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Room to Improve.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,718 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    LirW wrote: »
    It just baffles me how people spend their time and energy thinking about other's people clothes, hair, tattoos, cars etc. Wouldn't really come to my mind. Whatever floats her boat I guess.

    I spent my time watching the show, same as you? The energy involved was the same as if she hadn't irritated me, probably less energy than the laugh from watching 'ma' the previous week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,367 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    harr wrote: »
    Was speaking to a builder friend this morning and he is still scratching his head at where that extension cost €180,00 ...
    The asbestos should have spotted way earlier and the drama surrounding the brick was just stupid and probably played up for the drama factor.
    Didn’t seem like good value for money at all...

    My entire house was built for 180 k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    LirW wrote: »
    It just baffles me how people spend their time and energy thinking about other's people clothes, hair, tattoos, cars etc. Wouldn't really come to my mind. Whatever floats her boat I guess.

    Hasn't she inspired you to return to a particular look?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Addle wrote: »
    Hasn't she inspired you to return to a particular look?

    Doesn't have anything to do with it, I wouldn't be bothered saying anything about anyone else's look simply because it has no impact on my life in any way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


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    Yes i do and i am struggling to see how it can cost 180k for a bolt on job unless the figures are beefed up for tv , the 30k in extras is fantasy .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭Nermal


    What kid doesn't want a five foot tall portrait of Cruella de Vil in the garden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    LirW wrote: »
    Doesn't have anything to do with it, I wouldn't be bothered saying anything about anyone else's look simply because it has no impact on my life in any way.

    Have you defended any of the other series participants against comments, of is it just the one who shares your style?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,825 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    jvan wrote: »
    Also when they had the disagreement about the 20k of extras the announcer said they were 2 months into the project, seems the 7 weeks and 4 days is a bit off the mark.

    The 7 weeks and 4 days was nett of stoppages (the site was closed for a period) and Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Nermal wrote: »
    What kid doesn't want a five foot tall portrait of Cruella de Vil in the garden?


    Because its just wrong......

    ...now Lara Croft......mmmmmmmmmmmmmm:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    LirW wrote: »
    Doesn't have anything to do with it, I wouldn't be bothered saying anything about anyone else's look simply because it has no impact on my life in any way.

    Do you never comment or remark on anyone on TV or a passer by or a neighbour ? Its human nature to remark on others dress or suit or hair or shoes !
    I liked her hair by the way !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    No, but I've also defended people that didn't suit into my scheme of things.
    Jesus, like I'm in court. I watch the show for the outcome, not particularly for the people, mainly because I worked in the field of renovation for a few years.
    Now all of you calm down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


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  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But quite apart from the extension, there was probably rewiring of the existing house, insulation, new windows, new boiler etc.

    I live in drogheda and I recently (in the last 9 months) put an extension onto my house.

    I was very budget conscious and built it with that in mind. Cavity block, flat roof, etc to save on cash (though i didn't do anything that'd hamper living quality and researched everything 10 times over before making any decisions).

    ... Anyway...

    I built an extension to the rear (30ft x 10ft) and side (5ft x 24ft). I built it, furnished it and made it livable, to the tune of €46,000.

    I destroyed my back garden in the process, so to lay new paving, rebuild a garden wall i knocked, etc. i'll be down about €50,000 overall I'd say.

    My extension to the rear was an addition to the kitchen, and to the side was a bathroom (toilet/sink/shower) and utility room (plumbed for a washing machine).


    The 50k includes a kitchen, the shower/toilet, new doors hung, sofa, TV, lights, floor, paint, radiators, new fuse box to take the power of the extension, new fusebox to replace the old one, too (so two new fuse boxes), new boiler etc. and also granite paving (that i havent paid for yet, but will still be within the 50k).

    The rest of my house didn't really have anything done, though. The arleady-existing kitchen had some re-wiring, but not a complete overhaul. I should also point out that I have yet to do skirting/architrave. I'd budget another grand for that, as it will have to be done, too).

    I'm very much 'into' Dermot's styling (my walls are white, kitchen is white with no handles, wide sliding door, etc. and ironically, i'd never seen Room to Improve before i decorated :pac: we have very similar taste!).

    Now, I realise if Dermot was working on my job, he'd have bigger windows, a butterfly roof, bare concrete wall, etc. that would push the price up. Then I'm also conscious that labour costs within Dublin are pricier than Drogheda, but if I spent only €50k then I find it curious that a smaller extension (even factoring in 1k for asbestos removal) can come in at over three times the price..?


    And none of the other rooms in the house in this episode seem to have gotten a mention. We know the house was not rewired, because all the ceilings would most likely have had to come down to get at existing wiring, and there's no way they'd do that and not film it and make a few scenes out of it.

    It seems like a pretty straight forward €180,000 for a simple enough extension. I wonder how much the mural cost.



