Second Captains

Zuffer · 19-03-2018 09:07PM

Posting about the rugby coverage, I want to see if I'm on my own about this.

Mark's music montage about the Grand Slam today used Michael Corcoran's commentary from RTE radio on the Sexton drop goal. Am I the only one who thought that bit of commentary was a load of rubbish? Going on about how France had been 'absolutely destroyed' - that wasn't how the moment was. Media folks have picked it out as epic, but he just screams at the top of his voice. It's not actually good. It's funny in a sad way. Rugby has had some great commentators in the past. For me, Michael Corcoran is way off the pace.

The other thing is that I don't know of anyone who had serious interest in the game who would have been listening to it on RTE radio. People's memory of that moment involve the TV commentary.

I usually love the little music bits on Second Captains. I was looking forward to this one, but it was a bit of a disappointment.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

dulpit · 19-03-2018 10:03PM

Michael Corcoran = rugby commentating gold. Don't diss!

yosser hughes · 19-03-2018 10:12PM

dulpit wrote: »

Michael Corcoran = rugby commentating gold. Don't diss!

I disagree

death1234567 · 19-03-2018 10:17PM

Zuffer wrote: »

I usually love the little music bits on Second Captains.

You should go see a doctor, I think there could be something seriously wrong with you.

n!ghtmancometh · 19-03-2018 10:46PM

Vincent Browne pod was fairly cack. The disgruntled ramblings of an old man. Ken's questioning was poor enough too. For an articulate lad he said the phrase "y'know" far too often during it.

Paul Kimmage will be another misery guts to listen to as well. Didn't do great with the birthday bonus guests at all.

Arghus · 19-03-2018 11:19PM

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

...For an articulate lad he said the phrase "y'know" far too often during it...

It's one of Ken's verbal tics to say "y'know" or, in particular, "D'ya know what I mean?" quite a lot. Harmless enough of course, but once you notice it you'll hear them all the time.

Cienciano · 20-03-2018 03:27PM

I like Paul Kimmage, I usually agree with him on things. It gets emotional towards the end, but I was riveted throughout

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-03-2018 04:08PM

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Dots1982 · 20-03-2018 05:29PM

Kimmage is good when talking about stuff he knows about.

He is embarrassing when talking about GAA, soccer or rugby.

Smell the glove · 20-03-2018 09:07PM

I thought the Kimmage interview was possibly the best players chair yet.

splendid101 · 20-03-2018 09:41PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Let that be a lesson to you.

kilns · 21-03-2018 07:58AM

The Kimmage interview was excellent people can slag him off but you can never question his passion or integrity to fight for what is right, journalism needs guys like him and then talking about his father at the end, quite powerful

OldMrBrennan83 · 21-03-2018 08:20AM

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quad_red · 21-03-2018 05:29PM

threein99 wrote: »

I thought that too, I don't mind him ranting about Mourinho when it's relevant it's when he show horns it in needlessly wrecks my head.

That Ken show was really good (and that’s from a Utd supporter).

But the constant **** about getting everyone in your life to subscribe to second captains and the constant ads is becoming borderline intolerable.

I pay for this **** so I don’t have to listen to constant annoying ads. But Eoin going on and on about independent spirits and the anniversary etc blah blah.

It’s self serving sky sports hyperbole by another name. I subscribe to second captains to escape this ****. Not to listen to the painfully crass false jocularity of the advertising features where loyal second captains listeners “out” their friends who only listen to Mondays and don’t pay subscription.

Salvation Tambourine · 21-03-2018 05:32PM

quad_red wrote: »

That Ken show was really good (and that’s from a Utd supporter).

But the constant **** about getting everyone in your life to subscribe to second captains and the constant ads is becoming borderline intolerable.

I pay for this **** so I don’t have to listen to constant annoying ads. But Eoin going on and on about independent spirits and the anniversary etc blah blah.

It’s self serving sky sports hyperbole by another name. I subscribe to second captains to escape this ****. Not to listen to the painfully crass false jocularity of the advertising features where loyal second captains listeners “out” their friends who only listen to Mondays and don’t pay subscription.

They only do this on the free shows don't they? The one you don't pay for?

quad_red · 21-03-2018 05:55PM

Nokotan wrote: »

They only do this on the free shows don't they? The one you don't pay for?

Is it? Ha. That’s just how annoying it is though.

And whether the Monday podcasts are open to others or not - I am paying and the two Monday podcasts are pretty much the ones I’m guaranteed to listen to.

lawred2 · 22-03-2018 09:16AM

Really enjoyed the Kimmage interview. But then I enjoy every Kimmage interview. He's just so open and honest.

Kudos to Richie, he's learning to sit back more and let the interviewee dictate the agenda.

buyer95 · 22-03-2018 09:18AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Really enjoyed the Kimmage interview. But then I enjoy every Kimmage interview. He's just so open and honest.

Kudos to Richie, he's learning to sit back more and let the interviewee dictate the agenda.

Don't know if you can give Richie kudos for that! Kimmage has a tendency to dictate proceedings regardless. Riveting pod though

lawred2 · 22-03-2018 09:31AM

buyer95 wrote: »

Don't know if you can give Richie kudos for that! Kimmage has a tendency to dictate proceedings regardless. Riveting pod though

Well there's a degree of that for sure

Acosta · 22-03-2018 11:33AM

Nokotan wrote: »

They only do this on the free shows don't they? The one you don't pay for?

