well described thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    Strait Up wrote: »
    Is this a nightclub thing? I have spent a good deal of my life in pubs and have never seen a woman molested.

    Yep cos sleezbags like to do it in the dark where they won't get a thump off the nearest actual lad that sees it and stands up for the girl.

    I've had mates do it to girls, one regret i have is not calling them out on it. Some girls like it, would have to say majority probably don't.

    I wouldn't mind if a class looking bird grabbed my arse, but if if she had a face like a bulldogs arse I probably wouldn't be too impressed. Better off everyone be sound and start leaving each others arses alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

    ― Margaret Atwood

    Also must be noted:

    "Star Wars inspired 9/11"

    -- Margaret Atwood


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    professore wrote: »
    More front page news on the Indo today.

    Really ... an Irish woman is gang raped in the Czech republic by 6 men. Radio silence.

    A Z list celeb once had some creep put his hand up her skirt - front page news. It's not pleasant but hardly worthy of front page coverage.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/laura-whitmore-a-man-put-his-hand-up-my-skirt-in-a-nightclub-and-laughed-36799492.html

    Celeb? I've never even heard of the woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    I fall somewhere in the middle on this.
    Was it an unpleasant experience for her? I’m sure it was.
    Should she have spoken up about it? Yes she should.
    Is it worthy of being front page exclusive news: probably not.
    Have I just done that annoying thing where you answer your own questions? Yes I have.

    Why do you answer your own questions? I don't know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    professore wrote: »
    More front page news on the Indo today.

    Really ... an Irish woman is gang raped in the Czech republic by 6 men. Radio silence.

    A Z list celeb once had some creep put his hand up her skirt - front page news. It's not pleasant but hardly worthy of front page coverage.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/laura-whitmore-a-man-put-his-hand-up-my-skirt-in-a-nightclub-and-laughed-36799492.html

    Celeb? I've never even heard of the woman.

    You're missing out she's a great looking lass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    You're missing out she's a great looking lass.
    She's average.

    I wonder if a man put his hand up her skirt and not laugh, would that make the front page?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    She's average.

    :confused:

    1983717_1.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭RubyGlee


    Fair play to her for speaking out about it.
    No one male or female has the right to touch someone like that without....the buzz word....consent.
    Assault plain and simple. If more keep speaking out then maybe just maybe it might start to sink in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    RubyGlee wrote: »
    Fair play to her for speaking out about it.
    No one male or female has the right to touch someone like that without....the buzz word....consent.
    Assault plain and simple. If more keep speaking out then maybe just maybe it might start to sink in

    You wouldn't want to have been around in the 70's or 80's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭RubyGlee


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    You wouldn't want to have been around in the 70's or 80's.

    Nope or the 50’s or the 1800’s etc thankfully society learns and grows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    You wouldn't want to have been around in the 70's or 80's.

    There was a lot worse than that in the 80s.
    Those perms...
    Those shoulder pads...
    Those ankle warmers...
    ...on the men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    RubyGlee wrote: »
    Nope or the 50’s or the 1800’s etc thankfully society learns and grows

    In some ways society is going more backwards than forwards, e.g. It's gone from one extreme to the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,540 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Look, this is great and all that women are starting to realise that they don't have to be silent about these things. But for the love of God report it to the actual police, and not the social media police. What good is telling everyone you were touched up in a nightclub, and giving out about it, if you never did anything about it? There's no need to tell us this happens, as we all more or less know getting groped in a nightclub is a good possibility (and yes, it shouldn't happen, but it does). Hey, even some people enjoy it.

    And i'm all for equal rights, as long as they are equal. And one can't even give a hypothetical situation without being called out as being misogynistic or victim blaming. I like to play devils advocate, simply because a lot of people are stuck in their ways and refuse to take part in a debate, not wanting to hear the other side. I take little to no interest in the majority of these debates, but I have great interest in over reactions of people on either side. Victim blaming is wrong, but there has to be some semblance of accountability in a lot of these cases. It may be the smallest of amounts, but it has to be there (in a lot of cases, not all, but people don't want to hear that).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Agricola wrote: »
    :confused:

    1983717_1.jpg

    I agree but the question is why haven't you availed of it? The free eye test that is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Personally I think she's gorgeous and that chap who assaulted her should be charged if it was as bad as she suggested, which i have no reason to doubt. Met her once when her bf was swarmed by young girls at a gig. She walked over to me and started chatting until they all cleared off. She was lovely and came across as very genuine. However, I do disagree with the following:
    She also slammed male paparazzi for taking "pants shots" of female celebrities, saying those in the public eye are not "playthings."

