How would you define your attitude toward women?

20-03-2018 07:56PM

Women are great, especially the great ones.

Men are great too, especially the great ones.

That sums it up.

Fanny Wank · 20-03-2018 07:58PM

I love women

They've tits and fannies & the odd one lets you stick your willy inside her. What's not to like?

FakePie · 20-03-2018 08:09PM

professore wrote: »

I actually know what he's talking about. The bizarre Irish Catholic upbringing idea that women aren't in the least bit interested in sex, or if they are, they are dirty and disgusting. I got that from both parents growing up. I had no sisters and went to a boys only secondary school.

I read all this romantic poetry in English class about amazing unattainable women.

Then I read those articles about how to please a woman in bed and how much they liked sex and all that stuff and got confused.

Then I met a few women who claimed they needed a man like a fish needs a bicycle and got even more confused.

So yeah ... hard to know. Definitely think many women change their attitude about sex depending on what they think you want to hear. And men do on average have a much higher sex drive than women do. If an average man could get sex as easily as an average woman he would rack up thousands of partners.

Studies.

There's, "studies" - out there - that claim that women tend to orgasm with their husbands, almost exclusively after seeing or meeting an ex or, male business partner or something.

That would infer to us that, sexual attraction has little basis in husband choice for women.
I think that's fairly spot on.

But I digress.

If I may, I'm going to offer up a metaphor.

Consider men, more, strong, assertive, whatever.
Women - less so.

Let's equate this to a visual.
The man is higher say, on a plateau of some kind.
The women is beneath him.
We're talking, ability, strength - hormones - testosterone is the "work, aggressive" hormone.
Dudes inject testosterone so they can workout harder.
You get the idea.

Like this:

Man
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
....................................................................Woman

Excuse the crudeness of that diagram.

But basically - for "liaison" to occur, the man must, what.... I don't know.

Degrade himself?

Do a monkey dance and hope for the best? lol

Where am I going with this?

Well - I guess we'll see.

But let me say - someone thinks outside box. "Must be a troll".

Come now people.
Let's be a little open minded here, hmm?

JohnnyFlash · 20-03-2018 08:11PM

Love the more dangerous sex. They have a different perspective on the world. Some of them are completely irrational, but love able anyway. A good few of them have let me bang them over the years as well.

Ipso · 20-03-2018 08:13PM

FakePie wrote: »

Studies.

There's, "studies" - out there - that claim that women tend to orgasm with their husbands, almost exclusively after seeing or meeting an ex or, male business partner or something.

That would infer to us that, sexual attraction has little basis in husband choice for women.
I think that's fairly spot on.

But I digress.

If I may, I'm going to offer up a metaphor.

Consider men, more, strong, assertive, whatever.
Women - less so.

Let's equate this to a visual.
The man is higher say, on a plateau of some kind.
The women is beneath him.
We're talking, ability, strength - hormones - testosterone is the "work, aggressive" hormone.
Dudes inject testosterone so they can workout harder.
You get the idea.

Like this:

Man
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
. \
....................................................................Woman

Excuse the crudeness of that diagram.

But basically - for "liaison" to occur, the man must, what.... I don't know.

Degrade himself?

Do a monkey dance and hope for the best? lol

Where am I going with this?

Well - I guess we'll see.

But let me say - someone thinks outside box. "Must be a troll".

Come now people.
Let's be a little open minded here, hmm?

No. Usually is someone who doesn't think outside "d'box".

FakePie · 20-03-2018 08:21PM

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FakePie · 20-03-2018 08:21PM

The point I'm making before JohnnyFlash post there is that - that's a naturally occurring discrepancy between men and women.

Men are from mars - women, jupitar.

Mind = blown, right?

For this reason, a naturally occurring discord or disconnect.

Consider that diagram.

The monkey dance - degradation of men - your local on a Saturday night, and watch it in full flight.

But - what if - there were a means to, as oppose to debase or lower the man - to elevate the woman?

In theory, if we consider the position - fact of the matter is, that debasement, will not mean, good sex.

The opposite.

What does a man do when he proposes?
He gets on one knee.
He lowers himself.

Hey - I don't like the analogy any more than you do but - like I said - we're just jiving here.
Let's be open minded.

Really - for good sex - on that "height" spectrum - the woman must be elevated.

Obviously - I mean - emotionally elevated.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-03-2018 08:24PM

What a drunkship*

* collective term for a load of cobblers.

FakePie · 20-03-2018 08:24PM

I'm talking about - our approach toward women.

How does one - emotionally elevate them?
(actual question).

20-03-2018 08:29PM

what if - like - fire -except; too much ?

aaronjumper · 20-03-2018 08:45PM

FakePie wrote: »

The worlds longest novel.