    EDIT: I'd say a good chunk of their budget went on replacing the windows in the house. Windows are megabucks. A better breakdown of costs at the end of each episode would be a great addition to the show.


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But you don't have to like her!

    The personal comments are ridiculous here, why does it bother people what way she does her hair/ if she is a hipster?


    As is always mentioned in this thread, the show is as much about the people as the house. Many people would argue that she had 'room to improve'. :P


    I didn't mind her too much myself, to be honest. She seemed like she was trying a bit hard, but then when there's a chap in the room pointing a camera at you, you're bound to feel a little out of place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,684 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    They tendered the old house work at 100000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    LirW wrote: »
    No, but I've also defended people that didn't suit into my scheme of things.
    Jesus, like I'm in court. I watch the show for the outcome, not particularly for the people, mainly because I worked in the field of renovation for a few years.
    Now all of you calm down.

    We were all calm until you lectured us !!! Relax its only a TV show !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭prunudo


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    The 7 weeks and 4 days was nett of stoppages (the site was closed for a period) and Christmas.

    When the announcer said it it was before the builder closed the site. Maybe it was an oversight in the script vs editing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,812 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I've worked on a planning exempt extension (less than 40 sqm) that cost in excess of 180k with no works to existing.
    Costs go through the roof when you get into non standard structures,detailing and finishes. I didn't see much of last nights show but tinted bricks does not sound like a great idea to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    mickdw wrote: »
    I've worked on a planning exempt extension (less than 40 sqm) that cost in excess of 180k with no works to existing.
    Costs go through the roof when you get into non standard structures,detailing and finishes.

    I'm sure you have. I have seen people charged a fiver for a can of Coke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,825 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    jvan wrote: »
    When the announcer said it it was before the builder closed the site. Maybe it was an oversight in the script vs editing.
    The reference I heard to 7 weeks 4 days was at the very end at the wrap party - builder said it was actual working time so didn't count the site closure or Christmas.

    Anyway, doesn't really matter. He was still very efficient - maybe a bit too efficient for his own (and certainly his clients') good!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,782 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


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    Aluminium windows are probably the cheapest type of windows so how are they bumping up on the original figure (which I think is inflated btw)

    So at €1500/SqM do you think the extension was €120SqM? Looks be less than half that in reality.

    Also what hardwood doors are you referring to, because it looks like they added very little doors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    For the price they paid for a bog standard semi in a bog standard suburb of Dublin + renovations they could probably have bought a beautiful house with decent gardens and all work done nearby.

    This one maybe.....

    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/260-howth-road-killester-dublin-5-d05-dd74/4216441

    But Topaz across the road is probably too edgy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    For the price they paid for a bog standard semi in a bog standard suburb of Dublin + renovations they could probably have bought a beautiful house with decent gardens and all work done nearby.

    This one maybe.....

    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/260-howth-road-killester-dublin-5-d05-dd74/4216441

    That's what I said yesterday, they paid some serious money for that house. Tbf the plot isn't small.
    Anyway I think if you're thinking of living there long term it's worth it spending that money to get the place to a standard that you feel home in it (given you have the money).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    For the price they paid for a bog standard semi in a bog standard suburb of Dublin + renovations they could probably have bought a beautiful house with decent gardens and all work done nearby.

    This one maybe.....

    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/260-howth-road-killester-dublin-5-d05-dd74/4216441

    But Topaz across the road is probably too edgy!

    At least that one has 4 bedrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,781 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    If that's the case, it sounds like a big stretch for how the scheme would be intended. I'm wondering why the State would want to top up a €200k investment? Maybe they should have just built a smaller house and gotten their A3 rating with a small house from their own resources. Or maybe the scheme rules should look beyond the legal owner to see who really benefits?

    I'm not really sure what the gripe is. They could easily have spend 200k without really making the house significantly more energy efficient. If 200k was the extent of someone's budget and they needed to increase the footprint etc, should they be excluded from energy efficiency grants to go above and beyond the level of works they would have to get that significant level of energu performance upgrades?

    What is the cut off for applying for a grant to upgrade energy efficiency?

    Genuine question because there seems to be this idea that because they manager to get together a relatively big pot of money - increased because of the additional works to achieve A rating - that they should be excluded from a scheme to incentivise upgrades to A3. How would such an exclusion work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭threetrees


    Dermot based the new extension right on the footprint of the old one and the sheds. He used the same line as the original wall. The plot of land has a huge garden to the front and side so I can't understand how he didn't design the extension using that part and give a bigger back garden. The garden would have been south east facing too. It may have been a planning issue, but they are applying for retention now anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Addle


    Probably wouldn't get planning to extend to the front in a housing estate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Reati


    threetrees wrote: »
    . It may have been a planning issue, but they are applying for retention now anyway!

    For the build on the show or something else?


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