Dairy chit chat II

yewtree · 13-04-2018 10:30AM

5 cows left to calve here, have had only 4 calves in April. 2 of those cows got milk fever and 3 of the calves have crypto. I can see no labour saving in having a prolonged calving season. The last 10% of cows here have more problems than the 1st 90% of cows.

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 12:05PM

Neddyusa wrote: »

Nice - what's the capacity of that spreader?

Not sure but it’s small, two ton maybe?

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 12:13PM

kowtow wrote: »

It's a kassbohrer more or less isn't it?

Yes. A PistenBully 100. 1800 hours on it.
Early model that he bought and mounted a spreader on. He said it was used for laying some track and doing some snow grooming.

I admire the chap that set it up. Very professional outfit that recognised the niche for a machine like that after a record wet winter/spring. He’s got 48 supposedly experienced staff and his prices are reasonable.

kowtow · 13-04-2018 12:31PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

I admire the chap that set it up. Very professional outfit that recognised the niche for a machine like that after a record wet winter/spring. Heâ€™s got 48 supposedly experienced staff and his prices are reasonable.

Would be the right job for spreading slurry here I reckon.

We used to take the kids out on those at night with the pisteurs from time to time. Absolutely unreal skills... particularly on the steeps when the tracks aren't enough + everything is done on a cable.

blue5000 · 13-04-2018 01:19PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I see that there’s some posters here (or in another thread) that reckon it would be more cost effective to buy maize meal than get forage maize grown on contract...my advice would be to buy the maize meal now because it may not be dirt cheap later.

Sometimes dawg you make my day, I needed a bit of encouragement to stick the plough in the ground to grow barley, this might do it!

Have ryegrass and red clover here on it's 3rd year, I'm thinking of stitching in another bit of red clover after the first cut, would crimson red clover last for a few years or do you know of any other persistent red clover varieties?

Great pics BTW, thanks.

Reggie. · 13-04-2018 01:28PM

K.G. wrote: »

sometimes you are a right pain in the arse but every so often you throw a little nugget like this that gets me thinking.

Now there a back handed compliment

Reggie. · 13-04-2018 01:30PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Sometimes dawg you make my day, I needed a bit of encouragement to stick the plough in the ground to grow barley, this might do it!

Have ryegrass and red clover here on it's 3rd year, I'm thinking of stitching in another bit of red clover after the first cut, would crimson red clover last for a few years or do you know of any other persistent red clover varieties?

Great pics BTW, thanks.

This In interested in. Red clover getting very popular here for the organic lads. Can be hard to stitch in as it's a naked seed compared to white clover

freedominacup · 13-04-2018 01:57PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Now there a back handed compliment

Dawg won't know whether he's after getting a pat on the back or a kick in the hole.

leg wax · 13-04-2018 03:41PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Dawg won't know whether he's after getting a pat on the back or a kick in the hole.

what do we usually give him,......:P

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 03:58PM

kowtow wrote: »

Would be the right job for spreading slurry here I reckon.

We used to take the kids out on those at night with the pisteurs from time to time. Absolutely unreal skills... particularly on the steeps when the tracks aren't enough + everything is done on a cable.

Did you own one?
I’d say it’d be good craic on snow. I’d a small spin on it and it seems capable enough.
Those pisteurs are a breed apart...

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 04:18PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Sometimes dawg you make my day, I needed a bit of encouragement to stick the plough in the ground to grow barley, this might do it!

Have ryegrass and red clover here on it's 3rd year, I'm thinking of stitching in another bit of red clover after the first cut, would crimson red clover last for a few years or do you know of any other persistent red clover varieties?

Great pics BTW, thanks.

After harvest and right up ‘till Xmas the best I could get for feed barley (failed malting) was €117/ton. Now it’s €167/t...after I’d it all fed to cattle.
Saudi, are big users of barley and are having a little difficulty sourcing it...like I said it’s only my opinion.

What kind of ground is the ryegrass/clover on?
If it’s a bit damp/difficult then there’s a type of clover that competes very well with ryegrass. It’s called Micheli or Balansa clover. Needs to be harvested/grazed before flower bud stage or it’s done for.
There’s some hybrid clovers that are quite persistent but pricey, and if you’re making silage with it, it won’t put up with the competition from the ryegrass.

Crimson clover is finished after its cut.

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 04:20PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Dawg won't know whether he's after getting a pat on the back or a kick in the hole.

Lol, felt like the latter.

Gawddawggonnit · 13-04-2018 04:26PM

leg wax wrote: »

what do we usually give him,......:P

Dawgs abuse!!!

Did you buy those heifers you wanted?

Before I get utterly lambasted...............,...........I’m off now for the weekend for a couple of days racing.

kowtow · 13-04-2018 04:51PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

Did you own one? Iâ€™d say itâ€™d be good craic on snow. Iâ€™d a small spin on it and it seems capable enough. Those pisteurs are a breed apart...

No, most of the kids mountain guides / teachers used to do a stint in the evenings. Also often the only way down from parties If the lifts can't be kept open!