PucaMama · 20-03-2018 08:49PM

FakePie wrote: »

The point I'm making before JohnnyFlash post there is that - that's a naturally occurring discrepancy between men and women.

Men are from mars - women, jupitar.

Mind = blown, right?

For this reason, a naturally occurring discord or disconnect.

Consider that diagram.

The monkey dance - degradation of men - your local on a Saturday night, and watch it in full flight.

But - what if - there were a means to, as oppose to debase or lower the man - to elevate the woman?

In theory, if we consider the position - fact of the matter is, that debasement, will not mean, good sex.

The opposite.

What does a man do when he proposes?
He gets on one knee.
He lowers himself.

Hey - I don't like the analogy any more than you do but - like I said - we're just jiving here.
Let's be open minded.

Really - for good sex - on that "height" spectrum - the woman must be elevated.

Obviously - I mean - emotionally elevated.

What are you on.

professore · 20-03-2018 09:01PM

FakePie wrote: »

The point I'm making before JohnnyFlash post there is that - that's a naturally occurring discrepancy between men and women.

Men are from mars - women, jupitar.

Mind = blown, right?

For this reason, a naturally occurring discord or disconnect.

Consider that diagram.

The monkey dance - degradation of men - your local on a Saturday night, and watch it in full flight.

But - what if - there were a means to, as oppose to debase or lower the man - to elevate the woman?

In theory, if we consider the position - fact of the matter is, that debasement, will not mean, good sex.

The opposite.

What does a man do when he proposes?
He gets on one knee.
He lowers himself.

Hey - I don't like the analogy any more than you do but - like I said - we're just jiving here.
Let's be open minded.

Really - for good sex - on that "height" spectrum - the woman must be elevated.

Obviously - I mean - emotionally elevated.

Sorry, you've lost me.

FakePie · 20-03-2018 09:03PM

PucaMama wrote: »

FakePie wrote: »

The point I'm making before JohnnyFlash post there is that - that's a naturally occurring discrepancy between men and women.

Men are from mars - women, jupitar.

Mind = blown, right?

For this reason, a naturally occurring discord or disconnect.

Consider that diagram.

The monkey dance - degradation of men - your local on a Saturday night, and watch it in full flight.

But - what if - there were a means to, as oppose to debase or lower the man - to elevate the woman?

In theory, if we consider the position - fact of the matter is, that debasement, will not mean, good sex.

The opposite.

What does a man do when he proposes?
He gets on one knee.
He lowers himself.

Hey - I don't like the analogy any more than you do but - like I said - we're just jiving here.
Let's be open minded.

Really - for good sex - on that "height" spectrum - the woman must be elevated.

Obviously - I mean - emotionally elevated.

What are you on.

Pfff.

Can you perform basic arithmetic?

The ol' 2 and 2 is 4, type of deal?

Man - high up - due to naturally occuring disposition, aggression etc.
Sexual gratification - occurs.

Woman - low down - below the man.
Supposedly, sexual gratification via intercourse exclusively - something of a myth.

Difference in heights - natural discord.

How does the man, administer gratification - if gratification can not be administered at that lower level?

He elevates - the woman.

How to you elevate the woman?

Emotionally.

How do you elevate a woman emotionally?

......

Well??

How?

ThinkProgress · 20-03-2018 09:20PM

FakePie wrote: »

How do you elevate a woman emotionally?

......

Well??

How?

Make her cry a lot...?

...with laughter

......because you're a giant mangina!? :P

Wibbs · 20-03-2018 09:28PM

PucaMama wrote: »

What are you on.

Normally my goto response is I'll have a go of whatever it is that's going. Not this time.

Sheldon-Cooper-I-am-not-crazy-My-mother-had-me-tested.jpg

professore · 20-03-2018 09:32PM

This could have been an interesting thread. No longer. I'm out.

FakePie · 20-03-2018 10:32PM

Married woman orgasm with their partner - almost exclusively when they've just seen or met an ex or a male work colleague.

You mean to tell me none of you are perturbed by that statistic?

It begs the question - why do women get married if they're entering in a contract upon which, the basis of - it is effectively certain to be a non-orgasmic time?

Married women get turned on - seeing an ex, or a male work colleague they might think is hot....

I feel like I should know this.

They're married - want something - outside of marriage, but due to contractual issues - they can't have it.

And that - turns them on...

........

Wait - it's on tip of my tongue.

!!

Yes!

They want something - THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE.

They want it more - cause they CAN'T have it.

Huh?

That's a pretty acknowledged phenomenon, right?

When you can't have something - it makes you want it more?

And wanting something they can't have - THAT - turns them on.

Kind of paradoxical though - no?

