Can you sue a pub landlord for slander

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-04-2018 08:48PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

About ten in the bar would have heard the conversation and my watch recorded it all.

I think you can legally record your own conversations in Ireland. In which case you can probably take a case for slander. The barman can refuse you for no reason but he can’t accuse you of a fight you didn’t participate in.

Hitman3000 · 10-04-2018 08:48PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote:

I donâ€™t if this is slander or not but â€œmoving onâ€ from personal attacks is not what you do.

Fair play you are as sensitive as the OP maybe you two should meet up for a pint. I'd say it would be great craic.

amcalester · 10-04-2018 08:49PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Fair play you are as sensitive as the OP maybe you two should meet up for a pint. I'd say it would be great craic.

I know a pub they can go to...oh wait...

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-04-2018 08:50PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Fair play you are as sensitive as the OP maybe you two should meet up for a pint. I'd say it would be great craic.

Sorry mate, I’m not a wimp. A wimp would take slander on the chin. Like a wimp. A wimpy wimp who knows his place.

Uncharted · 10-04-2018 08:50PM

Cool story........ just didn't happen though IMO.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 08:51PM

tomofson wrote: »

I'm sure you could get that without going through the process of suing someone.

He has a choice ..he said he is gonna speak with his other staff and to call him in a few days. He either doubles down to bar his barman no matter what or he takes the route of saying it may be mistaken identity it. His barman went as red as a beetroot when I challenged him and he heard me speak but was committed then.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 08:54PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Cool story........ just didn't happen though IMO.

Are you one of the these types who things this sort of stuff only happens to Irish in the UK. I’ve some news for you pal, it’s far more common here.

namloc1980 · 10-04-2018 08:56PM

There was a case on here recently of someone who sued successfully when they picked something up off a shelf in a shop and the shop worker asked if they had paid for it. Turned out the customer had come in with something bought in another shop and plonked it on a shelf in the next shop. They successfully sued for defamation. Based on that and the tenner example you'd have no bother getting a few bob compo.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-04-2018 08:56PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Are you one of the these types who things this sort of stuff only happens to Irish in the UK. I’ve some news for you pal, it’s far more common here.

I don’t get why you are assuming anti English prejudice rather than anything else, though.

I assume you are down the country, right?

Hitman3000 · 10-04-2018 08:57PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote:

Sorry mate, Iâ€™m not a wimp. A wimp would take slander on the chin. Like a wimp. A wimpy wimp who knows his place.

Don't need to be a wimp to realise life is too short for b.s. and drama unless of course that's what floats your boat.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 08:59PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I don’t get why you are assuming anti English prejudice rather than anything else, though.

I assume you are down the country, right?

Dublin west. I presume it as it’s there. I find it grand down the country actually as most areas have many people with uk accents who are products of migration from the area of their parents. Seems far less so in Dublin.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-04-2018 08:59PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

There was a case on here recently of someone who sued successfully when they picked something up off a shelf in a shop and the shop worker asked if they had paid for it. Turned out the customer had come in with something bought in another shop and plonked it on a shelf in the next shop. They successfully sued for defamation. Based on that and the tenner example you'd have no bother getting a few bob compo.

That decision by the court was ludicrous.

However a member staff who accuses someone publicly of bad behaviour is in trouble. There are ways to ban somebody with out dragging their name into disrepute

enricoh · 10-04-2018 08:59PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

About ten in the bar would have heard the conversation and my watch recorded it all.

Your watch recorded it all, says it all really. What fun times we live in!

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:01PM

enricoh wrote: »

Your watch recorded it all, says it all really. What fun times we live in!

It’s an app I have on the watch. I can just record the same as a phone on it. The other barman knows I’m easy going as we talked about me paying using a crypto linked debit card and also using the android pay on my watch to tap for payments.

kneemos · 10-04-2018 09:05PM

Says he has insurance and is obviously not bothered so sue his ass.

Mrs OBumble · 10-04-2018 09:14PM

So all the LL has to do is say "sorry, I've checked with the staff, we were mistaken, it wasn't you who caused trouble" - and you'll be happy?

He will then likely say "But we still don't want to serve you, 'cos you're fat / ugly / dress funny / <<insert your choice of anything except the Big Nine>> - so please leave and don't come back."

Will that make you feel better?

wexie · 10-04-2018 09:19PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

So all the LL has to do is say "sorry, I've checked with the staff, we were mistaken, it wasn't you who caused trouble" - and you'll be happy?

