How would you define your attitude toward women?

FakePie wrote:

What I just described is not exactly uncommon BTW.

FakePie wrote: »

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They want something - THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE.

They want it more - cause they CAN'T have it.

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FakePie wrote: »

When I was a kid like, too young to basically know any different - I genuinely believe sex was something women gave to men, out of pure necessity - just to shut them up basically.

They in no way enjoyed it, in fact found it repulsive in many respects - but endured it, cause that's the cost of doing business.

I perhaps formed this opinion, not from information directed at me, in the verbal or written sense, but more so just attitudes gleaned from perhaps my living environment - an intuitive deduction.

It was - I absolutely kid you not - a life changing revelation to learn that, sex is something women can potentially find enjoyable.

It was an even greater life altering awareness to understand that - sex I had previously seen as leverage, exerted exclusively by females; but in actual fact, in exceptional circumstances, can also be applied by men.


Now - looking back, examining where I started and where I am now - I'm beginning to think that, that home environment, perhaps that was in actual fact the case.
Beyond the home environment, somewhat the same.
The nature of the individuals my parents kept company with - of a similar disposition.

I mean - my old man - don't get me wrong, dude has a good heart, but he ain't no Juan.
His attitude is not conducive to turning women on; he takes zero care with his appearance.
In actual fact - he seems to take care in ensuring he appears, basically unkempt.

Perhaps that was the norm in terms of his own background; unkempt meant, I dunno - tough, rugged? Perhaps there was some kind of social kudos associated with that.

But in purely sexually attractive terms, if we're excluding societal perceptions, and catering exclusively to what happens behind the bedroom door - he presents largely as being, oppositional to it.

What I will say he excels at, is his understanding that, intellectual development is a key part of flourishing as a human.
I'm happy for that - but there's other areas, I would say, just as important.

Without rambling - point I'm making is, largely, I suspect - my mother probably allowed him pork her from time to time, relative to exactly what I mentioned in the opening: just to shut him up, keep him happy - and almost certainly took sparse enjoyment from it.
That's my current opinion.

(Just FYI - it goes beyond his appearance also. Just attitude, behavior etc - like I said - he's no Juan)


Where that left me was - a quite bizarre and undeveloped understanding of women and relationships, going into my more defining years.

Which is why I believe - as a man, our attitude to women, and ultimately, our attitude to sex, can be so tremendously defining for us as individuals, in thee most profound way.

For women - I also believe it largely works in reverse.
Their attitude and understanding of men, their approach, and themselves - can be intrinsically defining in terms of their character formation and development etc.


So - it begs the question.

You!

Yes - you!

What's your attitude toward, understanding of, and approach toward - the opposing gender, and to sex?

**Awaits, "I respect women as I was taught to" reply**.

Don't make it that easy hmm?
Let's hear what you got.

PucaMama wrote: »

Nothing like a bit of incel logic to explain those women’s *sorry* females behaviour. Chad or brad. L O L.

Ted Simpson wrote: »

The ability to generate feel good emotions internally, not based off other people or the environment is a valuable skill for attracting women. It is at the core of masculinity.