Al Porter Scandal

lertsnim · 21-03-2018 07:35PM

recyclebin wrote: »

Why hasn't anybody pressed charges against him? I'm not a fan of trial or redemption by media.

He has already admitted to it. Blamed it on his flamboyant outrageous persona. That creep doesn't deserve a pass.

_Dara_ · 21-03-2018 07:36PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Can you imagine the outcry if one of the metoo targets were given the front page to say he’s cutting back (but not given up) alcohol and cigarettes.

Well, is anyone taking this seriously? I doubt it. Don't forget Weinstein came out with some weak therapy proclamation not long after his scandal hit. They all seem to be met with eye-rolling.

21-03-2018 08:22PM

All is ok, as I have now chosen to life my life as a moderate drinking and smoking man.

Creol1 · 21-03-2018 08:55PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Chances are he has *cough* come to a legal agreement with the complainants copperfastened with an NDA. Otherwise he would not be running this attempt of redemption in fear they would pipe up.

As I remember, the inpatient in the psychiatric hospital has already made a complaint and several other complainants went public so what's already been said/alleged can't be "un-said" by an NDA. Brings us back to the question of why the Gardaí aren't doing more.

darkdubh · 21-03-2018 09:24PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

No words

"Long road back" what bollocks.

Ursus Horribilis · 21-03-2018 10:00PM

Creol1 wrote: »

As I remember, the inpatient in the psychiatric hospital has already made a complaint and several other complainants went public so what's already been said/alleged can't be "un-said" by an NDA. Brings us back to the question of why the Gardaí aren't doing more.

Because it'd involve them doing actual work? :rolleyes:

sightband · 21-03-2018 10:09PM

Who’s going to say it? Difference is he is gay, different rules. It’s as simple as that.

Joeseph Balls · 21-03-2018 10:10PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Astonishing, isnt it? Like I am a smoker and after todays revelations from Al I am a bit concerned that soon I might go out groping other men. Luckily I only smoke Silk Cut so it will only be a bit of a weak grope.

Is it exclusively to smokers or are vapers included?
I vape but I couldn't dedicate myself full time to the oul groping.

TheRiverman · 21-03-2018 10:14PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Joke as you will but remember what Bill Clinton did with a cigar.

I think it was Monica that did something with it

Creol1 · 21-03-2018 10:32PM

sightband wrote: »

Who’s going to say it? Difference is he is gay, different rules. It’s as simple as that.

I don't think so. Kevin Spacey's clumsy attempt to deflect from his alleged misconduct with reference to his sexuality got him nowhere and backfired and didn't mitigate the consequences; closer to home, Pat Carey, who was lauded after he very publicly "came out", has faced allegations of child sex abuse, and he seems to have vanished without a trace from the public arena even though (as far as I'm aware) the allegations have never been substantiated.

Age is probably more of a factor; the image of paedophiles and sexual assailants is middle-aged and older men, often scruffy in appearance. Porter is 25 and clean cut and just doesn't fit the profile.

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 10:58AM

Are people here really comparing this gobsh*te to Harvey Weinstein?

I am not at all a fan of his schtick and rarely caught his radio show so if he was never seen or heard again it would be absolutely fine with me... but there's people on this thread who would stop at nothing to see the eejit burned at the stake.

What he did was not serious enough to ruin his career and his life - despite what people on this thread would love to believe.

The reason there's been no legal cases against him is easy to figure out and it's hardly anything as exciting as pay offs and Non Disclosure Agreements.

He grabbed a couple of lads by the c*ck and a few months later they decided they were actually offended. Get. The F*ck. Over it.

Lollipops23 · 22-03-2018 11:15AM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

What he did was not serious enough to ruin his career and his life - despite what people on this thread would love to believe.

He grabbed a couple of lads by the c*ck and a few months later they decided they were actually offended. Get. The F*ck. Over it.

1) His career was not established enough to survive this

2) Fondling someone against their wishes is disgusting and a sexual assault. If a man walked up to me (famous or not) and grabbed my crotch, I'd be calling the police.

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 11:18AM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

1) His career was not established enough to survive this

2) Fondling someone against their wishes is disgusting and a sexual assault. If a man walked up to me (famous or not) and grabbed my crotch, I'd be calling the police.

1) So you feel if he was more famous he'd be given more leeway?

2) And you'd be absolutely right to.

everlast75 · 22-03-2018 11:19AM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

What he did was not serious enough to ruin his career and his life.

Career - yes. Life - no

WHIP IT! wrote: »

He grabbed a couple of lads by the c*ck and a few months later they decided they were actually offended. Get. The F*ck. Over it.

How do you know exactly what he did?
How do you know it took them months to get offended?
How do you know that it is simply a case for them to "get over it"?

Because without knowing all of the above, you are talking out of your ****

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 11:25AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Career - yes. Life - no

How do you know exactly what he did?
How do you know it took them months to get offended?
How do you know that it is simply a case for them to "get over it"?

Because without knowing all of the above, you are talking out of your ****

Are we now restricted to only commenting on threads where we have intimate, first-hand details of every part of the subject matter? I must have missed the Boards memo. I know exactly as much as you on the subject - ie, what was reported.