You could have potentially have life altering, mind bending, out of body experience type of sex with someone - but only when you CAN'T have it.

lol

It's like - nature is playing a cruel prank on us.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-03-2018 10:35PM

Is there an echo in here......????

Avatar MIA · 20-03-2018 10:37PM

dd972 wrote: »

They're fellow human beings.

Whoa, steady on! I know it's 2018 and all, but... Hrummmmph !

FCIM · 20-03-2018 10:38PM

Same as my attitude towards men, with the slight exception that I'm happy to have sex with women whilst men don't float my boat though as I'm married even that exception is limited to one woman (just in case she's reading lol).

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-03-2018 10:43PM

It's like - nature is playing a cruel prank on us me.

FYP

FakePie · 20-03-2018 10:45PM

FCIM wrote: »

Same as my attitude towards men, with the slight exception that I'm happy to have sex with women whilst men don't float my boat though as I'm married even that exception is limited to one woman (just in case she's reading lol).

Yes!!

Of course.

That's the other unacknowledged aspect.

Attitude doesn't change from one to the next, or one gender to the next.

BUT - ones attitude, should not be defined by, how they see men - if they are male.

If SHOULD be defined, by how they relate to, the opposite gender.

I guess cause - perhaps the most profound means by which men judge and assess one another is, ultimately how they feel another man copes with, responds to, and has dealings with - WOMEN.

Some of the best friends I've ever had - our whole friendship was based on chasing women together.

We totally got on cause - we viewed each other as cool dudes with women, and admired that quality in each other.

In fact - since the age of about 13 - the only friendships I've had have been based on that.

So yes - ones attitude will be universal - just as it is toward women, it will be toward other men.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 20-03-2018 10:47PM

FakePie wrote: »

Yes!!

Of course.

That's the other unacknowledged aspect.

Attitude doesn't change from one to the next, or one gender to the next.

BUT - ones attitude, should not be defined by, how they see men - if they are male.

If SHOULD be defined, by how they relate to, the opposite gender.

I guess cause - perhaps the most profound means by which men judge and assess one another is, ultimately how they feel another man copes with, responds to, and has dealings with - WOMEN.

Some of the best friends I've ever had - our whole friendship was based on chasing women together.

We totally got on cause - we viewed each other as cool dudes with women, and admired that quality in each other.

In fact - since the age of about 13 - the only friendships I've had have been based on that.

So yes - ones attitude will be universal - just as it is toward women, it will be toward other men.

I'd say your chat up lines are legendary.

And when were you thirteen? Three years ago? Or less?

Now, time for supper.

FCIM · 20-03-2018 11:02PM

FakePie wrote: »

Yes!!

Of course.

That's the other unacknowledged aspect.

Attitude doesn't change from one to the next, or one gender to the next.

BUT - ones attitude, should not be defined by, how they see men - if they are male.

If SHOULD be defined, by how they relate to, the opposite gender.

I guess cause - perhaps the most profound means by which men judge and assess one another is, ultimately how they feel another man copes with, responds to, and has dealings with - WOMEN.

Some of the best friends I've ever had - our whole friendship was based on chasing women together.

We totally got on cause - we viewed each other as cool dudes with women, and admired that quality in each other.

In fact - since the age of about 13 - the only friendships I've had have been based on that.

So yes - ones attitude will be universal - just as it is toward women, it will be toward other men.

I didn't mean quite like that, not that I'm trying to be smart or getting at you. I just meant the only difference in the way I view women is no different to the way I view men. If someone is nice, I think they're nice regardless of whether they're male or female. If I think someone is a d!ckhead, then I think they're a d!ckhead regardless of whether they're male or female. The only significant difference is I would have sex with (some) females but I wouldn't with males. As I'm happily married, even that difference is virtually non-existant (in that I will have sex with my wife so it exists but not with any other woman so it has no bearing on how I relate to them). I might be slightly cruder among men but then that depends on the men and I have been known to be crude around women who I knew to have been OK with that. I might talk about sport more with men but again that depends on the interests of the other men I'm with and I regularly discuss sport with women I know to be interested. So basically, my attitude is the same whoever I'm with.

FakePie · 20-03-2018 11:07PM

John Eager Hearse wrote: »

FakePie wrote: »

Yes!!

Of course.

That's the other unacknowledged aspect.

Attitude doesn't change from one to the next, or one gender to the next.

BUT - ones attitude, should not be defined by, how they see men - if they are male.

If SHOULD be defined, by how they relate to, the opposite gender.

I guess cause - perhaps the most profound means by which men judge and assess one another is, ultimately how they feel another man copes with, responds to, and has dealings with - WOMEN.

Some of the best friends I've ever had - our whole friendship was based on chasing women together.

We totally got on cause - we viewed each other as cool dudes with women, and admired that quality in each other.

In fact - since the age of about 13 - the only friendships I've had have been based on that.

