Trolls

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 11:25AM #1

Is it just me or are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight? At least, that's how they appear from their profiles anyway. I know the straight thing is harder to identify. I'm not on Twitter anymore and I rarely look at the comments on YouTube these days either but it always seemed to be guys that were doing the trolling. Why aren't more women encouraged to follow this online rite of passage?

I'm referring to obvious trolling. The 'jury's out' type trolling complicates things because the 'are they trolling or are they revolutionary minds?' debate derails my original point - I've never seen female trolls.

I swear I'm not trolling, genuine observation I made and want to see am I right or just some old prejudiced fart.

stimpson · 27-03-2018 11:30AM

I'm an old black lesbian and I love to troll.

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 11:34AM

stimpson wrote:

I'm an old black lesbian and I love to troll.

Well, I guess I'm an ignoramus so...unless you're trolling!?

givyjoe · 27-03-2018 11:37AM

Dont look white, straight or male to me.

I'm here all week.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-03-2018 11:45AM

I believe the technical nomenclature is 'priveledged'.

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 11:48AM

stimpson wrote: »

I'm an old black lesbian and I love to troll.

Unless you're an amputee, you're useless…

Gravelly · 27-03-2018 11:49AM

Isn't a troll just someone who has a different opinion? If so, maybe you keep disagreeing with young, male, white, heterosexuals - is it possible that you are ageist, sexist, racist, and heterophobic?

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 11:53AM

Sidebaro wrote: »

Is it just me or are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight? At least, that's how they appear from their profiles anyway. I know the straight thing is harder to identify. I'm not on Twitter anymore and I rarely look at the comments on YouTube these days either but it always seemed to be guys that were doing the trolling. Why aren't more women encouraged to follow this online rite of passage?

I'm referring to obvious trolling. The 'jury's out' type trolling complicates things because the 'are they trolling or are they revolutionary minds?' debate derails my original point - I've never seen female trolls.

I swear I'm not trolling, genuine observation I made and want to see am I right or just some old prejudiced fart.

Plenty of trolling on the likes of the Guardian facebook page in the form 'Oh look, somebody is mansplaining to me' or 'Here come the angry male comments…' posts that don't do anything but stir the pot. Generally they are not the preserve of young, white, males…

branie2 · 27-03-2018 11:58AM

Who's that walking on my bridge?!

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 12:00PM

branie2 wrote: »

Who's that walking on my bridge?!

The Feminazi Goats Gruff

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 12:21PM

Gravelly wrote:

Isn't a troll just someone who has a different opinion? If so, maybe you keep disagreeing with young, male, white, heterosexuals - is it possible that you are ageist, sexist, racist, and heterophobic?

That's usually false troll labelling by somebody who has no idea how to retort. The accuser is usually more troll-y than the accused.

I am ageist, sexist, racist and heterophobic though.

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 12:24PM

kunst nugget wrote:

Plenty of trolling on the likes of the Guardian facebook page in the form 'Oh look, somebody is mansplaining to me' or 'Here come the angry male commentsâ€¦' posts that don't do anything but stir the pot. Generally they are not the preserve of young, white, malesâ€¦

Ah good, I am wrong so and have been looking in the wrong places. Sisters representing!

Maxpfizer · 27-03-2018 12:36PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

Is it just me or are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight? At least, that's how they appear from their profiles anyway. I know the straight thing is harder to identify. I'm not on Twitter anymore and I rarely look at the comments on YouTube these days either but it always seemed to be guys that were doing the trolling. Why aren't more women encouraged to follow this online rite of passage?

I'm referring to obvious trolling. The 'jury's out' type trolling complicates things because the 'are they trolling or are they revolutionary minds?' debate derails my original point - I've never seen female trolls.

I swear I'm not trolling, genuine observation I made and want to see am I right or just some old prejudiced fart.

Suuuuuure.

*proceeds to take bait*

Trolling has evolved a lot over the years but posts and comments that open with things like "are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight" are classic old school trolling.

FFS. Probably every 13 year old with access to a computer has at one point used "hey guys, has anyone ever noticed that <insert group you want to trigger> tend to be <insert negative statement>" as their entry level trolling technique.

You need to git gud.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 27-03-2018 12:36PM

There are so many levels of trolling that it's hard to define a type. Even here we have people who troll threads and some may be young white males but others are not so young women and men too. As for their colour, I have naively assumed the majority are white.

razorblunt · 27-03-2018 12:38PM

I would suggest Katie Hopkins, but at this point I don't even think she's human. She's just a cúntagious mass of YouTube and Facebook comment bag, bursting at the seems, with bleached hair and makeup slapped on.

Maxpfizer · 27-03-2018 12:41PM

razorblunt wrote: »

I would suggest Katie Hopkins, but at this point I don't even think she's human. She's just a cúntagious mass of YouTube and Facebook comment bag, bursting at the seems, with bleached hair and makeup slapped on.

She is a top level troll.

However, trolling his way to the White House makes President Trump arguably the greatest troll of all time.

He's still trolling us all even after his presidential win. The below tweet is legendary level trolling.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/978110975428657153

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 12:47PM

Maxpfizer wrote:

Suuuuuure.

*proceeds to take bait*

Trolling has evolved a lot over the years but posts and comments that open with things like "are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight" are classic old school trolling.

FFS. Probably every 13 year old with access to a computer has at one point used "hey guys, has anyone ever noticed that tend to be " as their entry level trolling technique.

You need to git gud.

It was a tongue in cheek way of addressing my original observation, which has now evoked a discussion, however small. If I was trolling, I've failed.

