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  • #1772
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Thanks v much.

    Do you have a link for the u18 schools?


  • #1773
    The Lost Sheep
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Thanks v much.

    Do you have a link for the u18 schools?
    gazump was involved in the 18s clubs and schools and it was RFU/English counties who recorded those games. IRFU dont generally have full games up of these games so unless other countries at the 5 nations recorded games and put them up then there wont be any coverage of those games


  • #1774
    irishfan9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Potential Leinster Academy next season:

    Year 3
    Openside: Will Connors(22/UCD/Clongowes)
    Centre: Conor O'Brien(22/Clontarf/Mullingar RFC)
    Centre: Jimmy O'Brien(21/UCD/Newbridge)*
    Back Three: Terry Kennedy(22/St. Marys/St. Marys)*
    Back Three: Hugo Keenan(22/UCD/Blackrock)*
    Back Three: Jack Kelly(20/DUFC/St. Michaels)

    Year 2
    TH Prop: Jack Aungier(19/St.Marys/Suttonians RFC)
    Hooker: Ronan Kelleher(20/Lansdowne/St. Michaels)
    Lock/Blindside: Oisin Dowling(21/Lansdowne/St. Michaels)
    Scrumhalf: Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Clontarf/Belvedere)
    Outhalf/Centre: Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD/Skerries RFC)
    Centre: Gavin Mullin(20/UCD/Blackrock)
    Centre/Wing: Tommy O'Brien(20/UCD/Blackrock)

    Year 1
    Hooker: Eoghan Clarke(19-20/Wanderers/CBC Monkstown)
    Lock: Cormac Daly(20/Clontarf/North Kildare RFC)
    Lock: Jack Dunne(19/DUFC/St. Michaels)
    Scrumhalf: Patrick Patterson(19-20/UCD/Blackrock)
    Outhalf: Harry Byrne(19/UCD/St. Michaels)
    Centre: David Hawkshaw(18-19/Belvedere)
    Back Three: Michael Silvester(20/DUFC/Clongowes)

    * sevens players this season, assume they return to Leinster next season.


  • #1775
    irishfan9
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    Top prospects for Munster academy:

    James French(LH Prop/UCC) - u20
    Luke Masters(TH Prop/CBC) - u19
    Billy Scannell(Hooker/PBC) - u19
    Thomas Ahern(Lock/Waterpark RFC) - u18
    Luke Clohessy(Backrow/Roscrea) - u19
    Colin Sisk(Scrumhalf/Dolphin) - u19
    Ben Healy(Outhalf/Glenstal) - u19
    Sean French(Centre/PBC) - u19
    Jonathan Wren(Back Three/PBC) - u19


  • #1776
    Wegians89
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    Any word on James newey joining any of the Irish provinces academies?


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  • #1777
    The Lost Sheep
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Any word on James newey joining any of the Irish provinces academies?
    Doubt it. Think he'll stay with Bristol despite going on loan to Jersey for rest of season


  • #1778
    Wegians89
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Doubt it. Think he'll stay with Bristol despite going on loan to Jersey for rest of season

    Bristol just announced today he was leaving


  • #1779
    The Lost Sheep
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Bristol just announced today he was leaving
    Hadnt seen that but that being released from championship side doesnt really indicate he'll be signed by province.


  • #1780
    Wegians89
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Hadnt seen that but that being released from championship side doesnt really indicate he'll be signed by province.

    Bring Irish qualified you could see a province trying to get him over here playing some rugby though. Looks a good prospect


  • #1781
    The Lost Sheep
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Bring Irish qualified you could see a province trying to get him over here playing some rugby though. Looks a good prospect
    He is irish qualified but that isnt really enough. Now if he went on to play Irish 20s for the World Championships he could come over but will he be involved with them?


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  • #1782
    irishfan9
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    newey is not good enough


  • #1783
    irishfan9
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    Top prospects for Ulster academy:

    John McKee(LH Prop/Campbell) - u18
    Claytan Milligan(Hooker/Ballynahinch) - u19
    Conor McMeniman(Lock/Letterkenny RFC) - u18
    Azur Allison(Backrow/Ballymena) - u19
    Graham Curtis(Scrumhalf/Malone) - u19
    Ben Houston(Outhalf/Ballymena) - u19
    Stewart Moore(Centre/Balleman) - u19
    Aaron Sexton(Back Three/Bangor) - u18


  • #1784
    Locke_Lamora
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Top prospects for Munster academy:

    James French(LH Prop/UCC) - u20
    Luke Masters(TH Prop/CBC) - u19
    Billy Scannell(Hooker/PBC) - u19
    Thomas Ahern(Lock/Waterpark RFC) - u18
    Luke Clohessy(Backrow/Roscrea) - u19
    Colin Sisk(Scrumhalf/Dolphin) - u19
    Ben Healy(Outhalf/Glenstal) - u19
    Sean French(Centre/PBC) - u19
    Jonathan Wren(Back Three/PBC) - u19
    I was surprised that Sisk wasn't involved in the Japan or France games. Are Craig Casey or Conor Phillips not likely?


  • #1785
    case885
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    Locke_Lamora wrote:
    I was surprised that Sisk wasn't involved in the Japan or France games. Are Craig Casey or Conor Phillips not likely?


    Casey is already in the academy.


