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Should Irish rail change the livery of the DART

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  • #32
    GM228
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    MGWR wrote: »
    Even coming up with "DART" was an expense (versus "Dublin District"). Would have been cheaper to stick with the broken wheel CIE logo, which is what the 8100/8300 class were delivered with; and it was even extra money to come up with the original two-tone green scheme versus the standard (at the time) orange and black, and even then not all of the fleet was converted from the "black and tan" with the white stripe on top from the 1960s, with the Park Royals and the 6100-class push-pulls retired still wearing it. Lots of money on paint jobs on the Irish railways over the past half century but not enough on the railways themselves.

    There was no money to "come up with" the original DART livery.

    The livery was based on the Bombardier designed two-tone green livery they supplied the CIE KD buses in, the green represented CIEs Dublin operations and from 1987 when Dublin Bus was set up they adopted the two-tone green livery (with an added orange stripe) as their corporate livery.


  • #33
    MGWR
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    GM228 wrote: »
    There was no money to "come up with" the original DART livery.

    The livery was based on the Bombardier designed two-tone green livery they supplied the CIE KD buses in, the green represented CIE(')s Dublin operations and from 1987 when Dublin Bus was set up they adopted the two-tone green livery (with an added orange stripe) as their corporate livery.
    Yes, there was indeed money; opinion will not change facts. Every time there's a "rebranding", it costs public money to design that brand, to trademark it, to come up with the graphics, to set up the contracts for the painting plus colour matching what with greens requiring same not to mention the expense of different light-fast pigments based on colour (lest anyone forget, the remaining Atlanteans were repainted in the two-tone green colour scheme, both the CIE-bodied and Van Hool McArdle-bodied ones), ad nauseam. I have to say that although coming up with the "Bus Eireann" brand was an expense, sticking with the provincial bus service's cream/red scheme was at least a money-saver on design as was staying with the Expressway name plus Expressway amber/red scheme.


  • #34
    TheBoyConor
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    GarIT wrote: »
    I want these http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/uploads/monthly_2012_08/Orange03.jpg.b39c73fa2357b5f009c2c78d223c221b.jpg

    Oh Lord!
    I shot my pants!


  • #35
    whisky_galore
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    It looks fine, it's a relief to have a solid established 'brand' colour scheme in contrast to the almost constant rebranding and many shades of grey and/or green of IE or IR or whatever they want to call themselves now.


  • #36
    Stephen15
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    As much as I dislike the ICRs I think the livery they currently have suits them and looks well on them.


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  • #37
    dowlingm
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    cython wrote: »
    You wish it'd only be a year of mismatches! The 29k repaint kicked off a few years ago at this point and they're still not all done!
    same here with the needless reprinting of GO Transit's fleet from green to "snot green", so in any given consist you have either green, faded green in need of repaint, or snot. Desperate looking.


  • #38
    MGWR
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    GarIT wrote: »
    I want these http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/uploads/monthly_2012_08/Orange03.jpg.b39c73fa2357b5f009c2c78d223c221b.jpg
    Yes, this made me smile in spite of myself. And in spite of having those trains from Cho-seon replace perfectly fine Mark 3s.


  • #39
    MGWR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MGWR


    dowlingm wrote: »
    same here with the needless reprinting of GO Transit's fleet from green to "snot green", so in any given consist you have either green, faded green in need of repaint, or snot. Desperate looking.
    Perhaps GO should have stuck with the simple bare metal of the Hawker-Siddeley RTC-85SP/Ds, i.e. the single-level cars that, like CIE's AEC 2600 class, were converted from DMU to push-pull. (Video shows them running on Montreal's AMT.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxvZLtVau5o


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