No irish chinese or irish indian?

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 12:49AM #1

I have never come across a Chinese restaurant or takeaway run/operated by irish people.

Ditto for indian, Mongolian, Japanese, French etc (maybe Italian is an exception?)

Do people actually believe that following a recipe is some kind of magical thing that only natives can do?

Do people need the complete illusion of "authenticity"?

Is there some other reason why you rarely see this? Maybe a closed community for supplies or something (doubtful!)?

Theres massive opportunity for irish people that just seems to go completely unnoticed? Is it that they work for very low wages (hence the constant immigration raiding)?

Anyone able to provide insider knowledge on this?

Check the poll before you wreck your hole.

Supergurrier · 23-03-2018 12:53AM

Shurre Genghis Khan invaded China for a spice box.

How can we top that

23-03-2018 12:54AM

This is gonna shock you but chicken balls and chips or the 3 in 1 that you get from the Chinese folks from the local Rose Garden isn't exactly the essence of Cantonese cuisine either.

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 12:55AM

Omackeral wrote: »

This is gonna shock you but chicken balls and chips or the 3 in 1 that you get from the Chinese folks from the local Rose Garden isn't exactly the essence of Cantonese cuisine either.

No doubt.

So why aren't irish people operating something so simple?

dxhound2005 · 23-03-2018 12:57AM

Ulaanbaatar sausage.

bloodless_coup · 23-03-2018 12:59AM

drillyeye wrote: »

No doubt.

So why aren't irish people operating something so simple?

Some do. But a China man would be more qualified to make the pseudo Chinese food.

endacl · 23-03-2018 01:01AM

doylefe wrote: »

Some do. But a China man would be more qualified to make the pseudo Chinese food.

A man made of porcelain?

bodice ripper · 23-03-2018 01:03AM

doylefe wrote:

Some do. But a China man would be more qualified to make the pseudo Chinese food.

Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:03AM

doylefe wrote: »

Some do. But a China man would be more qualified to make the peudo Chinese food.

I've never seen it myself.

But why would a competent chef of ANY nationality not be able to follow a recipe from anywhere? I'm not talking about getting it perfectly right in one go either, but a practiced chef who has done a certain dish thousands of times.

I think its one of the biggest cons going to be honest, especially at the lower end when it comes to buying tubs of "Chinese curry sauce" and pre-made chicken balls from some supplier. Real "authentic"!

Just to add: its more likely a Chinese chef has done a recipe thousands of times of course, but why wouldn't an enterprising irish chef just practice and get in on the game instead? Theres like 1 Chinese takeaway per person in Ireland, there must be some bloody good business in it.

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:07AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature

preferred by who, the thousands of billions of Chinese that cant even read English?

_Dara_ · 23-03-2018 01:10AM

Chinese takeaway food is truly mank in this country. I’d say it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.

PTH2009 · 23-03-2018 01:11AM

I actually get Sausages and onion rings sometimes in the Chinese. not sure what there made off though lol

love Crispy shredded chicken in curry sauce

Noveight · 23-03-2018 01:12AM

drillyeye wrote: »

Check the poll before you wreck your hole.

At the time of opening this thread I found that there was no poll and my hole subsequently became wrecked. What do I do now?

JCX BXC · 23-03-2018 01:14AM

If they use the same flavourings and techniques, there's no problem.

I dislike most of these new Asian street food places though, a mass up of several different Asian foods with a dummed down Irish flavour. I enjoy my Chinese and Indian food to be spicy and bursting with flavour, not some take on it so that Martin and Shelia who cook the same meal every day can enjoy some more flavourless food.

pleas advice · 23-03-2018 01:14AM

I'd love to eat some authentic Kai food cooked in a traditional hangi oven... but of course, there are no Maori on the island

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:18AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Chinese takeaway food is truly mank in this country. I’d say it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.

So why haven't irish people jumped all over it then if its already so bad and easy to replicate? That's the root of my question.

bodice ripper · 23-03-2018 01:18AM

drillyeye wrote:

preferred by who, the thousands of billions of Chinese that cant even read English?

Pc gone mad, is it?

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:20AM

Noveight wrote: »

At the time of opening this thread I found that there was no poll and my hole subsequently became wrecked. What do I do now?

Take your nappy off, and fold it up reaalllll sweet. Hop in the bed and strum your diddums till the postman knocks on Wednesday.

Only thing for it.

dreamliner · 23-03-2018 01:20AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

If they use the same flavourings and techniques, there's no problem.

I dislike most of these new Asian street food places though, a mass up of several different Asian foods with a dumbed down Irish flavour. I enjoy my Chinese and Indian food to be spicy and bursting with flavour, not some take on it so that Martin and Shelia who cook the same meal every day can enjoy some more flavourless food.

I think that's an unfair judgment of Irish people. I find Irish people are actually very often willing to try out different flavours and love a kick to their food, obviously many then will have their personal preferences.

I have been to more than a few countries in which nothing but local cuisine is eaten, if something foreign is eaten then it's with something that gives it a similar taste to the local cuisine anyway.

