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Most sensational Irish trials...

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  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can't remember the location but that awful tragedy where a young man took the life of his two younger brothers before taking his own. The media coverage was intrusive at times. It was a heartbreaking case.

    Also the Eamon Lillis trial. I was fascinated by it. It reminded me how we never know what goes on behind closed doors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Was the Sophie Toscan du Plantier case mentioned? If not, I'd like to mention the Sophie Toscan du Plantier case.

    Also the missing women in the so-called Leinster Triangle where Larry Murphy was a chief suspect. Murphy was the equivenlant of the Boogieman in Irish media for years.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brendan O Donnell for killing Imelda Riney her baby son & the parish priest back in 1994, very chilling case


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    I can't remember the location but that awful tragedy where a young man took the life of his two younger brothers before taking his own. The media coverage was intrusive at times. It was a heartbreaking case.


    I think that was in Charleville.

    Horrible for the family.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,746 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    George Best's trial for Man Utd. was probably sensational


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    seamus wrote: »
    This I was going to post, my Dad would still mention it from time to time.

    One feature about the case was the fact that he was black (though looking at old pictures, he's more Middle Eastern than African). Apparently there was some mild hysteria from the likes of old women about black men climbing into bedrooms and murdering you in your sleep, talking about the whole country going to pot.

    Shan Mohangi is of Indian descent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Roadtoad


    Roadtoad wrote: »
    The Maamtrasna murders. Good book about it too.
    Five murdered, then three executed.

    So there's a presidential pardon coming, from Republic of Ireland, though the trial was in a Crown court in 1882.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2018/0328/950781-mam-trasna-murders/

    (not to dig up old threads which gets up the Mods' noses......)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wow, we have an awful lot of horrible crime stories in this country! :(

    Some are fascinating though.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    ...programme on the Crime channel on the murder of Rachel O'Reilly ...

    so who's going to do Countdown now?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Roger Casement

    Or that family of Gaelgoirs who were set up and hanged in a court where only English was used.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    so who's going to do Countdown now?

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Rachel Riley. My number two on my "dying to bang" list

    And number one is IT !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Chirpy Burpy Cheap Sheep

    Who frightened Chris the sheep with rumours about a sheep-eating beast?
    Chris was a sheep who has won the King of the Sheep competition several times and was considered a sure thing.
    Father Ted exposes the culprit, Fargo Boyle, before the sheep judging judges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭baylah17


    Harry Gleeson.
    Framed by the Gardai for a murder he didnt commit and hanged, all because someone had to be convicted and he was protestant!
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/harry-gleeson-granted-pardon-over-1941-murder-1.2472693


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,481 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The whole Liam lawlor trials and his subsequent prison sentences for not naming who he received corrupt payments from were quite sensational as one of the first times a TD was locked up. He was even released for a few hours from mountjoy on one of his stays to fight his corner in the Mail.

    Then his unfortunate death in Moscow created even more sensation.

    Most of which was fabricated by the Sunday Independent


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    The Invincibles killings of Cavendish and Burke in the Phoenix Park in 1882 was a media sensation. Somewhat typically James Carey, who was the leader, planned the attack and supplied the knives, turned informer and grassed up the rest of them. Because of all the newspaper coverage he was recognised when he tried to escape to South Africa and assassinated.

    http://www.theirishstory.com/2012/07/31/the-invincibles-and-the-phoenix-park-killings-2/


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Roadtoad wrote: »
    So there's a presidential pardon coming, from Republic of Ireland, though the trial was in a Crown court in 1882.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2018/0328/950781-mam-trasna-murders/

    (not to dig up old threads which gets up the Mods' noses......)


    Was going to post this, too, having heard a very moving interview on Morning Ireland this morning with Seán Ó Cuirreáin, the author of Éagóir who has examined the murders and trials in detail.

    Morning Ireland: Seán Ó Cuirreáin discussing the Maamtrasna murders

    Ó Cuirreáin said that some €160,000 in today's money was given by the British government to "witnesses" to give testimony that would ensure convictions. He pointed out that the British viewed it all as part of the Land War and wanted to teach a lesson.

    Maolra Seoighe

    A documentary has been made based on Ó Cuirreáin's above book, and it will be shown on TG4 presently. There's now loads of stuff online about this case - and it's yet another instance of why the death penalty is wrong. This is a very informative article by Lorna Siggins in The Irish Times that's well worth reading:

    A wrongful hanging in Connemara, 1882: Three Irish speakers were condemned to death – in a language they did not understand...





  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Arghus wrote: »
    I think the Graham Dwyer case was the one where I felt the media was going most into complete feeding frenzy mode.

