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Al Porter Scandal

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  • #1892
    terryduff12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    Sure why would a Man report it, its not the same as if it happened to a Woman, Man are strong and tough we don't cry over such things. To report such a thing you probably get some sniggering much the same as reporting your Wife or girlfriend for beating you up. You object to men stealing the limelight, hope no Male comes to you looking for help sure your only stealing the limelight you'd tell them right.


  • #1893
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    And you still haven't answered it.

    Sigh… Okay, in a hypothetical situation where a comedian was job presenting on television and radio several months beforehand for groping women and allegedly did an unannounced gig (that I can't find anything about online) in a small venue while there was a whole other media shítstorm going on in relation to a high profile court case that had everybody's attention, I would imagine that the reaction, or lack thereof, would most likely be the same.

    Does that help?


  • #1894
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    "a man will always be less of a victim than a woman in the same scenario?"

    Assuming that the question is do I believe the above to be true?

    It's an impossible question to answer. Every situation is different. In the case we're talking about, would it have been more serious if the victims were women? Yes, to me, it would have been more serious.


  • #1895
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Sigh… Okay, in a hypothetical situation where a comedian was job presenting on television and radio several months beforehand for groping women and allegedly did an unannounced gig (that I can't find anything about online) in a small venue while there was a whole other media shítstorm going on in relation to a high profile court case that had everybody's attention, I would imagine that the reaction, or lack thereof, would most likely be the same.

    Does that help?

    What's with the sighing? Honestly, can you have a debate without resorting to sighing and your earlier "sooo, what's your problem?" comment?

    Re. your answer, fair enough, if that's your opinion. My own opinion would be that there would be significantly more "noise" and outrage around a straight male....but that's just my opinion.

    Thanks for finally answering though.


  • #1896
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    What's with the sighing? Honestly, can you have a debate without resorting to sighing and your earlier "sooo, what's your problem?" comment?

    Re. your answer, fair enough, if that's your opinion. My own opinion would be that there would be significantly more "noise" and outrage around a straight male....but that's just my opinion.

    Thanks for finally answering though.

    You know what, I am coming across as a snarky prick so I apologise.

    I think there'd might be more noise about the Al Porter thing if the fall out from the Belfast trial wasn't ongoing although I think most people are happy enough to ignore him at this stage - if he was a straight man groping women would there be more noise about it? I honestly don't know but if there was, I think there would also be a corresponding rise in the debate in the validity of the victims if other threads in boards are anything to go by.


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  • #1897
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    In the case we're talking about, would it have been more serious if the victims were women? Yes, to me, it would have been more serious.

    I don't like that attitude or opinion to be honest but at least you've bottle to say it out.


  • #1898
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Omackeral wrote: »
    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    In the case we're talking about, would it have been more serious if the victims were women? Yes, to me, it would have been more serious.

    I don't like that attitude or opinion to be honest but at least you've bottle to say it out.

    It's a scumbag's opinion.


  • #1899
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    smurgen wrote: »
    It's a scumbag's opinion.

    Assuming that was aimed at me and not Omackerel... as someone who hasn't interacted with me once on this thread, would you like to explain that statement... or shall we just leave the irony hanging in the air?


  • #1900
    Creol1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Creol1


    I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

    Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.


  • #1901
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Creol1 wrote: »
    I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

    Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.

    Can you point out the posts where I have defended sexual assault?

    EDIT: Several posters have disagreed with my position on this particular case. But they have debated their points and we have largely agreed to disagree. You have actually reported someone simply because they disagree with you. Hence, no action has been taken. Open your eyes and read my posts. And when you fail to find any posts where I have defended sexual assaults, then I trust you will be as quick to correct your sickening statement above as you were to fling the mud in the first place.


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  • #1902
    Bob_Marley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    Creol1 wrote: »
    I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

    Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.

    According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.


  • #1903
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ?

    You're right. There are no opinions. It's all a big conspiracy.
    We're allllll out to get ya, Bob...


  • #1904
    Bob_Marley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    You're right. There are no opinions. It's all a big conspiracy.
    We're allllll out to get ya, Bob...

    I suppose if you have no true points you can always resort to attacking the poster instead.


  • #1905
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour


  • #1906
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    I suppose if you have no true points you can always resort to attacking the poster instead.

    I'll decline, thanks... have a read of your previous post though if that's what you're into.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

    He doesn't appear to be the sharpest tool in the box, it sounds like something he'd do!


  • #1907
    Bob_Marley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    I'll decline, thanks... have a read of your previous post though if that's what you're into.

    So again other than attacking the poster still you still have nothing.


  • #1908
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

    Posted by The George...

    https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712
    Contrary to erroneous reports on social media, Al Porter was not booked to perform in the bar last night and was in attendance as a regular customer.

    He appeared briefly on the stage after his name was picked randomly out of a hat in one of the games involving audience participation organised by the entertainment act that had been booked.

    Our focus continues to be on ensuring that all our guests enjoy a great night out when they visit The George.


  • #1909
    Bob_Marley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Posted by The George...

    https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712

    Funny. That's just what happened Ibrahim Halawa as well, he just happened to wander by accident onto the stage of a Muslim Brotherhood protest.
    These poor lads have no luck.


  • #1910
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    So again other than attacking the poster still you still have nothing.

    You're having a stormer, Lad... one of these days you might actually have an opinion on something


  • #1911
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

    Oh no he didn't!


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  • #1912
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    blade1 wrote: »
    Oh no he didn't!

    Watch out, he’s behind you!


  • #1913
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Posted by The George...

    https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712

    Would he not have been booed off the stage in that case?


  • #1914
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

    Well then speak up about it - who are you blaming here?


  • #1915
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    Funny. That's just what happened Ibrahim Halawa as well, he just happened to wander by accident onto the stage of a Muslim Brotherhood protest.
    These poor lads have no luck.

    How are these things even remotely similar?


  • #1916
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    How are these things even remotely similar?

    One goes around doing stuff he shouldn't and the other is .... Oh!


  • #1917
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

    Al Porter's downfall came as a direct result of people coming out and speaking about their experiences in response to the #metoo movement. I don't really feel that what he did was swept under the carpet either. Nobody wants to be associated with him.


  • #1918
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Al Porter's downfall came as a direct result of people coming out and speaking about their experiences in response to the #metoo movement. I don't really feel that what he did was swept under the carpet either. Nobody wants to be associated with him.

    I don't think that's necessarily true, while there hasn't been any massive outpouring of support, none of (from what I can see) of the RTE and TodayFM crowd have distanced themselves from him.

    The recent front page on a rag, of his "changed ways" shows there's a bit of an open door still.


  • #1919
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Bob_Marley wrote: »
    According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

    Well its up to men to create those me too hashtags and spur male celebrities into doing things like that. But men dont genuinely care enough about male sexual assault victims for that to happen, nobody is stopping this movement other than men, women certainly arent. Women did it because they care


  • #1920
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    razorblunt wrote: »
    I don't think that's necessarily true, while there hasn't been any massive outpouring of support, none of (from what I can see) of the RTE and TodayFM crowd have distanced themselves from him.

    The recent front page on a rag, of his "changed ways" shows there's a bit of an open door still.

    I seriously don't see there being an open door for him. Look at how quick the George were to distance themselves from him.


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  • #1921
    Triceratops Ballet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    Assuming that the question is do I believe the above to be true?

    It's an impossible question to answer. Every situation is different. In the case we're talking about, would it have been more serious if the victims were women? Yes, to me, it would have been more serious.

    I'm not sure if that's more disrespectful to men or women :confused:


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