So yes - ones attitude will be universal - just as it is toward women, it will be toward other men.

I'd say your chat up lines are legendary.

And when were you thirteen? Three years ago? Or less?

Now, time for supper.

My chat up lines?

lol - certainly not what you'd expect.

"Hey there - would you like, ummmm - you know....."

I kid you not - it has worked for me.

But of course it's not the dialogue, as much as - the mood.

It's the mood that I create that..... well - let's not get too depraved.

Trying to think of other conversation starters I've used.

"Hey - where you going at!!?"

"Do you have a boyfriend?"

"Oh - your birthday is it?"

And one of my personal favourites:

"Hey - would totally need to hook up" - lol - I remember when I used that one.

We hooked up.

Avatar MIA · 20-03-2018 11:09PM

FakePie wrote: »

"Hey - would totally need to hook up" - lol - I remember when I used that one.

We hooked up.

Sorry, are you describing your daydreams, actual dreams or full blown psychosis ?

You know, for context, loike.

20-03-2018 11:12PM

This part is really funny:

FakePie wrote: »

My chat up lines?

lol - certainly not what you'd expect.

"Hey there - would you like, ummmm - you know....."

I kid you not - it has worked for me.

But of course it's not the dialogue, as much as - the mood.

It's the mood that I create that..... well - let's not get too depraved.

Trying to think of other conversation starters I've used.

"Hey - where you going at!!?"

"Do you have a boyfriend?"

"Oh - your birthday is it?"

But this is where it becomes hilarious!

And one of my personal favourites:

"Hey - would totally need to hook up" - lol - I remember when I used that one.

We hooked up.

James Bond, eat your heart out.

FakePie · 20-03-2018 11:25PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

FakePie wrote: »

"Hey - would totally need to hook up" - lol - I remember when I used that one.

We hooked up.

Sorry, are you describing your daydreams, actual dreams or full blown psychosis ?

You know, for context, loike.

In doubt, is it?

Yeah I get that.
Guys have been known to spin tales, on the internet no less.

I didn't want to post this cause - then you guys might really think I'm either just spoofing, or trying to get a rise out of ya'll.

Let me give a little back detail.

I was hitting on all these chicks, and the security guard obviously wasn't digging my mojo cause, he basically shoved me and told me to move it along.

So - I see the chick in question, and I give it, "hey - we totally need to hook up".

She looked up and me, being a least a foot smaller - I absolutely kid you not - and with those beautiful doe eyes she gave it:

"I'm seventeen".

I don't quite recall how I responded but, it's possible I may have uttered, "perfeeeeect".
Don't quote me on that though.

Anyways, we moved onto the dance floor, and she started grinding her ass into my hip region.
I recall groping her cause - she has this big ass awkward handbag on her arm - like some clumsy 17 year old that had gotten into a nightclub by pure chance and was ill prepared for the experience.

Anyways, she got hot pretty quick, with my tongue in her ear - so she turns about and we start snogging.

She basically had on - what you call them - hot pants?
About enough material below her waist region, to cover the palm of your hand, and not much more.
So I'm really getting a good grope on her.

So I've had my fill of snogging and groping, it's time to get her home.
Now, the deal had not been sealed yet but - we're moving off the dance floor - and as we are, that same security guard that shoved me earlier all oafish like - he's stood there, with this look on his face that said - "FML" - I absolutely kid you not, on the souls of the faithfully departed, his eyes were watered up.
Like some of his deepest rooted beliefs had just been undeniably and unquestionably contradicted, flat out.

Not crying but - you know what it's like, either you're stricken with surprise or, really knocked back on your heels or what, whatever it is.

But his eyes were watering.

lol.
Yeah - she was a sweet girl.....

Sweet ass!!

professore · 20-03-2018 11:26PM

FakePie wrote: »

Yes!!

Of course.

That's the other unacknowledged aspect.

Attitude doesn't change from one to the next, or one gender to the next.

BUT - ones attitude, should not be defined by, how they see men - if they are male.

If SHOULD be defined, by how they relate to, the opposite gender.

I guess cause - perhaps the most profound means by which men judge and assess one another is, ultimately how they feel another man copes with, responds to, and has dealings with - WOMEN.

Some of the best friends I've ever had - our whole friendship was based on chasing women together.

We totally got on cause - we viewed each other as cool dudes with women, and admired that quality in each other.

In fact - since the age of about 13 - the only friendships I've had have been based on that.

So yes - ones attitude will be universal - just as it is toward women, it will be toward other men.

You sound like a dick. Cool dudes with women - wtf??

It's very sad that all your friendships with men are solely based on chasing women. You are losing out big time. I value my friendships with other men above 99% of relationships I've had with women.

How would you define your attitude toward women?

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