  • #1786
    Locke_Lamora
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Top prospects for Ulster academy:

    John McKee(LH Prop/Campbell) - u18
    Claytan Milligan(Hooker/Ballynahinch) - u19
    Conor McMeniman(Lock/Letterkenny RFC) - u18
    Azur Allison(Backrow/Ballymena) - u19
    Graham Curtis(Scrumhalf/Malone) - u19
    Ben Houston(Outhalf/Ballymena) - u19
    Stewart Moore(Centre/Balleman) - u19
    Aaron Sexton(Back Three/Bangor) - u18
    I'm guessing the likes of David McCann, Ryan O'Neil, and Jamie McCartney are expected to do a year out of school before entering the academy?


  • #1787
    irishfan9
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    I'm guessing the likes of David McCann, Ryan O'Neil, and Jamie McCartney are expected to do a year out of school before entering the academy?

    was only listing one player per position and I'd rate Allison above those 3 at backrow..

    And yeah probably, due to number of backrows in academy:

    Academy
    Greg Jones(u22)
    Aaron Hall(u20)
    Joe Dunleavy(u20)
    Sub Academy
    Matthew Agnew(u20)
    Zac Ward(u20)
    Azur Allison(u19)
    School
    Jamie MacCartney(u19)
    David McCann(u18)
    Ryan O'Neill(u18)


  • #1788
    irishfan9
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    I was surprised that Sisk wasn't involved in the Japan or France games. Are Craig Casey or Conor Phillips not likely?

    Only picking the best prospect at each position... Casey already in, Phillips probably have to do a year in sub academy.


  • #1789
    irishfan9
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    Top prospects for Leinster academy:

    Thomas Clarkson(Prop/Blackrock) - u18
    Eoghan Clarke(Hooker/Wanderers) - u20
    Ryan Baird(Lock/St. Michaels) - u18
    Scott Penny(Backrow/St. Michaels) - u19
    Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf/St. Gerards) - u19
    Harry Byrne(Outhalf/UCD) - u19
    David Hawkshaw(Centre/Belvedere) - u19
    Michael Silvester(Back Three/DUFC) - u20


  • #1790
    irishfan9
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    Top prospects for Connacht academy:

    Michael Milne(Prop/Roscrea) - u19
    Dylan Tierney(Hooker/Corinthians) - u19
    Niall Murray(Lock/Buccaneers) - u19
    Cian Huxford(Backrow/Corinthians) - u19
    Colm Reilly(Scrumhalf/Ballinsloe) - u19
    Dylan Prendergast(Outhalf/Westport) - u18
    Saul O'Carroll(Centre/Buccaneers) - u18
    Hugh Lane(Back Three/Galwegians) - u19


  • #1791
    Wegians89
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Top prospects for Connacht academy:

    Michael Milne(Prop/Roscrea) - u19
    Dylan Tierney(Hooker/Corinthians) - u19
    Niall Murray(Lock/Buccaneers) - u19
    Cian Huxford(Backrow/Corinthians) - u19
    Colm Reilly(Scrumhalf/Ballinsloe) - u19
    Dylan Prendergast(Outhalf/Westport) - u18
    Saul O'Carroll(Centre/Buccaneers) - u18
    Hugh Lane(Back Three/Galwegians) - u19

    Thought Milne was with Leinster?


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  • #1792
    irishfan9
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Thought Milne was with Leinster?

    Joining Connacht as they have offered a full academy contract out of school where as leinster have not.


  • #1793
    Tarf1234
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    Was told yesterday Clarke is gone to Munster (was offered academy by both) and have been told Milne is staying in Leisnter.


  • #1794
    irishfan9
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Was told yesterday Clarke is gone to Munster (was offered academy by both) and have been told Milne is staying in Leisnter.

    interesting.. would suggest Clarke knows he is up against it with Kelleher in situ..


  • #1795
    Dubinusa
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    Charlie Ryan? No takers. Barron? Will there be a limit on the amount signed. Could leinster sign 10? Or is there fixed amount for each province?


  • #1796
    The Lost Sheep
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    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Charlie Ryan? No takers. Barron? Will there be a limit on the amount signed. Could leinster sign 10? Or is there fixed amount for each province?
    There isnt a limit. Provinces add as many or as few as they see necessary every year


  • #1797
    irishfan9
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    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Charlie Ryan? No takers. Barron? Will there be a limit on the amount signed. Could leinster sign 10? Or is there fixed amount for each province?

    Ryan is only under-19, so another year in the sub academy looks most likely.


  • #1798
    case885
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    irishfan9 wrote:
    interesting.. would suggest Clarke knows he is up against it with Kelleher in situ..


    I would've thought with Leinsters hookers pushing on now and Marshall/Scannell only 26 he'd have a better chance there.
    Strange Munster aren't backing there own with Scannell/Hodnett and Barron.


  • #1799
    irishfan9
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    case885 wrote: »
    I would've thought with Leinsters hookers pushing on now and Marshall/Scannell only 26 he'd have a better chance there.
    Strange Munster aren't backing there own with Scannell/Hodnett and Barron.

    easier to get past VOB than Kelleher. But who knows.

    yeah weird one.


  • #1800
    Tarf1234
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    case885 wrote: »
    I would've thought with Leinsters hookers pushing on now and Marshall/Scannell only 26 he'd have a better chance there.
    Strange Munster aren't backing there own with Scannell/Hodnett and Barron.

    easier to get past VOB than Kelleher. But who knows.

    yeah weird one.
    Ye was similar thinking to me. Easier to get past the next step but long term not sure.


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  • #1801
    irishfan9
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Ye was similar thinking to me. Easier to get past the next step but long term not sure.

    opens up a chance for a u19 hooker to try and get that spot, likely after next season.


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