Fodder Crisis

I says · 29-03-2018 12:57PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yep. Seen his pits empty a good week ago. Not sure where his feed is coming from and he has plenty of mouths

Fcuk me and he parted with plenty of dollar for that place to start with not to long ago

jaymla627 · 29-03-2018 01:06PM

I says wrote: »

Reggie. wrote: »

Yep. Seen his pits empty a good week ago. Not sure where his feed is coming from and he has plenty of mouths

Fcuk me and he parted with plenty of dollar for that place to start with not to long ago

Was alot of cheerleading been done about the place too, lasts years poster boy for dairying is in serious bother trouble aswell, pity the print media don't run a few stories on these lads now to show the other side of milking 100"s of cows without carrying proper fodde reserves

I says · 29-03-2018 01:11PM

Look I’m not getting into hammering anyone for getting caught out for fodder it must be an awful situation to be in at the moment this year has been very late to get going.
But this part of the world here would 99 times out of a hundred only start warming up in the last week or two so lads would always be cutting it fine.

Reggie. · 29-03-2018 01:18PM

I says wrote: »

Look I’m not getting into hammering anyone for getting caught out for fodder it must be an awful situation to be in at the moment this year has been very late to get going.
But this part of the world here would 99 times out of a hundred only start warming up in the last week or two so lads would always be cutting it fine.

Lads I think just listen to the pros of certain farming practices and not the cobs that can hit ya. Like this year could take 5 years to recover from financially for some lads

Say my name · 29-03-2018 01:31PM

If you were to attribute this bad cold wet weather and late spring to the drop in this current solar cycle (and there's irrefutable evidence imo) then this winter/spring is only the start of it. We've another possible 3 or 4 years before the cycle starts on the uptick again.
Even then according to the mathematician Pr Valentina Zharkova the next cycle will be even lower and this winter/spring weather may become the norm for a while.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years

Mooooo · 29-03-2018 01:52PM

Say my name wrote: »

If you were to attribute this bad cold wet weather and late spring to the drop in this current solar cycle (and there's irrefutable evidence imo) then this winter/spring is only the start of it. We've another possible 3 or 4 years before the cycle starts on the uptick again.
Even then according to the mathematician Pr Valentina Zharkova the next cycle will be even lower and this winter/spring weather may become the norm for a while.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years

12/ 13 was as bad in terms of wet summer cold spring, it was prob worse down here back then.

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 01:53PM

Say my name wrote: »

If you were to attribute this bad cold wet weather and late spring to the drop in this current solar cycle (and there's irrefutable evidence imo) then this winter/spring is only the start of it. We've another possible 3 or 4 years before the cycle starts on the uptick again.
Even then according to the mathematician Pr Valentina Zharkova the next cycle will be even lower and this winter/spring weather may become the norm for a while.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years

Ah stop, that lad wants to be the new Ken Ring, we'll take every year as it comes.

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 01:56PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yep. Seen his pits empty a good week ago. Not sure where his feed is coming from and he has plenty of mouths

When you said out I though you meant gone out of dairying.

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 02:04PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Was alot of cheerleading been done about the place too, lasts years poster boy for dairying is in serious bother trouble aswell, pity the print media don't run a few stories on these lads now to show the other side of milking 100"s of cows without carrying proper fodde reserves

Wasn't there some young fella in Galway started in dairying and up to 300 cows now with only housing for 100 and the rest graze fodder beet in the field for the winter. I'd like to see how that works in practice, also it's goes against nitrate regulations that the rest of us have to adhere to.

whelan2 · 29-03-2018 02:15PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

When you said out I though you meant gone out of dairying.

That's what I thought too.

Mooooo · 29-03-2018 02:34PM

Lads any one can get caught out, was fcuked here in spring of 13 . Have enough this year thankfully just about. Tis only by experiencing things can we learn unfortunately

yewtree · 29-03-2018 02:40PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Lads any one can get caught out, was fcuked here in spring of 13 . Have enough this year thankfully just about. This only be experiencing things can we learn unfortunately

+1 on that spent two weeks in 2013 feeding imported Staw to milking cows and had a massive meal bill, but it passed just like this will.

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 02:49PM

yewtree wrote: »

+1 on that spent two weeks in 2013 feeding imported Staw to milking cows and had a massive meal bill, but it passed just like this will.

2013 was worse at least we have grass, in 2013 the ground was bare.

Say my name · 29-03-2018 02:52PM

Mooooo wrote: »

12/ 13 was as bad in terms of wet summer cold spring, it was prob worse down here back then.

13 was not bad here. Ground was dry but at least cows could graze. All silage is being hovered up now.
Stock in earlier this winter than normal. The winter has lengthened on both ends.
Silage that was promised for the west is being used by farmers for themselves and still no change on the forecast.

Say my name · 29-03-2018 03:13PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Ah stop, that lad wants to be the new Ken Ring, we'll take every year as it comes.

Well what's the alternative?
Listen to some prof from maynooth say that this is the result of climate change and human activities on the planet and we better change our ways or else that we should look forward to wetter winters and drier summers.
I'd take that in a heartbeat.
That ain't working out too well. There's more knowledge on the weather forums about weather teleconetics than this professor will ever know or acknowledge.