K.G. · 13-04-2018 05:19PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

freedominacup wrote: »

Dawg won't know whether he's after getting a pat on the back or a kick in the hole.

Lol, felt like the latter.

I always get the former and the latter mixed up so i cant confirm which it was

K.G. · 13-04-2018 05:19PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

freedominacup wrote: »

Dawg won't know whether he's after getting a pat on the back or a kick in the hole.

Lol, felt like the latter.

I always get the former and the latter mixed up so i cant confirm which it was.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 13-04-2018 05:22PM

K.G. wrote: »

I always get the former and the latter mixed up so i cant confirm which it was

One swells your head, the other your ar$e.

Not sure which though

Mooooo · 13-04-2018 05:33PM

Anyone buy calved cows recently? What's the trade like?

simx · 13-04-2018 05:42PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Anyone buy calved cows recently? What's the trade like?

A well known man that writes in ifj sold some in Kk Monday gone av.€1691

alps · 13-04-2018 06:29PM

Cows on their way out tonight...

First night outside with almost 6 months.....hard to get over..

wrangler · 13-04-2018 06:40PM

alps wrote: »

Cows on their way out tonight...

First night outside with almost 6 months.....hard to get over..

Definitely a big turn round in the weather today

whelan2 · 13-04-2018 06:41PM

wrangler wrote: »

Definitely a big turn round in the weather today

Overcast here all day

the_blue_oval · 13-04-2018 07:03PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Overcast here all day

Was overcast here the last couple of days too with a bit of mist for a good chunk of the last 2 days, but I can’t get over how much some ground has started to dry up the last few days even tho there didn’t seem to be much drying out..

we’re just about managing to keep cows out day and night now, and places that were grazed are showing signs of regrowth the next day.. did a grass walk yesterday and average growth was 25 with the better paddocks growing about 50.. things finally starting to look up

leg wax · 13-04-2018 07:34PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Dawgs abuse!!!

Did you buy those heifers you wanted?

Before I get utterly lambasted...............,...........I’m off now for the weekend for a couple of days racing.

no as they never dropped in price :eek::cool::P

Say my name · 13-04-2018 08:27PM

alps wrote: »

Cows on their way out tonight...

First night outside with almost 6 months.....hard to get over..

I definitely wouldn't have had the same forage or filler quality as some on here when cows were in at night here or even full-time for a while.
But how and ever the cows went up .20% protein from one collection to the next 2 days collection by just being out fulltime.
Never seen a jump as quick as that before.

yewtree · 13-04-2018 09:11PM

Say my name wrote: »

I definitely wouldn't have had the same forage or filler quality as some on here when cows were in at night here or even full-time for a while.
But how and ever the cows went up .20% protein from one collection to the next 2 days collection by just being out fulltime.
Never seen a jump as quick as that before.

very few people had enough of 75 dmd + silage to get to this stage of the year. cows went up three litres since I took silage out I havnt had a test result to compare yet but my protein has been terrible the last two weeks

Mooooo · 13-04-2018 09:22PM

P has ranged from 3.32 to 3.55 and bf from 3.76 to 4.57. For thr last 6 weeks. Have a few cowd at a later stage in lactation. Variable silage but if it wasn't for the maize it would have been way lower. 8kgs of ration helping too

Timmaay · 13-04-2018 10:21PM

Mooooo wrote: »

P has ranged from 3.32 to 3.55 and bf from 3.76 to 4.57. For thr last 6 weeks. Have a few cowd at a later stage in lactation. Variable silage but if it wasn't for the maize it would have been way lower. 8kgs of ration helping too

Protein ranged from 3.05 (fulltime on wet pit silage during the snow) and 3.63 fulltime on grass before the rain hit 10days ago, and bf 4.63 down to 3.63 when I let them on covers of 8/900 in rd2. And I'm certainly not proud of that range ha, I'm sure Dwag or any of yous with tmr'd diets would have a heart attack over it, but cows have got on with it, and didn't do too bad condition wise, only issue were some fresh calvers being ramped up to quick in the parlour on nuts, batch feeders only here. More leafy bales needed this year definitely.

whelan2 · 14-04-2018 10:05AM

Let heifers out with angus bull yesterday. A bit earlier than planned as I will have no one to help me for the next ten days . Had them on meal all winter and they look great

Mooooo · 14-04-2018 10:09AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Protein ranged from 3.05 (fulltime on wet pit silage during the snow) and 3.63 fulltime on grass before the rain hit 10days ago, and bf 4.63 down to 3.63 when I let them on covers of 8/900 in rd2. And I'm certainly not proud of that range ha, I'm sure Dwag or any of yous with tmr'd diets would have a heart attack over it, but cows have got on with it, and didn't do too bad condition wise, only issue were some fresh calvers being ramped up to quick in the parlour on nuts, batch feeders only here. More leafy bales needed this year definitely.

The thing to watch I find esp if the feeding rate for the calmag is spread over higher kgs of ration is that the fresh calvers may not eat it all straight away. Set for 6kgs here and I see the odd manger with a good bit left

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