Belfast rape trial discussion thread II

tretorn wrote: »

Piss off is a very rude term to use, I feel offended, where are the thought police, I want someone to pay because I feel offended.

Sad given the subject matter someone would use the thread for their own amusement even if it is AH.

tritium wrote: »

Oh for ****s sake. Of all the disreputable, dishonest slants we’ve seen put on how this case transpired that on really takes the biscuit

Care to acknowledge why there had to be four barristers?

Care to acknowledge who made to decision to carry out four trials together?

Setting a new low there. Utterly pathetic post

Oh for f##ks sake, I know full well why there was four barristers.

That fact remains it was unprecedented.

I know full well who made the decision to carry out the four trials together.

But there are some right nutters who think this case shouldn't have gone to court who'd want to take a look at themselves.

By doing that, you are inferring that this young woman either fooled them all, and by all I mean, the Rape Crisis Centre, The PSNI, The Crown Prosecutors office, who collectively managed to get this case all the way to the jury, despite the best efforts of the defense team.

Otherwise, start a thread in the conspiracy forum because that is where that nonsense belongs!

So they were found not guilty in the eyes of the law, but still lose their jobs/livelihoods because of social media? Mob rule at it's worst IMO

Faugheen wrote: »

Press Association saying both Jackson and Olding are gone.

So many people in this thread are going to be fuming.

However, lets remember it's their actions that caused this and not the actions of Twitter.

I'm happy for them actually. Get out of this toxic puritanical atmosphere.

Great to see young women and families in the crowd at the match tonight.

Faugheen wrote: »

I'm not talking about rape.

I'm talking about them causing a woman to leave their company in hysterics and bleeding, and then the following WhatsApp messages.

Regardless of the verdict, all of the above has been acknowledged by Olding and Jackson.

Did she not initiate/consent to those actions? She must have, if the jury couldn't find anything wrong

Its a self serving gesture by the IRFU, it won't add any more learning points to PJ and SO that the last two years haven't already delivered. I doubt it will serve to stop someone else making similar errors in judgement, if that worked we would have irradiated all crimes by now. As gestures go it doesn't send a strong unequivocal message, it makes the IRFU look pretty weak given the interference of the sponsors

It simply sweeps it away from the IRFUs doorstep to keep the sponsors sweet and keep the money rolling in. They'll need that money to pay them both off so that they dont dispute the decision and take them to court for unfair dismissal. A fresh start awaits them with another club outside of Ireland. Pity.

On the positive side, maybe it will inspire some changes in the way rape cases are dealt with in the future in the UK, I doubt it but who knows.

Faugheen wrote: »

Nah, they lost their jobs because of their actions that night.

You're forgetting - the following bodies were all acting in cahoots.

The Irish media (for completely unbalanced media exposure)
The PSNI (for bothering to investigating the complaint)
The CPS (for believing it had a better than a reasonable chance of securing a conviction)
The Femanzis
Social Media
Liberals/Conservatives
Sexually repressed Catholics
Other unknown dark forces

Augeo wrote: »

Their statements of regret whether genuine or not spoke volumes about their conduct.....if you regret your actions it's not unusual for others to find them unacceptable

Bon voyage top sh@ggers

Yep, tell the children of Ireland...do something you regret and loose everything and face tacit deportation.
We've come a long way.

NAGDEFI wrote: »

Francie you've been living in denial for weeks. This would happen in most rugby playing countries.

Calling people puritanical etc is pointless.

You've invested more energy on this thread than any other poster and it was as plain as the nose on our face what was going to happen.

You can't make a world of your own.

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FrancieBrady wrote:

I said it all along, the sponsors would go with the loudest noise.

NAGDEFI wrote: »

But this crack of blaming Ireland and it's 'mobs', feminazi, twitterati.. As i said above most rugby playing countries wouldn't allow those fellas play for them.

You're in denial about mobs, twitterati, feminazis. It's just ordinary public opinion. No organised 5th columns. You've been blaming these groups in your head when they are actually the people you deal with in your daily life, be they family, neighbours etc.

Ireland of 2018, or most western countries isn't ready to have 'top shaggers' on the national team. Ireland as a whole, that's the size of it, no conspiracies. It's not Vegas here or in most countries.

We're ahead of the liberal curve in many respects, with Same Sex Marriage for example.

Ireland's hypocritical moral indignation about sex comes from somewhere. Personally I think most of this came from a latent strain of RC hangups.
'We know it goes on, we partake in it ourselves maybe, but do not get caught doing it, because we need to feel morally superior and righteous.

Add in the feminazis with the 'a girl can withdraw consent the morning after if she wants to' and the defendants didn't have a chance. They were gone from day one.

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah thank god that beacon of morality Bank of Ireland have come along to save the day. :rolleyes:

The banks helped rob the state of its sovereignity , causing horrific misery to many , now handing out moralistic lectures - PLEASE spare me - Olding and Jackson are finished wont play in or for Ireland again , I would have joined the witch-hunt if they were found guilty , rape is a horrific crime , but if they were truly innocent -