    Some of these other trials people have mentioned, like The Kerry babies or Malcom McArthur, may have seemed quite shocking in more innocent times. But these were from eras where people got their news in smaller, less hyperbolic doses. The Dwyer trial was the first massive trial in Ireland of this new era, where information and "news" is everywhere, not just on newspapers, TV, Radio, or on Computer screens but also on our constant smartphone companions that we take with us everywhere and barely remove from our faces.

    The trial was inescapable. Endless days of the media pouring over lurid details. The fact that so much of it involved sex and what went on behind closed doors, with people you wouldn't exactly have expected it from, made it all a pretty explosive package of sensational awfulness.
    Yep, throw in the 'leafy suburb' of south dublin bit the media so love and they've got themselves a winner


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    Yamanoto wrote: »
    The 1964 trial of Shan Mohangi (a South African medical student attending RCSI), who strangled and dismembered his 16-year-old girlfiend, Hazel Mullen, and attempted to incinerate her remains in the Green Tureen restaurant on Harcourt Street.

    Having seen his death sentence reduced to manslaughter & serving a paltry four years of a seven year sentence, he changed his name and returned to Durban after his release & ran for political office, though he was outed for his crime & withdrew his candidacy.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/shan-mohangi-s-dublin-past-comes-back-to-haunt-him-1.729751


    Jesus. And some people in After Hours say sentences are lenient now? 4 years in an Irish prison for murdering, chopping up and attempting to burn a 16-year-old girl's body in the restaurant's oven.
    Mr Mohangi had changed his name to Narentuk Jumuna following his deportation from Ireland after serving four years of a seven-year sentence for the gruesome manslaughter of his 16-year-old girlfriend and co-worker in the Green Tureen restaurant in Harcourt Street where he worked as a part-time chef.... The sensational 1964 court case that followed Hazel Mullen’s death had shocked Ireland. At the time Mohangi was a medical student at the Royal College of Surgeons. He strangled Ms Mullen in a jealous rage, then dismembered her body and tried to incinerate her remains in the oven of the Green Tureen.

    The 22-year-old was interrupted by people living in the building who became suspicious of the smoke coming from the kitchen.

    Having originally been sentenced to death for murder, his conviction was reduced to manslaughter and the sentence to seven years following an appeal.


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    XR3i wrote: »
    garlic man
    Jesus. And some people in After Hours say sentences are lenient now? 4 years in an Irish prison for murdering, chopping up and attempting to burn a 16-year-old girl's body in the restaurant's oven.

    And to think Garlic Man got sentenced to 800 years in an Irish prison just for mistakenly putting the wrong VAT rate on the product. Apples. Garlic. Sure they'd confuse the best of us...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Roadtoad


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    This is the standard text on it, in English. Maamtrasna, the murders and the mystery by Jarleth Waldron. Any Irish library will get it for you within a few days.

    http://www.deburcararebooks.com/maamtrasna-the-murders-and-the-mystery/


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Roadtoad wrote: »
    The Maamrasna murders. Good book about it too.
    Five murdered, then three executed.
    maudgonner wrote: »
    It's still a taboo topic in the area, over a hundred years later.
    Roadtoad wrote: »
    So there's a presidential pardon coming, from Republic of Ireland, though the trial was in a Crown court in 1882.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2018/0328/950781-mam-trasna-murders/

    (not to dig up old threads which gets up the Mods' noses......)
    Was going to post this, too, having heard a very moving interview on Morning Ireland this morning with Seán Ó Cuirreáin, the author of Éagóir who has examined the murders and trials in detail.

    Morning Ireland: Seán Ó Cuirreáin discussing the Maamtrasna murders

    Ó Cuirreáin said that some €160,000 in today's money was given by the British government to "witnesses" to give testimony that would ensure convictions. He pointed out that the British viewed it all as part of the Land War and wanted to teach a lesson.

    Maolra Seoighe

    A documentary has been made based on Ó Cuirreáin's above book, and it will be shown on TG4 presently. There's now loads of stuff online about this case - and it's yet another instance of why the death penalty is wrong. This is a very informative article by Lorna Siggins in The Irish Times that's well worth reading:

    A wrongful hanging in Connemara, 1882: Three Irish speakers were condemned to death – in a language they did not understand...




    Saw the documentary on TG4 on Wednesday night, far and away the best thing I've seen on said channel in years. I also think it's available on the TG4 player.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    diomed wrote: »
    Chirpy Burpy Cheap Sheep

    Who frightened Chris the sheep with rumours about a sheep-eating beast?
    Chris was a sheep who has won the King of the Sheep competition several times and was considered a sure thing.
    Father Ted exposes the culprit, Fargo Boyle, before the sheep judging judges.

    Fcuking hell!


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