As regards the "get over it" comment - I was referring to the many posters here who seemingly won't rest until the moron is in manacles and kept locked in a basement lest he touch another man on the willy ever ever again.

sightband · 22-03-2018 12:25PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Are we now restricted to only commenting on threads where we have intimate, first-hand details of every part of the subject matter? I must have missed the Boards memo. I know exactly as much as you on the subject - ie, what was reported.

well then you would know that it has been reported that he sexually assaulted a patient in a psychiatric hospital. that's a low i don't remember hearing about weinstein hitting.

WHIP IT! wrote: »

As regards the "get over it" comment - I was referring to the many posters here who seemingly won't rest until the moron is in manacles and kept locked in a basement lest he touch another man on the willy ever ever again.

I think most people just hope he f*cks off into obscurity where the talentless p*ick belongs...as pointed out his hiatus seems to be up and he's rearing his ugly head again and doesn't seem the least bit contrite.

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 12:27PM

sightband wrote: »

well then you would know that it has been reported that he sexually assaulted a patient in a psychiatric hospital. that's a low i don't remember hearing about weinstein hitting.

I think most people just hope he f*cks off into obscurity where the talentless p*ick belongs...as pointed out his hiatus seems to be up and he's rearing his ugly head again and doesn't seem the least bit contrite.

Alleged. It had been alleged. When's the court case?
"If it was in the Sun sure it must be true"

everlast75 · 22-03-2018 12:53PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Alleged. It had been alleged. When's the court case?
"If it was in the Sun sure it must be true"

Okay Al. You can quit with your posts now.

We get it - you are innocent!

kumate_champ07 · 22-03-2018 01:23PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

He grabbed a couple of lads by the c*ck and a few months later they decided they were actually offended. Get. The F*ck. Over it.

they were 'offended' at the time and knew there would be people like you who wouldnt give a sh1t and probably say something like 'man up',
but when they heard it happened to others too they were able to talk about it more openly

Brendan Fraser gets the same kind of abuse from people like you now , but what happened to him pretty much ended his career and he was the actual victim

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 02:20PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Okay Al. You can quit with your posts now.

We get it - you are innocent!

Innocent of? What has he been charged with?

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

they were 'offended' at the time and knew there would be people like you who wouldnt give a sh1t and probably say something like 'man up',
but when they heard it happened to others too they were able to talk about it more openly

I would implore anyone, if you feel you are the victim of a crime - please, go to the Gardai... not Twitter

Sidebaro · 22-03-2018 03:01PM

WHIP IT! wrote:

Are people here really comparing this gobsh*te to Harvey Weinstein?

Well, he's closer to Harvey then he is to the average person in terms of sexual assault.

I think his career should be over. It would be very damaging to all victims of sexual assault to see him return. Not the kind of message that should be sent, I think.

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2018 03:15PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

Well, he's closer to Harvey then he is to the average person in terms of sexual assault.

I think his career should be over. It would be very damaging to all victims of sexual assault to see him return. Not the kind of message that should be sent, I think.

Was he convicted of sexual assault?

Sidebaro · 22-03-2018 03:28PM

WHIP IT! wrote:

Was he convicted of sexual assault?

He admitted to doing it. Not the same as a court of law but does away with the necessity for 'innocent until proven guilty by a jury of peers' argument.

weldoninhio · 22-03-2018 07:48PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Was he convicted of sexual assault?

Was Harvey?

kumate_champ07 · 22-03-2018 07:59PM

Louis CK wasnt even convicted, he openly talked about his masturbation in public before some journalist decided it was time to make him into a sacrificial mexican lamb.

he asked for consent every time, and it wasnt part of a job offer, it was during leisure time away from some kind of power dynamic(tho some would argue that dynamic always exists). some women said ok, some said no, so he wouldnt do anything in that case. there was never any body contact between them

but Al went a step further, he didnt ask, he allegedly put his hands on peoples sexual organs without consent. but hes a working class gay guy from Tallaght, not a bald middle aged redheaded mexican comic , the media seems to get to decide when someone gets a free pass. i realise im talking about 2 different countries, but modern western media is behaving the same everywhere

Sidebaro · 22-03-2018 08:07PM

kumate_champ07 wrote:

i realise im talking about 2 different countries

I could have this arseways but I think in America the burden is on the accused to prove innocence, while on this side of the Atlantic, the burden is on the accuser to proof guilt and if they don't, it's defamation. That's why Jimmy Saville was only outed after his death - you can't defame the dead. I could be totally wrong about that?

kumate_champ07 · 22-03-2018 08:12PM

Sidebaro wrote: »

I could have this arseways but I think in America the burden is on the accused to prove innocence, while on this side of the Atlantic, the burden is on the accuser to proof guilt and if they don't, it's defamation. That's why Jimmy Saville was only outed after his death - you can't defame the dead. I could be totally wrong about that?

its difficult talking about that guy without sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but i believe his behaviour was well known by BBC execs, and he mingled with powerful people who were involved in vile behavior. he was protected, why bring him down when hes alive when he has so much leverage to bring more down with him

kumate_champ07 · 22-03-2018 08:18PM

Matthew Kelly and Micheal Barrymore had their careers and lives destroyed by accusations in the UK

RocketRaccoon · 22-03-2018 08:34PM

Have i misunderstood people in this thread? Are there folk here actually trying to defend Al Porter in this situation?

Beechwoodspark · 22-03-2018 08:40PM

Are people actually trying to defend kavanagh now????? (That’s his real name. Porter is a stage name aimed at British audiences).

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