Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

Hitman3000 wrote: »

This is the fourth thread I have seen today where the topic of the thread had nothing to do with water charges but yet they still were referenced. The Irish version of Godwins Law methinks.

No way, you won't pay

No.

A civilised country should not be in the business of killing people.

Our society is supposed to be better than that and raise above mob rule.

Delighted that Irish people voted this down by 62% to 38% in 2002 and that should be the end of it.

There is no need for it, does not act as a deterrent and mistakes cannot be rectified.

Also, posters having a go at Ireland, saying that could not implement it or comparing it to Irish Water are really talking rubbish.

It would be a sentence carried out as a part of the justice system like jail and is not just an administration issue.

Omackeral wrote: »

I found that very clever actually!

Yer man graham Dwyer would come to mind as someone you would like wiped away via the death penalty but keeping such an abomination of a human being behind bars until he dies is probably more torturous for him...?

I'm against the death penalty in almost every instance.

However, I do think there are elements of very rare exceptions where the guilty party is obvious, the crime is of extreme severity, and particularly when the situation in the location is one of an serious emergency, bordering on a warlike state. There are also very rare examples where people are evil almost beyond belief. In summary, if the person is an enemy of the state and is an active danger to people at large then I believe there is a case for them to be executed. There is a tipping point in my opinion where a person can become such an extreme danger that it almost becomes a less damaging act to execute the guilty party.

There are many examples in history (not in this country) where a person has an almost fundamental inability to stop their urge to harm others or exploit a lack of defences for their own personal gain at the severe cost of others. For clarity, I wouldn't ever recommend such a punishment for vindictive or "let 'em fry" type gore tactics, purely from a sad almost reluctance to do so for public safety reasons. It would also be an extremely rare recommendation, in this country maybe countable on one hand over the last 60 years.

I'm not talking about the Harry Gleeson's here, I'm talking more along the lines of the Tim McVeigh, Peter Sutcliffe, Fred West, Ted Bundy, Hitler. These are obviously sick, disturbed individuals guilty of almost incomparable crimes, and there was almost nothing their victims could have done to save themselves. It's an entirely different situation to somebody of questionable guilt and who might have committed a crime in anger and to a very specific person as a result (I'm not defending that, but it doesn't suggest they are a danger to anybody else). These severely dangerous guys are a severe danger to others so long as they are alive, especially so when the people involved have a habit of breaking out of prison.

It always goes back to the United States on pretty much anything like this, but the US executes a minuscule amount of people compared to China. They also execute fewer people per capita than Iran (significantly so) and Saudi Arabia. Iran and Saudi Arabia have a lower murder rate per capita than the United States. The United States isn't within an asses roar of being among the highest per capita murder rate nations in the world, they are comfortably middle of the road in that regard. The biggest proponent of capital punishment in the world is China, and their murder rate is one of the lowest in the world. There seems no pattern between capital punishment and the homicide rate, so people looking to use it as an example of a deterrent or otherwise to committing serious crime appears unreasonable. That being said, a deterrent is not the only reason for its existence.

The examples of highly dangerous people seem (and indeed are) extremely unlikely in a country such as Ireland, but it is not beyond comprehension. We have one of the lowest rates of murder per capita for any country on the planet, so whatever we are doing I'm grateful we don't seem to have a pressing need to solve a homicide problem.

No!
The past week confirmed it for me with people online saying they'd send somebody to prison when there was no evidence if they were on a jury.

Johnnycanyon wrote: »

I posted earlier that capital punishment was barbaric and should never be allowed, and I firmly believe this..But imagine if one of your family was murdered in a most horrendous fashion would you like to see the perpetrator executed??

Of course. And that’s why families don’t sit in judgement.

Face it lads, it's gone for good and it's not coming back to this country. Good riddance.

There's more hope of cloning unicorns.