I was at a farm walk in the 90's when a teagasc speaker said that the way winters were going that in a few years there would be no winter.
That was the 90's and early 00's and winters were milder.
The warnings are there now and it's churlish to expect to go back to weather that we had back in the 90's and 00's. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
It would be stupid though not to expect that next winter and the winter after won't be the exact same now. There could be slight variations but the odds are in favour of it being cold anyway.

This ain't nothing new in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Famine_(1740%E2%80%9341)

freedominacup · 29-03-2018 03:17PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Lads any one can get caught out, was fcuked here in spring of 13 . Have enough this year thankfully just about. Tis only by experiencing things can we learn unfortunately

It's turn and turn about. A lad who never sent me a bill for bales I got from him in 2013 is running low and will collect what he's owed in kind from me shortly if there's not a big upturn soon. He never mentioned the bales to me since that time and I meet him regularly. In no way does he ever sail close to the wind but this is a bad spring. Another neighbour that there's a good bit of give and take with has his mark on another batch. We've been in his yard for feed on other occasions.

Reggie. · 29-03-2018 03:25PM

freedominacup wrote: »

It's turn and turn about. A lad who never sent me a bill for bales I got from him in 2013 is running low and will collect what he's owed in kind from me shortly if there's not a big upturn soon. He never mentioned the bales to me since that time and I meet him regularly. In no way does he ever sail close to the wind but this is a bad spring. Another neighbour that there's a good bit of give and take with has his mark on another batch. We've been in his yard for feed on other occasions.

Can't beat good neighbours

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 03:47PM

Say my name wrote: »

Well what's the alternative?
Listen to some prof from maynooth say that this is the result of climate change and human activities on the planet and we better change our ways or else that we should look forward to wetter winters and drier summers.
I'd take that in a heartbeat.
That ain't working out too well. There's more knowledge on the weather forums about weather teleconetics than this professor will ever know or acknowledge.

I was at a farm walk in the 90's when a teagasc speaker said that the way winters were going that in a few years there would be no winter.
That was the 90's and early 00's and winters were milder.
The warnings are there now and it's churlish to expect to go back to weather that we had back in the 90's and 00's. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
It would be stupid though not to expect that next winter and the winter after won't be the exact same now. There could be slight variations but the odds are in favour of it being cold anyway.

This ain't nothing new in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Famine_(1740%E2%80%9341)

There were some great winters during the 90's some years were so mild the grass grew through the winter. Back then it looked as if we could adopt an NZ farming style.

Don't get me started on that John Sweeney, every time I hear his voice especially the way he says climate change I am fit to put my fist through the television.

20silkcut · 29-03-2018 04:52PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

20silkcut wrote: »

Crops were very light too and were almost halfway there before they were cut. Farmers had it down to a fine art. That expertise is long gone and obsolete.

Definitely, could you imagine trying to cut today's silage crops with a knife bar mower.

There was an old farmer up the road from us who was able to get hay two days after cutting.
Very stemmy and very light.
Kevin Myers once wrote that the term saving hay was almost entirely peculiar to Ireland the rest of the world made hay.

Snowfire · 29-03-2018 06:15PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

How long did was he in it?

Though you were being a smart ass asking how long he was in the the water, (lough ennell). ..

Odelay · 29-03-2018 06:27PM

20silkcut wrote: »

Kevin Myers once wrote that the term saving hay was almost entirely peculiar to Ireland the rest of the world made hay.

Makes sense!

grassroot1 · 29-03-2018 07:06PM

The reality for us all is due to low margins we have been told to increase stocking rates beyond what is comfortable.There is now no fat left in the system for fodder resources. silage is too expensive to make just to store for a rainy day.
"Output equals profit" was the mantra from our Teagasc adviser for a long number of years.

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 07:07PM

Snowfire wrote: »

Though you were being a smart ass asking how long he was in the the water, (lough ennell). ..

I never even thought of that ðŸ˜€

Dakota Dan · 29-03-2018 07:25PM

Dairygold sent a text today about contacting area sales manager to find out how the stretch fodder a bit late now.

Reggie. · 29-03-2018 07:25PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Dairygold sent a text today about contacting area sales manager to find out how the stretch fodder a bit late now.

As usual the horse has bolted

whelan2 · 29-03-2018 07:32PM

Reggie. wrote: »

As usual the horse has bolted

The crisis isnt over....glanbia are also holding clinics. Heavy rain coming over the weekend

Reggie. · 29-03-2018 07:34PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The crisis isnt over....glanbia are also holding clinics. Heavy rain coming over the weekend

Yes but hard to stretch fodder now with very little of anything about. Should have started it a month ago in case.

whelan2 · 29-03-2018 07:38PM

I suppose at least they are doing something

Reggie. · 29-03-2018 07:40PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I suppose at least they are doing something

Yeah but only answer at this stage is ration as anyone that had spare fodder are now getting tight themselves

Say my name · 29-03-2018 07:46PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The crisis isnt over....glanbia are also holding clinics. Heavy rain coming over the weekend

Could perhaps scrub heavy rain from that post and put in snow instead.
Especially for Monday.

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