Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

Ahhhh for forks sake! · 03-04-2018 08:42PM #1

Lately I'm reading news threads on Facebook and more and more I'm seeing remarks such as "hang him", "kill him", "burn him". I thought we were a modern society where no one would yearn for the return of the gallows.

Is it something you'd welcome? Would you like to see the gallows room reintroduced in Ireland?

I for one, would NOT. There's too high a chance of a wrongful conviction or a person lying in court.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-04-2018 08:45PM

No, but I'd like Life to mean life in some circumstances.

The Backwards Man · 03-04-2018 08:46PM

Yes, but only for proponents of public polls.

Johnnycanyon · 03-04-2018 08:46PM

Maurice Riordan wrote: »

Lately I'm reading news threads on Facebook and more and more I'm seeing remarks such as "hang him", "kill him", "burn him". I thought we were a modern society where no one would yearn for the return of the gallows.

Is it something you'd welcome? Would you like to see the gallows room reintroduced in Ireland?

I for one, would NOT. There's too high a chance of a wrongful conviction or a person lying in court.

No absolutely not,it's a barbaric act but I do believe life in prison should mean life..

o1s1n · 03-04-2018 08:46PM

No as I don't want to live in a country where I can be executed by the state.

TheValeyard · 03-04-2018 08:51PM

Damon Nutritious Physician wrote: »

No, but I'd like Life to mean life in some circumstances.

This sums it up nicely.

Capital Punishment is barbaric. A civilised society should have no need for it.

JJayoo · 03-04-2018 08:53PM

No because this is Ireland and it would take about 10 years and cost a few million for each one.

I would rather if we could subtract our prisons to Russia, send all criminals out there and we could pay for their upkeep

Hector Bellend · 03-04-2018 08:54PM

didnt work the first time. wont work again

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-04-2018 08:55PM

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Bitches Be Trypsin · 03-04-2018 08:56PM

No, I believe that as humans we should have the right to life, if nothing else.

ancapailldorcha · 03-04-2018 08:56PM

No. Absolutely not. The state should not have the power to legally kill people under its care. I'm not counting the likes of police officers shooting terrorists and such for obvious reasons.

It baffles me that people think that this is a good idea. For one thing, it isn't a deterrent. For another, it's bloody expensive to execute people. Finally, it will result in innocent people being killed. It's murder plain and simple.

gerrybbadd · 03-04-2018 08:58PM

Yes, although I couldn't be the executioner.

Yes. This is a country that is very soft on crime.

For very serious offenses, bring it back in. Multiple benefits. It would act as a deterrent and would cost the state an absolute fortune. Keeping a prisoner costs huge money each year. Lock them up for life (a real life term) and the cost is astronomical

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 09:01PM

No, because its usually those unable to pay for a robust defence that find themselves on death row.

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 09:03PM

gerrybbadd wrote:

For very serious offenses, bring it back in. Multiple benefits. It would act as a deterrent and would cost the state an absolute fortune. Keeping a prisoner costs huge money each year. Lock them up for life (a real life term) and the cost is astronomical

The death penalty exists in many parts of the world, if it were a deterrent there would be nobody on death row in the countries that use it.

ceadaoin. · 03-04-2018 09:04PM

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Yes. This is a country that is very soft on crime.

For very serious offenses, bring it back in. Multiple benefits. It would act as a deterrent and would cost the state an absolute fortune. Keeping a prisoner costs huge money each year. Lock them up for life (a real life term) and the cost is astronomical

It not a deterrent at all. If that was the case then US states with the death penalty would have lower murder rates, but they dont. It still costs a fortune to house prisoners and also put them through the multiple appeals processes that are mandated.

super_furry · 03-04-2018 09:06PM

The Birmingham Six, The Guildford Four and countless other innocent people would be dead if the death penalty was available. You can’t undo a death sentence.

03-04-2018 09:09PM

Definitely not.

The judge at the trial of the Gilford four said if the death penalty was an option open for him he'd sentence them all to death. We all know how that ended up

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-04-2018 09:12PM

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Yes. This is a country that is very soft on crime.