    I mean this is fair enough if you're not the kind of celeb who is courting that kind of shot but Laura has attended premieres where she has worn outfits that show off her panties and the like and you're playing with fire when you do that as naturally paps are just going to go for the most explicit shot they can. Here's an example.

    I do think up skirt shots are going too far but then, tbf, some female celebs have deliberately exposed their underwear and worse / better (depending on your perspective) in a brazen attempt at getting in the papers and that's bound to have a knock on effect on celebs who don't want such attention. So I think while I get where she's coming from, you really can't blame the paparazzi 100% on (at least all) the kind of photos that's she's referring to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I was sexually assaulted in Tipp Town in 2009.

    Tough looking common bint took a shine and started feeling up me arse at the bar .


    Later on in the night our groups were sitting together and she started fiddling up my leg trying to get at my equipment.


    All my friends burst their holes laughing at it.


    In reality it upset me but I didn't say anything.


    It had no lasting impact me , I got over it , just a creepy 40 plus rough wan
    This kinda sh1t will happen to every one in their lifetimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,540 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Careful Pete, you don't want to be victim blaming here. Women should be allowed to wear what they want, and not have the paparazzi taking photos of their privates.

    However, on the flip side, people know that's what the paparazzi do, so why put yourself in that situation to begin with, just because 'I should be able to'. Plenty of celebs out there have little to no 'revealing' photos, because they know if they put themselves in that situation, it will happen. But no, can't victim blame...


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  • Site Banned Posts: 21 Blame Game


    Maybe it's best not to hang out in seedy nightclubs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,540 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Blame Game wrote: »
    Maybe it's best not to hang out in seedy nightclubs?

    Perfect username!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    Paz-CCFC wrote:
    ......Don't you think that sexual assault is an important enough topic to warrant that?

    Yes. But this doesn't qualify. A Z lister with questionable talent jumping on a bandwagon for personal gain diluting actual sexual assault with this nonsense is not news worthy.

    I had a number of gay men touch various parts of me one night in the George (I was obviously with a woman but it didn't stop them!!) I took it as a compliment tbh.

    Drunken men or women pinching arses or whatnot is not sexual assault.

    A rapist/pedo/abusive person deserves their life to be spent locked up, a drunk who grabs a boob.......not so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,832 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    What is it with these 'celebs' they need to tell us everything that ever happened to them and every little thing they do.

    Do they think we really care about their lives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Lara Thousands Witch


    NIMAN wrote: »
    What is it with these 'celebs' they need to tell us everything that ever happened to them and every little thing they do.

    Do they think we really care about their lives?

    Espeically Amanda Brunker/Vogue Williams/Roz Purcell types who have no talent only just being "attractive"....Like do we care if Vogue pops into the Jacks at Stephens Green while out shopping or Amanda found a 50cent coin on her walk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,915 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    khaldrogo wrote: »

    Drunken men or women pinching arses or whatnot is not sexual assault.

    A rapist/pedo/abusive person deserves their life to be spent locked up, a drunk who grabs a boob.......not so much.

    So just to be clear, you reckon that YOU have the right to decide who gets to touch MY body, and how/when they touch MY body? And same for my wife and my daughter - it is YOUR standard of touching up that is relevant, and not THEIR personal choice about who/how/when they are touched?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,061 ✭✭✭conorhal


    NIMAN wrote: »
    What is it with these 'celebs' they need to tell us everything that ever happened to them and every little thing they do.

    Do they think we really care about their lives?

    It used to be that celebrities relied on mystique and the allure of their impossibly, unobtainably, glamorous lives to promote themselves
    Then the internet happened and everybody had instagram glamorous lives, so instead celebs had to rely on oversharing every aspect of their lives, like a particularly neurotic facebook addict, just to stay relevant.
    Constant exposure is now the name of the game now, and because we know everything about everybody, mystique is almost as impossibly unobtainable as celebs former glamour. Who are you without your own #hashtag story to promote? If you're not trending you're not relevant.
    It's just another self marketing tool, and a skeezy one at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,915 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Espeically Amanda Brunker/Vogue Williams/Roz Purcell types who have no talent only just being "attractive"....Like do we care if Vogue pops into the Jacks at Stephens Green while out shopping or Amanda found a 50cent coin on her walk
    NIMAN wrote: »
    What is it with these 'celebs' they need to tell us everything that ever happened to them and every little thing they do.

    Do they think we really care about their lives?

    I'm always amazed/amused by those who click into threads about 'celebs' to complain about 'celeb' culture. If you're really not interested, why did you click into the thread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    If that's sexual assault then lock me up.

    Straightforward question: Have you ever put your hand up a stranger's skirt?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Ask any man who has worn a kilt....


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