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:24AM

bodice ripper wrote: »

Pc gone mad, is it?

No, just stupidity on behalf of people that don't even know about it in the first place.

Did you know that in mainland china they call irish people

愤愤不平

?

You didn't? Well who gives a fook then!

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:26AM

pleas advice wrote: »

I'd love to eat some authentic Kai food cooked in a traditional hangi oven... but of course, there are no Maori on the island

So if you had the ingredients, the know-how (google) and a traditional hangi oven.......

why would you need a maori?

pleas advice · 23-03-2018 01:28AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

If they use the same flavourings and techniques, there's no problem.

The year was 1968. We were on recon in a steaming Mekong delta. An overheated private removed his flack jacket, revealing a T-shirt with an ironed-on sporting the MAD slogan "Up with Mini-skirts!". Well, we all had a good laugh, even though I didn't quite understand it. But our momentary lapse of concentration allowed "Charlie" to get the drop on us. I spent the next three years in a POW camp, forced to subsist on a thin stew made of fish, vegetables, prawns, coconut milk, and four kinds of rice. I came close to madness trying to find it here in the States, but they just can't get the spices right!

drillyeye · 23-03-2018 01:37AM

pleas advice wrote: »

The year was 1968. We were on recon in a steaming Mekong delta. An overheated private removed his flack jacket, revealing a T-shirt with an ironed-on sporting the MAD slogan "Up with Mini-skirts!". Well, we all had a good laugh, even though I didn't quite understand it. But our momentary lapse of concentration allowed "Charlie" to get the drop on us. I spent the next three years in a POW camp, forced to subsist on a thin stew made of fish, vegetables, prawns, coconut milk, and four kinds of rice. I came close to madness trying to find it here in the States, but they just can't get the spices right!

This brings me back! I was just across from your cage, crucified on the pole, remember!

Remember how we laughed when the pigs ate my feet! So many laughs! And then when they served you up some of the pig that had eaten my feet, and I said "You're literally eating me right now!......how we laughed through the night, drunk on the local fermented piss "pam-tam-tay", cant get that for love nor money on this rock.

The good times.

dd972 · 23-03-2018 02:11AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Chinese takeaway food is truly mank in this country. I’d say it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.

Mind you, getting to China to get the real stuff isn't like jumping on a Dart.

23-03-2018 02:52AM

drillyeye wrote: »

I've never seen it myself.

But why would a competent chef of ANY nationality not be able to follow a recipe from anywhere? I'm not talking about getting it perfectly right in one go either, but a practiced chef who has done a certain dish thousands of times.

I think its one of the biggest cons going to be honest, especially at the lower end when it comes to buying tubs of "Chinese curry sauce" and pre-made chicken balls from some supplier. Real "authentic"!

Just to add: its more likely a Chinese chef has done a recipe thousands of times of course, but why wouldn't an enterprising irish chef just practice and get in on the game instead? Theres like 1 Chinese takeaway per person in Ireland, there must be some bloody good business in it.

It's too low grade stuff to interest any practiced Irish chef I'd say, if you were any way decent you'd set your sights a bit higher.

But you are essentially right though and better quality restaurants often have quite an international staff, but at the lower end everything is.. yeah..and you are only going to attract cheap labour or people who prefer to work in those conditions for ease, language, culture, whatever

Minderbinder · 23-03-2018 02:59AM

drillyeye wrote: »

_Dara_ wrote: »

Chinese takeaway food is truly mank in this country. I’d say it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.

So why haven't irish people jumped all over it then if its already so bad and easy to replicate? That's the root of my question.

Perhaps the business model is not as successful as you think it is... especially if you have to hire staff and pay them a legal wage.

Your Face · 23-03-2018 05:35AM

Reminds me of that time I ordered a black russian.

CalRobert · 23-03-2018 07:07AM

To be fair, there is more to a meal than a recipe. You'll notice only one place has managed to get tacos right here (El Grito) and it's the only place a person can order in Spanish that I know if.

corks finest · 23-03-2018 07:09AM

drillyeye wrote: »

I have never come across a Chinese restaurant or takeaway run/operated by irish people.

Ditto for indian, Mongolian, Japanese, French etc (maybe Italian is an exception?)

Do people actually believe that following a recipe is some kind of magical thing that only natives can do?

Do people need the complete illusion of "authenticity"?

Is there some other reason why you rarely see this? Maybe a closed community for supplies or something (doubtful!)?

Theres massive opportunity for irish people that just seems to go completely unnoticed? Is it that they work for very low wages (hence the constant immigration raiding)?

Anyone able to provide insider knowledge on this?

Check the poll before you wreck your hole.

Used go to a Cypriot restaurant in kilburn years ago whose signature dish on a Sunday was bacon and cabbage yum( especially to us craving for it)

OldMrBrennan83 · 23-03-2018 07:13AM

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dudara · 23-03-2018 07:14AM

Isn’t the Bombay Pantry chain owned and ran by Irish people? As is most of those chains like Camille and Diep.

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