Between this and the ridiculously long jingles the free pods are not convincing me to sign up. As someone who only listens the odd time, tuning in now compared to when they were with the IT is not as pleasurable an experience.
A couple of ads per pod would be less annoying. And would make it cheaper too. I think it's overpriced anyway

bren2001 · 22-03-2018 11:37AM

Acosta wrote: »

Between this and the ridiculously long jingles the free pods are not convincing me to sign up. As someone who only listens the odd time, tuning in now compared to when they were with the IT is not as pleasurable an experience.
A couple of ads per pod would be less annoying. And would make it cheaper too. I think it's overpriced anyway

You think ~30c a pod is overpriced? Right....

Ol' Donie · 22-03-2018 11:57AM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Kimmage is good when talking about stuff he knows about.

He is embarrassing when talking about GAA, soccer or rugby.

I've a lot of time for Kimmage, but his ranting about Jim Gavin not saying anything worthwhile in press conferences really grated with me.

For a man who is so, so committed to the concept of sport and sporting competition, to knock the best football manager in the country for having his focus somewhere other than giving journos good copy was pretty ridiculous.

His good work far, far outstrips this single point, of course. But the point still stands.

Brock Turnpike · 22-03-2018 02:11PM

quad_red wrote: »

That Ken show was really good (and that’s from a Utd supporter).

But the constant **** about getting everyone in your life to subscribe to second captains and the constant ads is becoming borderline intolerable.

I pay for this **** so I don’t have to listen to constant annoying ads. But Eoin going on and on about independent spirits and the anniversary etc blah blah.

It’s self serving sky sports hyperbole by another name. I subscribe to second captains to escape this ****. Not to listen to the painfully crass false jocularity of the advertising features where loyal second captains listeners “out” their friends who only listen to Mondays and don’t pay subscription.

Maybe the world of podcasts isn't for you? I mean if you're getting this worked up about pods having a coupe of ads on them, it's probably not great for your health.

yosser hughes · 22-03-2018 02:28PM

buyer95 wrote: »

Don't know if you can give Richie kudos for that! Kimmage has a tendency to dictate proceedings regardless. Riveting pod though

Kimmage is a great interviewee. I'd give zero credit to Ritchie on this. In fact I thought some of his questions were a bit dim.
I also thought the long silences when Kimmage was clearly upset were crass and a better interviewer would have handled it differently.

jones · 22-03-2018 02:42PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Kimmage is a great interviewee. I'd give zero credit to Ritchie on this. In fact I thought some of his questions were a bit dim.
I also thought the long silences when Kimmage was clearly upset were crass and a better interviewer would have handled it differently.

I thought Richie dealt with it like he was doing a counselling session...and i'm ok with that

yosser hughes · 22-03-2018 06:21PM

jones wrote: »

I thought Richie dealt with it like he was doing a counselling session...and i'm ok with that

If I ever need counselling, I won't be looking Ritchie up.

Hippo · 22-03-2018 07:47PM

The Kimmage interview was superb, and the long silence at the end was completely justified, it would have been crass for Richie to jump in with some comment or question at that point. You could almost see Kimmage's face.

I enjoyed the Browne interview as well and it wasn't one I'd expected to like. I'm aware I probably come across as a happy clappy fan anytime I post in this forum but seriously, this pod is in general (and excepting US Murph talking golf!) so far ahead of the competition it's unreal. I'm really not sure what some people expect from it.

Dots1982 · 22-03-2018 08:22PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Dots1982 wrote: »

Kimmage is good when talking about stuff he knows about.

He is embarrassing when talking about GAA, soccer or rugby.

I've a lot of time for Kimmage, but his ranting about Jim Gavin not saying anything worthwhile in press conferences really grated with me.

For a man who is so, so committed to the concept of sport and sporting competition, to knock the best football manager in the country for having his focus somewhere other than giving journos good copy was pretty ridiculous.

His good work far, far outstrips this single point, of course. But the point still stands.

Jim Gavin has the best 30 players ive ever seen on a county panel. I wouldn’t be calling him any kind of guru. Especially when he can’t seem to control Diarmuid Connolly. He’s more of a del bosque than a Alex Ferguson.

That aside Kimmage made a completely moron of himself in his criticism of Gavin. Complaining he was 20 mins late for an after all ireland win press conference. And then a picture came out that he spent those 20mins with children who were sick and big Dublin fans.

Kimmage is admirable on so much of his work. But he is becoming a “rent a quote” on things he would do well to just listen and ask questions about as his understanding of rugby, soccer and GAA is poor.

Dots1982 · 22-03-2018 08:24PM

Hippo wrote: »

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I'm really not sure what some people expect from it.

Have gone into reasonable detail on here where I think the pod falls down and can improve so feel free to read and then you can understand where I for one am coming from. Sure just my opinion anyway.

yosser hughes · 22-03-2018 08:54PM

"Hippo wrote: »

so far ahead of the competition it's unreal. I'm really not sure what some people expect from it.

I agree with you that it's well ahead of the competition.
I don't expect much either,it's good value.
I just disagree with your view on the Kimmage interview.
You can understand that, can't you?

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