Sidebaro · 27-03-2018 12:49PM

razorblunt wrote:

I would suggest Katie Hopkins, but at this point I don't even think she's human. She's just a cÃºntagious mass of YouTube and Facebook comment bag, bursting at the seems, with bleached hair and makeup slapped on.

Totally forgot about her. I forget that public figures can also be trolls. She's made a profession out of it.

Permabear · 27-03-2018 12:52PM

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 27-03-2018 01:00PM

Permabear wrote: »

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And those are the truly successful trolls. The ones who work the system, build up a sweetness and light image in some threads and then disrupt other threads by dragging them off topic, making statements but refuse to engage to back them up or enhance the discussion, and then throw in the odd nasty slur that they generally get away with. They then slip out of the thread, only to pop in and thank where the posts suit their agenda.

It's a fine art this trolling and some of the young wannabes could learn a lot by studying the true masters of the form.

Hector Savage · 27-03-2018 01:02PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

Is it just me or are trolls usually male, mostly quite young, very often white and frequently straight? At least, that's how they appear from their profiles anyway. I know the straight thing is harder to identify. I'm not on Twitter anymore and I rarely look at the comments on YouTube these days either but it always seemed to be guys that were doing the trolling. Why aren't more women encouraged to follow this online rite of passage?

I'm referring to obvious trolling. The 'jury's out' type trolling complicates things because the 'are they trolling or are they revolutionary minds?' debate derails my original point - I've never seen female trolls.

I swear I'm not trolling, genuine observation I made and want to see am I right or just some old prejudiced fart.

What's trolling though ?

someone with a different opinion than you ?

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 01:06PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

What's trolling though ?

someone with a different opinion than you ?

I'd say it's calling someone a mentally unstable looper and hoping that they're never allowed to serve on a jury. That sort of thing…

Permabear · 27-03-2018 01:09PM

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Maxpfizer · 27-03-2018 01:14PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

It was a tongue in cheek way of addressing my original observation, which has now evoked a discussion, however small. If I was trolling, I've failed.

Don't be too hard on yourself.

It was an OK troll attempt.

It wasn't a "run rings round a bunch of politicians and become President" level troll job but it was OK.

Proud of ya.

Gravelly · 27-03-2018 01:14PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

Totally forgot about her. I forget that public figures can also be trolls. She's made a profession out of it.

Katie Hopkins is the ultimate expression of "anyone who's opinion I don't agree with is a troll" - if she chose to support mass immigration and attack white South Africans, rather than the other way around, she'd be lauded for it (a la Bob Geldof, that Harry Potter woman, and yer man from Sherlock). If Hopkins was really trolling, and only in it for the fame, she'd have done a big public u-turn at some stage, and professed a new-found love for the Calais Kidz, as many a Z lister has done to good effect before her.

Hector Savage · 27-03-2018 01:18PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'd say it's calling someone a mentally unstable looper and hoping that they're never allowed to serve on a jury. That sort of thing…

Wow you dug deep didn't you ?

Also these are facts, so don't count.

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 01:20PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Wow you dug deep didn't you ?

Also these are facts, so don't count.

Dig deep? Not really, I happened upon the Louise O'Neill a week ago when you were playing the victim after being blocked by someone on Twitter.

Maxpfizer · 27-03-2018 01:20PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Katie Hopkins is the ultimate expression of "anyone who's opinion I don't agree with is a troll" - if she chose to support mass immigration and attack white South Africans, rather than the other way around, she'd be lauded for it (a la Bob Geldof, that Harry Potter woman, and yer man from Sherlock). If Hopkins was really trolling, and only in it for the fame, she'd have done a big public u-turn at some stage, and professed a new-found love for the Calais Kidz, as many a Z lister has done to good effect before her.

Nah, Hopkins is the same level of "I'm just saying..." or "I'm just pointing out..." Troll as the OP.

I'd bet that she (Hopkins) spends a decent amount of time figuring out exactly what she's going to say to get the maximum number of people wound up.

Then there's an army of smaller trolls who's troll tactic is "well she's got a point there".

JK Rowling is kind of like an inverse Hopkins but still a troll. She's trying to wind up Hopkins Troll Army by using her own little Troll minions to go after them.

The interesting question is whether or not ANY of these public figures believe their own BS.

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 01:22PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Katie Hopkins is the ultimate expression of "anyone who's opinion I don't agree with is a troll" - if she chose to support mass immigration and attack white South Africans, rather than the other way around, she'd be lauded for it (a la Bob Geldof, that Harry Potter woman, and yer man from Sherlock). If Hopkins was really trolling, and only in it for the fame, she'd have done a big public u-turn at some stage, and professed a new-found love for the Calais Kidz, as many a Z lister has done to good effect before her.

Nah, being a cúnt is her USP and what's made her famous. She's not going to turn her back on that when it's what keeps her in the headlines.

Maxpfizer · 27-03-2018 01:22PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'd say it's calling someone a mentally unstable looper and hoping that they're never allowed to serve on a jury. That sort of thing…

So you're a Stalker Troll? That's a new one. It's almost like Pokemon at this point.

Stalker Troll used "bring up post history"

It's not very effective.

kunst nugget · 27-03-2018 01:25PM

Maxpfizer wrote: »

So you're a Stalker Troll? That's a new one. It's almost like Pokemon at this point.

Stalker Troll used "bring up post history"

It's not very effective.

Nah, I didn't need to bring up post history. I just remembered it because I thought it was gas that he was so affronted by being blocked by someone on Twitter for his cogent arguments.

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