For very serious offenses, bring it back in. Multiple benefits. It would act as a deterrent and would cost the state an absolute fortune. Keeping a prisoner costs huge money each year. Lock them up for life (a real life term) and the cost is astronomical

It hasn't proven to be a deterrent elsewhere. There are over 2900 currently on death row in the US and their murder rate is one of the highest in the world. Plus, it's estimated that 4.1% of those on death row have been wrongly convicted.

EPAndlee · 03-04-2018 09:15PM

Yes but only if we can bring the guillotine back

Butcher Boy · 03-04-2018 09:18PM

Yes, although I couldn't be the executioner.

EPAndlee wrote: »

Yes but only if we can bring the guillotine back

yes ,chop chop.

CrankyHaus · 03-04-2018 09:20PM

In the US states that still allow it executions are a costly, interminably drawn out process that appear to do nothing to deter crime and occasionally may kill the wrong person. In Ireland we executed Harry Gleeson after he was framed so there's no reason to believe we'd do better.

Simply giving adequate prison sentences, with some commonsense innovations like consecutive sentences for career criminals and electronic tagging of repeat offenders on bail and suspended sentences, would do plenty to curb crime.

sdanseo · 03-04-2018 09:20PM

No. I don't agree with the death penalty at all.

I clicked the second option in error, don't support it. It's all too easy for someone to be wrongly convicted.

If it was a perfect world where there was no possibility of miscarriages of justice, I would agree with it as a deterrent for capital murder, and perhaps a few other heinous crimes. But such a utopian error free society is laughable.

On a more practical level, the justice system is broken. Needs to be fixed to give better deterrent but also to rehabilitate and that requires more than just a visit from a social worker. There need to be housing / job supports there after people are released etc which there aren't and it's why we have such high occurences of low-level assault / public order / theft / general scumbaggery type crime. No deterrent.

RobertKK · 03-04-2018 09:21PM

No, it would mean we would have to leave the EU since it is banned in the EU.

RiderOnTheStorm · 03-04-2018 10:09PM

I am really torn on this one. On one hand I agree with the death penalty, in very limited cases. The punishment should fit the crime, and some crimes are so heinous that execution is justified.

On the other hand, I don't think Irish bureaucracy could implement, run and maintain it. I have same feelings about nuclear energy and arming all gardai. They cant even keep vehicles in running order for emergency services

Johnnycanyon · 03-04-2018 10:32PM

I posted earlier that capital punishment was barbaric and should never be allowed, and I firmly believe this..But imagine if one of your family was murdered in a most horrendous fashion would you like to see the perpetrator executed??

stimpson · 03-04-2018 10:37PM

Johnnycanyon wrote: »

I posted earlier that capital punishment was barbaric and should never be allowed, and I firmly believe this..But imagine if one of your family was murdered in a most horrendous fashion would you like to see the perpetrator executed??

Surely a person who had a family member murdered is not likely to be level headed in such a decision.

It’s a hard no from me in any circumstance.

Bob Harris · 03-04-2018 10:39PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

This sums it up nicely.

Capital Punishment is barbaric. A civilised society should have no need for it.

Unfortunately not all members of society are civilised.

Panthro · 03-04-2018 10:43PM

Bring back chain gangs. 16 hour days building roads for us lot. Make prison as undesirable as possible

suicide_circus · 03-04-2018 10:43PM

No.

The state can't even roll out something as simple as water charges. How could you think it has the competence to execute people?

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 10:47PM

suicide_circus wrote:

The state can't even roll out something as simple as water charges. How could you think it has the competence to execute people?

This is the fourth thread I have seen today where the topic of the thread had nothing to do with water charges but yet they still were referenced. The Irish version of Godwins Law methinks.

Dr_serious2 · 03-04-2018 10:52PM

There was a time when I had sympathy for the idea but not anymore.

I have no sympathy for certain criminals, particularly murderers of women, children or the elderly and it's not on moral grounds that I wouldn't want them executed.

However I don't trust the government, or the judiciary, to decide who lives or dies. Look at what a mess they have made of things over the years. The Garda scandals would erode your confidence too.

Anyone who still thinks the death penalty is a good idea should read about Harry Gleeson.

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