Fine Universities that are denying free speech.

Havockk wrote: »

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Absolutist tosh. It's a pure fantasy that this can be achieved. Why? Because there is a line in the sand that some people are just not willing to accept. Not to mention most people want to live in a civilised society, and in a civilised society there is no room for racism in the same way there is no room for pro-paedophilia.

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""  there is no room for racism  "" .

Given what you said in your words there- as myself & other posters pointed out to you some people consider different things as " racism " as I cited some younger people see ( Friends ) as " racist " .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/friends-problematic-netflix-viewers/

Because some people see it as " racist " based on your own very words " ""  there is no room for racism  "" what should be done about ( Friends ) or what should be done in your opinion  when the accusation of " racism " is loosely thrown at someone or at something ?

Two points:
Firstly censorship refers to the government not "anyone anywhere who calls me a name". If some student newspaper calls your underpants racist then just laugh or offer a rebuttal. A lot of people seem to think that freedom of speech means they can say whatever they want with no consequences or replies (shouted down").

Also intent is a large part of the law, it's what courts judge on a lot of the time. This is taken into account regarding hate speech.

Havockk wrote: »

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

""  there is no room for racism  "" .

Given what you said in your words there- as myself & other posters pointed out to you some people consider different things as " racism " as I cited some younger people see ( Friends ) as " racist " .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/friends-problematic-netflix-viewers/

Because some people see it as " racist " based on your own very words " ""  there is no room for racism  "" what should be done about ( Friends ) or what should be done in your opinion  when the accusation of " racism " is loosely thrown at someone or at something ?

So Kyle Smith of the national review is the baseline for the definition of racism?

Are you just not reading my posts, I#m not sure how much plainer I could have made it. I literally spelled it out for you.

Im reading all posts-  the article he wrote was about younger people,s reaction to ( Friends ) not his own personal opinion,, some younger people or millennials I should say said ( Friends ) was " racist " among other things, whereas older people don,t see what the fuss is about .

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/friends-netflix-sexist-racist-transphobic-problematic-millenials-watch-a8154626.html

Permabear wrote: »

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You are still not listening to what myself and indeed others are now saying. We are saying it's NOT subjective. If some professors or campuses are making stupid rules, that's a completely different issue. It certainly does not change what racism is, nor does it dilute it.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I always thought racism was a fairly simple concept. Don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour or nationality. No point being side-tracked with irrelevant and labyrinthine 'definitions'.

At one time " racism " was about just that discriminating on the basis of skin colour- but some people choose to apply the label of " racism " to other stuff so its a label that keeps expanding ,, as it keeps expanding " its a subjective term.

( Exhibit A )

People protesting against deportations on the basis that deportations are " racism " .



( Exhibit B )

Some political parties believe that controlling immigration is somehow " racism " .



( Exhibit C ) 

Some people believe a ban on ritual slaughter of animals is " racist ".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11379157/Banning-ritual-slaughter-would-be-a-victory-for-racists.html

( Exhibit D )

Some people believe have an opposing view to sharia law is " racism ",, as in the Uk a group called ( Gays against sharia ) were met with a counter protest by a group called ( stand up racism )

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/anti-sharia-counter-anti-racism-demos-planned/

Havockk wrote: »

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

At one time " racism " was about just that discriminating on the basis of skin colour- but some people choose to apply the label of " racism " to other stuff so its a label that keeps expanding ,, as it keeps expanding " its a subjective term.

( Exhibit A )

People protesting against deportations on the basis that deportations are " racism " .



( Exhibit B )

Some political parties believe that controlling immigration is somehow " racism " .



( Exhibit C ) 

Some people believe a ban on ritual slaughter of animals is " racist ".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11379157/Banning-ritual-slaughter-would-be-a-victory-for-racists.html

( Exhibit D )

Some people believe have an opposing view to sharia law is racism,, as in the Uk a group called ( Gays against sharia ) were met with a counter protest by a group called ( stand up racism )

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/anti-sharia-counter-anti-racism-demos-planned/

You are just saying the same thing over and over again.

Im providing examples of what some other people consider to be " racism " showing how its become a subjective term- when people different people class different things as " racism " .

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

Im providing examples of what some other people consider to be " racism " showing how its become a subjective term- when people different people class different things as " racism " .

Which has already been addressed.

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

At one time " racism " was about just that discriminating on the basis of skin colour- but some people choose to apply the label of " racism " to other stuff so its a label that keeps expanding ,, as it keeps expanding " its a subjective term.

( Exhibit A )

People protesting against deportations on the basis that deportations are " racism " .



( Exhibit B )

Some political parties believe that controlling immigration is somehow " racism " .



( Exhibit C ) 

Some people believe a ban on ritual slaughter of animals is " racist ".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11379157/Banning-ritual-slaughter-would-be-a-victory-for-racists.html

( Exhibit D )

Some people believe have an opposing view to sharia law is " racism ",, as in the Uk a group called ( Gays against sharia ) were met with a counter protest by a group called ( stand up racism )

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/anti-sharia-counter-anti-racism-demos-planned/

So what? Some people believe the Earth is flat. Vote for people you think will apply the laws that you agree with. If some outliers want to jump up and down about whatever, then just let them off and let the law take care of them. Just keep trying to treat people fairly regardless of skin colour and nationality. It really isn't complicated.

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

"" Different people think differently  ""

Thank you so much- you prove my point,, "" Different people think differently  "" proves what people consider to be " racism " is subjective . 

Everything we hear is an opinion not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective not the truth. Marcus Aurelius

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

Im saying very clearly its become a subjective term as people consider different things to be " racism " once again take the ( Gays against sharia ) group in their eyes they re not doing anything wrong- but some people consider their viewpoint to be " racism " & counter protest them.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/anti-sharia-counter-anti-racism-demos-planned/

So when one groups consider something to be " racism " & the other opposing group doesn,t consider something as "racism " it shows its become a subjective term- Btw what,s your personal take by that I mean would you consider ( gays against sharia ) to be " racist " or would you disagree with the label of " racist " being applied to them ?

So you would rather let morons dictate what "racism" is.

Pardon me, but that's not too bright.

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

Given that you called them " morons " I can only assume that you don,t agree with them labelling ( Gays against sharia ) as " racist " ,, but given that you disagree with them proves my point about subjectivity - they Interpret ( Gays against sharia ) to be " racist " you disagree with their Interpretation calling them " morons " thus proving " racism " has become a subjective term when people Interpret different things to be " racism " . 

This is just twaddle. And it cheapens a very serious topic, the topic of Racism. I find it disingenuous in the extreme, it's known tactic of befuddlement to obfuscate the issues at hand.

20Cent wrote: »

And why are you doing that?
Different people think differently so what?

Exactly, so your definition on what racism is, will be different to someone else's definition, therefore the term is highly subjective.

markodaly wrote: »

Exactly, so your definition on what racism is, will be different to someone else's definition, therefore the term is highly subjective.

Humans have sent man to the moon. Defining racism is within our grasp. What someone on twitter says doesn't really matter it's how the courts view it.

markodaly wrote: »

Next up, curing world hunger and disease....
All by a stroke of a pen.

Disease is a difficult one, but world hunger would be the easiest problem in the world to fix. All it would take would be the will.