He will then likely say "But we still don't want to serve you, 'cos you're fat / ugly / dress funny / <<insert your choice of anything except the Big Nine>> - so please leave and don't come back."

Will that make you feel better?

Could a pub landlord just turn around and say 'we're not serving you cause I think you're a bellend?'

Not accusing anyone of bad behaviour, no discrimination according to the Big Nine, just an opinion like?

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:20PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

So all the LL has to do is say "sorry, I've checked with the staff, we were mistaken, it wasn't you who caused trouble" - and you'll be happy?

He will then likely say "But we still don't want to serve you, 'cos you're fat / ugly / dress funny / <<insert your choice of anything except the Big Nine>> - so please leave and don't come back."

Will that make you feel better?

No. If he said the first bit then fine and then I’d not go in there again but to be barred from a place based on pure nonsense or prejudice I will not accept.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:22PM

wexie wrote: »

Could a pub landlord just turn around and say 'we're not serving you cause I think you're a bellend?'

Not accusing anyone of bad behaviour, no discrimination according to the Big Nine, just an opinion like?

I won’t go in there again but if he wants to ban people because of his chip then surely it is him that is the bellend.

weldoninhio · 10-04-2018 09:25PM

wexie wrote: »

Could a pub landlord just turn around and say 'we're not serving you cause I think you're a bellend?'

Not accusing anyone of bad behaviour, no discrimination according to the Big Nine, just an opinion like?

Yep, and I’ve heard of a landlord who might just be using that excuse soon.

joe40 · 10-04-2018 09:28PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure you could sue a landlord for virtally anything, Sue them successfully - that would be a different story.

andekwarhola · 10-04-2018 09:31PM

I feel that you have no choice but to sue as it's the only pub in the entire country so it would be very inconvenient to be barred from it.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:32PM

Well going by this it seems we can just make stuff up off the top of our head and just take action on it. I could start removing people from my office because ..well because. I can just say hey you did this and you must go. I don’t think so.

Hitman3000 · 10-04-2018 09:35PM

I'm beginning to think someone is up past their bedtime. Remember school in the morning.

shaunr68 · 10-04-2018 09:41PM

wexie wrote: »

Could a pub landlord just turn around and say 'we're not serving you cause I think you're a bellend?'

Yes, it's private property. They can choose to serve who they like, and turn away customers for any reason they wish as long as they don't discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation, disability etc.

He's within his rights to refuse to serve fatties, speccies or gingers

Mrs OBumble · 10-04-2018 09:43PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I could start removing people from my office because ..well because. I can just say hey you did this and you must go. I don’t think so.

Provided they've been there for less than 2 years, and provided your reason is anything except the Big Nine (or a proxy for any of them), then yes you can.

People can and have been not-hired, or fired, for being fat, ugly, late, living in the wrong suburb, liking the wrong sports team .. or even just plain being unlucky.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:44PM

shaunr68 wrote: »

Yes, it's private property. They can choose to serve who they like, and turn away customers for any reason they wish as long as they don't discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation, disability etc.

He's within his rights to refuse to serve fatties, speccies or gingers

Fatties and Gingers fair enough.

wexie · 10-04-2018 09:45PM

shaunr68 wrote: »

Yes, it's private property. They can choose to serve who they like, and turn away customers for any reason they wish as long as they don't discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation, disability etc.

He's within his rights to refuse to serve fatties, speccies or gingers

So then why would they ever say anything that could possibly (remotely) be construed as slander?

Even if someone was running around pisht, nekid and with their underpants on their head and one of these sticking out of their arse you'd never accuse them of bad behaviour if it could be construed as slander?

bobmalooka · 10-04-2018 09:45PM

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Well going by this it seems we can just make stuff up off the top of our head and just take action on it. I could start removing people from my office because ..well because. I can just say hey you did this and you must go. I don’t think so.

You could remove people from your office because..well because.

No need to make up stuff.

cryptocurrency · 10-04-2018 09:47PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I'm beginning to think someone is up past their bedtime. Remember school in the morning.

I think your 2700 plus posts in less than one year where most of them is just snipping from the sidelines on the topic you focused in that evening clearly indicate that you have little going on in your life.
As for being in school....I sense it was a long time ago you were in school and now life has passed you by you watch the clock tick down on boards.ie. Oh the joys.

Can you sue a pub landlord for slander

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